Fuck you, America...

Fuck you, America. If you want to be friends with this balding manlet Putin and his fallen oil empire instead of us - so be it.

China is our greatest ally from now on.

>how dare you not want WW3
>if you do not destroy the world in nuclear fire, we threaten to cuck ourselves with China until we are racemixed into oblivion

Er... ok?

>If you don't suck Putin's dick, you automatically want WW3

bullshit, trump is pro polish
also poland doesnt want war with russia, we want peace, so if that means we buy Russian oil and we build their ice breakers, than so be it
Putin isnt Stalin anyways and we have NATO (Which Poland supports up to its goal mark)

>trump is pro polish
Prove it.
The only "pro Polish" thing he did so far was showing up on some Polosh community rally and spouting some election promises written by his staff without any specifics whatsoever.

Meanwhile, he didn't even mention Poland once since he got elected, while he already told he is going to speak with Putin.

>also poland doesnt want war with russia, we want peace
>Posts under Leaf flag

>so if that means we buy Russian oil and we build their ice breakers, than so be it
Yeah, Tusk's government already had that "Russian friendly" attitude. Remember how it ended? For entire time, they kept selling us the most expensive gas and embargoed our meat.

We have literally no other common interests with Russia rather than shitty gas. Once we find other provider, this entire Asiatic shithole can rot in hell.

OP don't be silly. Sup Forums might like Poland cuz we are uncucked but reality is - We really hate everyone, not just Muslims, and we are also hated by tons of people, including folks here in UK. We are irrelevant and yet we think our opinion matters because our based uncucked pride is also our biggest weakness.

They dont even know slav bros, we will kek hard when our time comes.
Kek bless china

The other provider trying to muscle in through Syria and Turkey to Europe is the House of Saud, a bunch of insane muslim royalty running Arabia game of thrones style. Right now NATO is working with these crazy mullahs and their jihadist lapdogs of al-Qaeda, working against Russia. Western people don't want this in a post-9/11 world. Russia would be a much better ally for everyone, even you. We do not want Saudi allies.

You exist because others allowed it poland. Don't forget it

>We are irrelevant
Stop being self-hating cuck.

Poland is currently the most influential Eastern European state aside from Russia.

Siding with China is really our Samson option, and soon it might become the only option avaliable. West is slowly rotting, destroyed by neomarxism from inside. We all know that electing Trump won't change anything, neither will election of other nationalistic, pro-Russian governments. The western societies are too brainwashed at this point. And we already have very good trading and political contacts with China.

Ok

Polen, Hillary and globalists wanted WW3 so that when everything is ash they can rebuild the world in their image. Why do you think so many debate responses from Hillary immediately pivoted to "Russians did it"?

>Right now NATO is working with these crazy mullahs and their jihadist lapdogs of al-Qaeda, working against Russia
As long as it's not happening in Europe, I don't honestly give a fuck about which faction of sandniggers gain power in some irrelevant Middle East shithole. This wouldn't be a problem IF we just didn't allow "immigrants" into our countries.

>Russia would be a much better ally for everyone, even you
Fuck no. This is what Kremlin wants you to think.

Every single country that was ever allied with Russia became a shithole. Their every single "equal" partner was backstabbed by them, sooner or later. Hitler and Napoleon, the brightest minds in history (whether you like them or not) learned from mistakes of others and attacked them before Russians had a chance to do it first (it is historically proven that Stalin WOULD invade Reich a few months later).

>Seriously thinking anyone wanted WW3
Not sure if you're this brainwashed, or just stupid.

You're just eating up the Russian narrative. According to them, ANYONE who dares to oppose them automatically wants WW3. Do you know how many times USSR accused USA of that during the Cold War?

Russians always sponsored pro-Russian movements in Europe and US.

During Cold War, that were hippies and commies. Now it's alt-righters. Nothing has changed.

Note how alt-righters use EXACTLY the same slogans hippies did.

>Make love, not war!
>Russia dindu nuffin, they oppose ebil capitalism/globalism, we should be on good terms with them!

>As long as it's not happening in Europe, I don't honestly give a fuck
Supporting jihadists in irrelevant places can have consequences (pic related)

>Hitler and Napoleon, the brightest minds in history
lol both of them lost their capital cities after failing to take Russia, they weren't geniuses, they wasted many many men for a pointless ground war in Asia

>historically proven that Stalin WOULD invade Reich
'historically proven' here meaning pure speculation

>We are irrelevant
And? Having a good country is more important than being relevant

>our based uncucked pride
It's the effect of our culture, not any ideology or something

>Supporting jihadists in irrelevant places can have consequences
Again - only if you let Muslims into your country.
Deport the Muslims - problem solved. No need to change the foreign policy.

>lol both of them lost their capital cities after failing to take Russia
Indeed, but at least they tried. If they didn't, Russia would have attacked them anyway, and they would be even more fucked.

>meaning pure speculation
The Russian troops Germans met first while entering USSR were designed for offence, not for defence. Paratrooper brigades, especially. This is one of reasons why Soviets got their asses so kicked in the early stage of war.

Stalin WAS preparing his army for invasion.

>>>Make love, not war!
Nobody says this
>>Russia dindu nuffin, they oppose ebil capitalism/globalism, we should be on good terms with them!
But we support capitalism

Poland the toilets need cleaning.

> want to be friends with this balding manlet Putin
No one is going be actual friends with Putin or Russia, be realistic. That doesn't mean we can't be allies in Syria / other conflicts though. I can foresee that US will push us economically further, if that what makes you happy, dear Polish propagan-, oops I mean friend.

>Nobody says this
"Let's ignore Putin's imperialist attitude and allow him to meddle with his neighbours, better make deals with that nigga" means basically the same.

>But we support capitalism
It was a parallel. Hippies loved USSR because of its "opposition against capitalism", alt-righters love Putin for his "opposition against globalism".

>No one is going be actual friends with Putin or Russia
Holding a grip on Putin, allowing Putin to do whatever he wants in Ukraine and lifting of sanctions is exactly what Trump wants. It will be return to the "reset" relations that Obongo started in 2008, back in the day when it was Democrats who were major cucks to Russia.

I dont get how people can fall for this whole le Russia is gonna invade yurop meme. I know he annexed crimea but thats only in response to the CIA coup to install a West friendly government and to protect his Black Sea fleet. Not even NATO cheerleaders actually think Putin wants to invade the Baltics for the fun of it.

dont worry,china has your back
so when it comes to poles vs you,they will choose you

You can't just make a parallel with 2 completely unrelated things. Communism was dogshit, just like globalism. And Putin hardly enforces his shit on Russia's neighbors like USA does around the whole world.

*Loosening a grip on Putin is what I wanted to write.

>Again - only if you let Muslims into your country.
You know that people will never deport the Muslims. And I think you know that sponsoring something evil as jihad is worse than allying Russia.

>If they didn't, Russia would have attacked them anyway, and they would be even more fucked.
Hard to imagine how Germany after ww2 or France after Napoleon could have been more fucked. Invading Russia wasted loads of men and resources, plus it was humiliating. If Russia really was going to invade, it would have been better to prepare and beat them defensively.

>Paratrooper brigades
Yeah Hitler had just made this the hot new thing of course Stalin had them ready to go.

>This is one of reasons why Soviets got their asses so kicked in the early stage of war.
There are too many reasons for that for it to be proof of anything.

>Stalin WAS preparing his army for invasion.
Everyone is always preparing their armies for invasions.

You and your kind is reason why this country is getting played by everyone.

>Wanting to be friends with gooks
You fell very low

we will send Magda to Trump and he will make Poland great again

I mean why wouldn't he want to that?

He clearly has a thing for slavic women

Who the fuck said anything about not being friends with Poland? We give you guys mad props for being a super uncucked nation giving the finger to rapefugees and the EU. Given were not one of the 30+ countries to have banged you around the living room, theres no reason we can't be friends with both. You and your salty relationship with your abusive ex boyfriend is your problem. I just want to go drinking with him on Friday nights.

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It's not about being invaded. It's obvious Russia has no enough power to invade anyone stronger than Georgia and Ukraine, or some other little shithole with Russian minority to "protect".

They are, however, our greatest rival in the fight for supremacy over the eastern Europe. They've been since the early XVth century. Now, finally, we had chance to fully overthrow their influence and gather Baltic states, Belarus and Ukraine under one banner again. But it seems that Americucks would rather "deal" with their sworn opponent and country that backstabbed every ally they ever had rather than have strong, reliable ally in the region.

>the CIA coup to install a West friendly government
Yeah, sure. It was totally a coup. There is NO WAY that people actually could have wanted to get out of Russian sphere of influence themselves, given how every satelite state they ever owned turned into a shithole. '56 Hungary and '68 Czechoslovakia were totally staged by CIA as well.

China is in fact far dangerous for Russia than US, and Putin is perfectly aware of that. While US sphere of interest mainly focuses on Pacific, China desperately needs a lebensraum with their constantly growing population. Vast territories of Siberia are a natural way of expansion.

Now, given that Trump and Putin make a deal, and Chinese-US relations worsen, they will be even more eager and desperate to seek for allies in Europe - especially those that could be a counterweight for Russia.

>Yeah, sure. It was totally a coup. There is NO WAY that people actually could have wanted to get out of Russian sphere of influence themselves, given how every satelite state they ever owned turned into a shithole. '56 Hungary and '68 Czechoslovakia were totally staged by CIA as well.
No one is saying there weren't real prostestors out there in Kiev, but the forces that removed the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED government to install a pro-Western government were absolutely Western intelligence, possibly CIA. Loads of Western officials were there too and there is leaked communication of them choosing Ukrainian officials.

>China desperately needs a lebensraum with their constantly growing population. Vast territories of Siberia are a natural way of expansion.
China is the 3rd or 4th largest country with plenty of territory in the part of the world where agriculture is actually viable

Siberia is a horrible grey desert with tigers, cossack bandits, savage reindeer herders and of course the Russian military - why would they settle there again??

>You can't just make a parallel with 2 completely unrelated things
How are these two "unrelated"? Russia is basically the same state as USSR. They never even denounced the communism, they still revere Stalin and Lenin as their national heroes. It's obvious that they won't change their foreign politics based on divide&conquer tactics either.

>Communism was dogshit, just like globalism
The main problem here is: Putin doesn't oppose the globalism. It's straight-up Kremlin's propaganda to appease the alt-righters. Do you realise who the whealtiest people in Russia are, who control 90% of country's wealth?

>And Putin hardly enforces his shit on Russia's neighbors
>Belarus
>Khazakhstan
>Ukraine
>Georgia
>Baltic states

Yeah, sure.

Don't worry, Trump's not gonna be Putin's friend. Has no reason to. And his cabinet will most likely be the most radical "hawks" in the history of US.
But he won't be Poland's friend either, of course. You're mostly irrelevant, after all.
>not wanting WW3
Wow, you sound practically as if you like this world.

What reason is there NOT to be Putin's friend? The media goes apeshit about, we have a common enemy in the Islamic State, nobody likes the Cold War except the elites that Trump's supporters spit on and supporting "moderate rebels" (terrorists) against Assad & Putin is hurting America's reputation.

Poland is the eternal cuck of geopolitics.

>You know that people will never deport the Muslims
Give me one reason why they won't.
It has to happen anyway, because if it won't, then your argument is still irrelevant - even if western countries stop meddling in Middle East, they still will have internal problem with Muslim minority. Alliance with Russia won't change shit in that matter.

>Hard to imagine how Germany after ww2 or France after Napoleon could have been more fucked
Easily - Russians steamroll them earlier, with similar result. Perhaps the overall losses would be a little smaller, but that's it.

>If Russia really was going to invade, it would have been better to prepare and beat them defensively
Didn't you read what I've just wrote? Stalin was completely surprised by Hitler's attack, because he was prepared for offensive, not for defence.

>of course Stalin had them ready to go.
You don't put paratrooper brigades in the frontlines if you are expecting an enemy invasion.

>There are too many reasons for that for it
It was one of main reasons.

Fighting "together" against syrian mudslimes doesn't mean they'll become "friends". As soon as their interests cross (and they will) Trump & Co will kick Putin's corrupt ass.

Like Shitaly then?

Elaborate. I'm pretty sure that our government will strengthen the ties with China now that USA turned their back on us, it's a natural reaction. Or do you have any other solution of this problem?

It's commonly known as "realpolitik". Something that most of Sup Forums posters who view the geopolitics via memes and Russian propaganda have poor idea of.

They managed to do things pretty independently.
Or is this one of the British fanfics in which they've created the world again?
At least Americans mark their superhero shit as nonfiction.

Face it Sup Forumsak whether its Obama or Trump, Poland is a mere pawn like most other countries. Poland needs to stop kissing ass of America or the West and get together with actual neighbors like Visegrad Group is doing but on a much larger scale. We will get respect when we have something to be respected for.

>DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED
Oh look, Russia protecting democracy. How cute.

The main problem with that "democratically elected" government was the fact that it broke the promises they gave during election - for a long time they supported the integration with EU, and then, out of nowhere, backflipped and decided to sign a treaty that would make Ukraine Russian cuck for eternity. It obviously angered people.

>were absolutely Western intelligence, possibly CIA
Proofs?
As I said, obviously '56 and '68 "coups" had to be staged by CIA as well, because the story was exactly the same in that case.

>Siberia is a horrible grey desert
Ever heard of agriculturing?

>and of course the Russian military
Stretched across long borders, on many fronts, most of it focusing on Europe. It makes a very vulnerable target.

>Poles with Chinese
>Russians with Turks

You Slavs are in for a rude awakening when you realize all these groups your "allying" with are going to stab you in the back.

I think you don't quite understand how geopolitics work.

You can't be "friends" with both Poland and Russia, as our interests are almost exactly opposite. See >whether its Obama or Trump
The funniest thing is, Obama in the beginning of his presidency was exactly what Trump is currently when it comes to Russia. Remember how he started the entire "reset" politics, and how it was Democrats who kept whining about how Repiblicans antagonise Russia?

Well, 2014 changed his opinion drastically, but Trump doesn't seem to realise that he just repeats what was already tried and failed.

As for Poland - what we really need is some classic, old-school Raegan-style Republican. I believe such candidate would be good for both Poland AND USA. People like Cruz, or Pence. Hell, even establishment candidates like Rubio and Kasich would be better for Poland. They would also focus on the real problem that America suffers from - that is, neomarxism. Instead, you elected a liberal, sodomite-friendly populist for pure mirage of "independence" (just because he's self-funded totally means he's going to be a good administrator, trust me) and "anti-globalism".

Well, reap what you sow.

Of course, Russia is totally reliable ally who never backstabbed anyone.