Why do atheists insist that religion is evil?

Why do atheists insist that religion is evil?

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what the fuck else are they going to do?

ISIS
Al Qaeda
The KKK
SJW's
The Crusades

Need I say more?

Islam is evil, Ahmed.

Because they aren't communist who worship state power and the idea of forced collectivism

Most objective athiests would prefer to live in a western, Christian society as its the safest for non believers

Secular states become socialist dumps

>crusades

Europe should he been more aggressive and just taken care of Islam imo

The crusades were Europeans way of defending themselves from caliphate rule

Under caliphate rule you would be forced into Islam buddy

I'm an atheist and I've never claimed this. In fact, I think religion can be a great thing that can really help people. The radicals of a religion are a minority for the most part. I truly believe ISIS is just a bunch of violent thugs using religion as an excuse to do whatever they want rather than they actually believe Allah would want them to be killing people and raping women. They aren't Muslims, they're thugs.

Reminder that edgy athiests who trash Christianity always defend Islam and communism (worship of state)

Have them go to Tehran and mock Islam and see how long they remain alive

Me too mate, just ignore shitposters.

Religion is evil.
Faith, is not.

The difference, is that "religion" is always institutionalized, and then used to manipulate people into doing stuff, which they wouldn't do otherwise.

>Take in those refugees
>Pay silver or burn in hell
>Blow up the infidels
>Scam the goyim
>Fight for your faith

Religion, always turns into a tool, and one that is inherently evil at that.

So how do you explain Islamic states that practice sharia law?

It's millions of people in these countries supporting this structure?

Low tier bait.
Only the fourth crusade was a mistake.

The KKK is not a religious institution.

Lazy generalization to put all in same category

Christianity is objectively better than Islam

Look at Christian countries vs Islamic countries

I'm an atheist (well, technically an agnostic). I don't think that religion is evil. I just don't believe in it. That's all.

Not really, at least at that time. Christian and Jews were tolerated , they had to pay a special tax though.

They also never mock Judaism.

They were kid napped and sold into slavery and forced to be subjugated under caliphate law


They were not surroinding the gates of fucking Vienna to say hello

pro tip
if you describe yourself as 'technically agnostic' that means you're an atheist
The only thing required to be an atheist is lack of an affirmative belief in a god or gods, not disbelief

>it´s another they aren´t real muslims you bigot white racists episode.

>im a le atheist
>Christians are bad XD
>Islam is okay tho
>I believe the state should run our lives because I feel that way
>people who disagree with my subjective moral views should be locked in the cage by the all powerful state
>no such thing as gender
>no such thing as race
>I'm a le atheist

>I truly believe ISIS is just a bunch of violent thugs using religion as an excuse to do whatever they want rather than they actually believe Allah would want them to be killing people and raping women. They aren't Muslims, they're thugs.
But they are muslims. They're following the quran more closely than any other society, which is the problem.
It demonstrates how toxic religion can really be.
Anything that religion offers can be offered with secular humanism. This also has an added benefit, being that you dont have to lie to people to get them to do good things, and you teach them how to think about morality, instead of simply whats 'right and wrong'

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Sharia Law is just as bad. It's used as a way to keep the population docile and fearful so the people in power can do whatever they want. I cannot truly believe they think what they are doing is for a religious reason. Its's barbaric and disgusting.

Yup. But you could be using that energy to do something else. It's like those Muslims that prey 5 times a day. It is just to pacify them and stop them being so rapey because they don't have any creative outlets at their stage of development and engagement. You could probably say that wanking is a stress reliever. Wow, Great! It's why we call people wankers as an insult here.

>it demonstrates how toxic american interventionism and political disenfranchisement can be
fix'd

it's a phase. when people grow up they realize others can have different beliefs and it's fine.

That's my point

Objectively speaking, living in a Christian society, you have infinitely more rights as a Christian Lennon Christian than anyone who lives in a Muslim country, Muslim not

Atheist have more freedom in Christian countries than Muslims have in muslim countries

p.s. islam isn't a religion but a militaristic movement with some religious elements that should be annihilated.

Well you know how the leftists say:
"Islam hat nichts mit dem Islam zu tun".

ask the templars and children crusaders

Judaism is not nearly as prevalent in america, where most of the population is christian.
Any atheist who trashes Christianity but defends Islam is a cuck and deserves to be shipped off to a muslim governed country to cleanse them of their cognitive dissonance.
Everything necessary for radicalizing exists in the quran.
Its not the fault of american intervention, but it is a contributing factor.
Muslims were chopping eachothers heads off and throwing gays off buildings long before america got involved.
Islam is a religion. Its also incompatible with any other society, according to its own texts.
If they cant convert you, they will kill you. They're literal Necromongers, only they get all of their weapons from america

We shouldn't be lying to ourselves to feel better about being a rock floating in the terrible vast horror of the cosmos

>mfw people try to pull this shit irl

Christfags are just as culturally dangerous as SJWs and possibly even moreso as SJWs will use religion for their banner. Back in my day it was Christianity. The first feminist group was comprised of christfags who were proud to be slaves for jesus. These days it is Islam. But the connecting factor is YHVH.

You don't think that Christian churches and religious institutions have been subverted when that kind of shit happens?
Also SJWs are by large godless heathens

because organized religion is just a control system. spirituality however is ok, as it's an individual thing you mostly do on your own.

Because like any other belief structure practiced with the lack of evidence they spout garbage out of their mouths.

Here is the thing, atheists have a leg up against other religions in a debate because they can argue the point that the other side doesn't have a shred of evidence to back up their claim. The problem is that since they have that against each religion individually, it makes the right as a whole. This is wrong of course. An atheist can make the claim that "you can't prove god exists" to a christian, but any religion at the same time can argue that an atheist "can't prove that no deities exist".

The smart atheist would just say "You are right, I dont know. Lets leave it that that" and go on about his fucking life and be happy. The fedora wearing shit lard will jump up and down screaming about his intelligence and euphoria.

But they're ideologues, which makes them no different, in principal, from religious people. Instead of a deity, they worship self-contradicting principals.
So, in some ways they're even worse.

>The smart atheist would just say "You are right, I dont know. Lets leave it that that" and go on about his fucking life and be happy.
then he's agnostic not atheist

see

How do you think they allow themselves to be subverted? I understand why you would think that SJWs are atheist, but their whole playbook of divide and conquer come straight from the bible.

>government: pay taxes or I'll fucking kill you and rape your wife
>other muslims: you fucking heretics. I don't employ you nor sell stuff to the likes of you
>being tolerated

This is the type of shit that makes me be real careful when identifying myself as an atheist in conversations.
You and I are on the same page

You do know that whole euphoria meme was started by a christfag, right?

An outzpoken minority are not the majority. You will find that once you get out and socialize, most atheist think like Sup Forums

They need to seek forgiveness, suggest to them to seek sacrament of reconciliation or Their souls will be not make into the gates of heaven

they don't like their dads.

my cousin is atheist, he is acting like dawkins gave him a holy mission of atheism. he is always talking about that but he is a lazy cunt and never read even books, just showing pictures from stupid atheist facebook pages.
also one of my close friends is also an atheist but he doesn't even mention it. i send him nasheed videos and he sends satanic black metal videos and all we laugh.

this isn't about religion, this is about mentality.
some people is chill and some people always wanna attention.

For all the posting ive done i havent read the OP pic yet.
My thoughts on it: Its easy to not be stressed out when you believe there's a mystical sky-daddy thats looking out for you and will fix all of your problems one day; with a thought process like that its easy to not be stressed out by reality.

Most religions are tolerable. Islam sucks dick though.

why don't Sup Forums people convert to gnosticism knowing this world is evil and fucked up?

what the fuck i LOVE religion now?!?!?!?!?!?

because

Some atheists make the mistake of thinking
YO I TOOK THE REDPILL DAWG, ALL RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE NUTS ATHEISM FUCK YEAH
When weak-minded people become atheists they tend to treat their atheism like an ideology
As you said, its about mentality.
gnosticism is still atheism

i wish i knew how it felt to be the guy who started this meme

Sup Forums has never been a christian board. It has always been majority atheist.

Because they hate any kind of authoritative figure that condemns their cummies.

If you don't have a shred of evidence to back up your claim, you should expect ridicule. This is how we combat the spread of misinformation and the abuse of the weak-minded. It's not ok to just let religious leaders have the advantage of legions of indoctrinated. You aren't red-pilled if you aren't fighting religion on whatever level your influence allows.

>worship
nope

We don't (yeah, the grant council of atheists appointed me their representative)
It's just, well, not true.

But it might be necessary. I'm actually considering going to church, because I think a christian framework is good for the country, particularly when you consider some of the alternatives.

>implying heathen opinions matter

dumb people are less stressed
what a shocker

People who pray get to pretend they did something without actually doing anything.

I wouldn't be surprised if they had less stress since they believe someone else is going to solve their problems for them.

The only reason i, as an atheist, am not attacking christian endeavors at the moment is because they're currently being turned against the establishment and PC culture.
SJWs and PC culture are a much bigger threat than religious ideologues, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so.
Being that the majority of americans are christian, this is a good thing.

It's easy. Imagine yourself sitting in the JIDF headquarters with your feet propped on the desk once you realize that you don't have to do any work. You could just let proto-judaism do the work for you. Once Sup Forums is overrun with christfaggotry, Sup Forums ceases to be a threat. Sup Forums used to always be right, now it's slowly going downhill as any word that exits a christfag's mouth ceases to be truth on political matters.

>SJW's

lol

the fact that you have to reach *this* *far* tells us all we need to know.

SJWs are not a religious movement; in fact, they run contrary to pretty much every religion. it's pure atheism - or, rather, the fruits thereof.

also, as others have said, the Crusades were defensive, and the KKK is hardly "religious."

Christianity is fine not because of being more morally right or having better doctrines but because its domesticated.

Christianity has had its balls cut off. For the vast majority of the western world, the average middle aged family in your lower-middle class neighbourhood church is just a way of keeping in touch with friends and other locals and getting some social interaction and family time down.

Islam is still stuck in the fire and brimstone cycle. It needs to be neutered as well, the muslims on our side of the fence need to grow fat and complacent and eradicate that old-time religious zeal and replace it with a hazy, domestic calm.

Religion is ultimately destined to become a sort of country-club.

God doesn't just magically solve problems, you actually have to solve them yourself with his guidance.

Gnosticism is christianity. Where did you get the idea that it was atheism?>>Hey guys, you should totally trust the government.
>>>No evidence.

but gnosticists believe in god's existence.
they just think yhwh is a meanie.

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Well said
Its not 'pure atheism', whatever that means. Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity, nothing more. SJWs are ideologues.
SJWs are the consequence of identity culture gone awry. Its not really fair to contribute their existence to atheism.
My bad. I read it and thought agnosticism for some reason.

You think they're really atheists? Sure they get to kill and rape and I guess that could be 'fun'. And the hours they spend obsessing over sharia details, and doing every damn thing according to the book, perhaps that's just really deep method acting. But the blowing themselves up by the hundred, isn't that just taking it a tiny bit far? You think unbelieving thugs would do that? That is delusional.

On 'moderate' islam, do you know the percentages of British and French muslims who sympathised with the Charlie Hebdo killers? Or who believe death is the correct punishment for apostasy?

>telling atheists god doesn't magically solve problems and you have to solve them yourself

We know

>Islam is still stuck in the fire and brimstone cycle. It needs to be neutered as well, the muslims on our side of the fence need to grow fat and complacent and eradicate that old-time religious zeal and replace it with a hazy, domestic calm.

said the Aussie who never, ever cracked open a Koran.

Threats of Hell, chopping off of limbs, enslavement, etc. occupy damned near every page of it. there's just no such thing as"domesticated" Islam.

>When weak-minded people become atheists they tend to treat their atheism like an ideology
absolutely this

>Why do atheists insist that religion is evil?

Because it is.

Because of the mess they often make, aswell as the detraction to rational discussions they usually are.
I mean discussions with them usually end up in circular reasoning, fallacy and factual inaccuracy, if you're lucky enough to not encounter the ones literally contradicting themselves without end before bursting into tantrum.

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Ive looked into the numbers as well.
A shocking number of muslims believe in a lot of serious punishments advocated by the quran., but they consider themselves 'moderate'.
Many 'moderate' muslims think they should be governed by sharia law before the law of the land they live in.

>Gnosticism is christianity. Where did you get the idea that it was atheism?

Gnosticism isn't atheism; I agree with you, there. but it sure ain't Christianity.

Much of Paul's NT writings were very much a condemnation of gnosticism ("knowledge, falsely so-called" 1Tim6:20)

Not only religion but all sorts of cultist behaviours, even Atheism+

this is actually what atheists think constitutes an argument. they merely re-assert their beliefs, and declare victory.

Religion isn't evil. It is simply a tool, like GMOs or guns. The user decides to use it for good or evil. Atheist just have no respect whatsoever for people who allow a tool for control of human behaviour to be used on them.

I don't have a problem with the KKK. At least they never really killed anyone unlike the mountains of christian terrorists.

SJWs typically speak about organized religion, god, or sometimes spiritual terms. Why do you think that atheists were lumped in with gamers, mras, and misogynists during this gamergate shit?

Atheistic SJWs exist, but they usually don't use any stance many atheists agree with. Either that or they hate the fact thst they don't believe in a god? Which doesn't make much sense.

You can be a christian and disagree with christian teachings. Hell, that's actually why so many different sects exist. Gnostics believe that Christ is the saviour whom died for our sins which by definition, makes them christians.

>>No evidence to the contrary.

>projection

>The KKK Dindu Nuffin

>Why do atheists insist that religion is evil?
They don't. Religious institutions are usually evil, you should be able to see that even as a Christian.

>I don't have a problem with the KKK. At least they never really killed anyone unlike the mountains of christian terrorists.

is this a joke, or are you really this edgy?

what "mountains of Christian terrorists" are you talking about??

>SJWs typically speak about organized religion, god, or sometimes spiritual terms. Why do you think that atheists were lumped in with gamers, mras, and misogynists during this gamergate shit?

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and I doubt anyone else has, either.

>Atheistic SJWs exist, but they usually don't use any stance many atheists agree with. Either that or they hate the fact thst they don't believe in a god? Which doesn't make much sense.

Neither does your statement here, for that matter.

>You can be a christian and disagree with christian teachings.

sure, Christians have all sorts of disagreements between each other - but they don't disagree on the basics. "In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity," as the saying goes.

>Gnostics believe that Christ is the saviour whom died for our sins which by definition, makes them christians.

not really, as they deny His humanity.

The KKK never officially took responsibility for any killings.

because ghosts don't exist you fucking faggot

Face it: we ALL know those two had it coming. Look around you.

lol no kidding

I wish i was dumb enough to convince myself of religion

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Religion is good for instilling virtues in society but prayer and meditation that aren't focused on self improvement are bullshit.
The kgb even tried to propagate this kind of behaviour in American society since someone who is praying for a higher power to solve thier problems isn't actually solving any problems.

Christian terrorists have been active in Africa, Canada, Ireland, and America for almost a century.

My statement makes sense. Read it again and this time actually read it.

They do so disagree on essentials. Some christians use the Nicene trinity others don't. Some believe that Christ was divine, others don't. Some believe that God's power is absolute, others don't, need I go on?

Gnostics believe that Jesus was God made flesh. What part of that seems unchristian to you?

there are PLENTY of people with genius-level IQs that believe in God.

The fact that you would rather deny that does not make the fact that it's true go away.

ditto on God Himself.

Yeah. Issac Newton was a genius, but he also stuck needles in his eyes and believed in alchemy which makes him an idiot. Intelligence isn't a spectrum. There are different forms of intelligence.

>Christian terrorists have been active in Africa, Canada, Ireland, and America for almost a century.

name some groups. let me start you off:

Ireland: the IRA - a group whose aims are NOT AT ALL religious, but freedom from England. They scarcely even bother to co-opt Catholicism, and when they do, it's merely incidental to the nation's history. their aims ARE NOT religious, and anyone who says otherwise is just being intentionally obtuse.

Africa - I think there's some group calling itself "the Lord's Resistance Army," and it was founded merely as self-defense against a Muslim terrorist group, similar to the way races segregate in prisons. oh, and races are not religions (i may need to tell you that).

Canada - please name the "Canadian Christian terrorist group." dis gunna be gud.

America - again, the KKK? lol

Again, please name some specific "Christian terrorist groups." bonus points for either a mountain of them, or groups that are not fictitious. if you want to name the groups i just named, then show how they IN ANY WAY are actually doing it to advance Christianity, and not for other reasons.

>They do so disagree on essentials. Some christians use the Nicene trinity others don't. Some believe that Christ was divine, others don't. Some believe that God's power is absolute, others don't, need I go on?

the only essential you listed is the Divinity of Jesus - and even that is subject to *some* debate. the groups that do not believe in His Divinity are almost always - if not always - considered heretical, aberrant groups by just about all of Christendom.

this form of "argumentation" is jejune and easily refuted.

if i were to point to atheists who are patently crazy, would that refute atheism? this is called the genetic fallacy.

also, i would bet my house and all the people in it that Newton was far brighter than you. This would remain a fact even if he routinely shoved cantaloupes in his ass.

Because they don't realize that humanity will find one thing or another to become very dogmatic.

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