This was much better then it had any right to be. Also Why did he have to die Sup Forums?

This was much better then it had any right to be. Also Why did he have to die Sup Forums?

I just don't get it.
>Set him up in AoU
>Actor is a well known motion capture vet
>Perfect for a weird fucking monster with a fun gimmick
Is there ANY hope of getting pic related?

Double Toasted said he was the worst part of the film.

It's the loose ends rule of films. Characters that are set up to have a greater role in the next film tend to be done away with quickly. See Crossbones and the Other. I'm sure the Sovereign will face the same fate.

Because you expected a good villain in a modern capeshit movie? Because you expect a good villain in a modern action film?

Who are the other and sovereign. Also he wasnt nearly as much of a copout as crossbones, he had a large role in the film and was around for like the first half. Do wish they didnt kill him off and hope they pull some bullshit to resurrect him again

this, wasted opportunity

unless Shuri decides to experiment with him, or the Wakandans keep his corpse around then when she fucks up a science experiment it transforms his corpse into the sound monster

The Other was that servant of Thanos that got his neck snapped by Ronan
Well Wakanda does have supernatural properties, perhaps Klaue's soul haunts the mines?

Does Shuri lust after Bucky

Oh the cool chitauri looking guy, yeah i wish they kept him around

Cause its a marvel movie, the only villains who live for more than one are Loki and Thanos.

But this is his second movie.

I should specify that they only live in one movie where they actually have a real presence.

Well then Thanos doesn't count since he has yet to have a real presence.

I know why people would be pissed about them killing off these villains, but can you honestly see them being used in any significant way? Sure there's always sequel bait, but I think the general audience would be more interested in well-known characters than a c-lister.

I don't know Tony has been in quite a few movies by now.

>Based Serkis hamming it up
>Fucking Klaw
>Wasting him this hard

Good job MCU

Ignoring the fact that everyone might as well be a c-lister to general audiences, Klaw is more well known than every other Black Panther villain combined.

>get actor renowned for his mocap work
>have him play a character whose power is being solid sound so he can take any form, thus requiring an actor good at mocap work
>his character never gets solid sound powers and proceeds to be unceremoniously killed off halfway through the movie
To what end?

Almost every MCU character was a c lister to casuals before the movies. Im not even as upset as mandarin or crossbones, he had alot of screentime and attention in this movie and he was great, but again i wish they kept him around.

Strucker showed up in a cameo for Winter Soldier only to be killed off in AoU early on.

The word around here is that Disney stole some of his motion capture technology (specially the face emulation techniques) and doesn't need him anymore.
That's why he got killed both in BP and TLJ

>believing shit that Sup Forums makes up

So, let's imagine we have the Masters of Evil in the future, no counting tv we have...
-Zemo (Leader) against Cap.
-Abomination against Hulk.
-Hammer (in a wannabe Iron Man armor) against Iron Man.
-Mordo against Dr Strange.
-Ghost? if she survive, against Ant-Man or Vision.
-Batroc? but we already have a Cap villain... this one against Black Widow or Hawkeye.
-Klaw? if he revive with solid sound form, against Black Panther

Then they should add and no waste:
-Amora against Thor
-Karla against Carol
-Fixer against Vision

It probably won't happen, but maaayyybbbeeee Klaw returns in a more robotic form similar to his 616 look?

I know they won't, but humor me.

The way she looked at him, she really wanted that white dick.

>Thunderbolts
>No Songbird
>Or little sister figure

I mean, is it even the Thunderbolts by that point?

That's why it's Masters of Evil and not Thunderbolts
If they ever do thunderbolts it'll be the Luke Cage formation anyway because of Suicide Squad

Cause it furthered the plot. It honestly makes a lot of sense for getting Killmonger to physically get into Wakanda desu.

I made this last year when thinking of what a theoretical MCU Thunderbolts movie could be.

MCU hasn't even gotten to the Masters yet, which should've been Avengers 2, except they keep fucking killing off villains.

And there's supposed to be a REAL Mandarin somewhere...

he and Killmonger were both great
I like it when bad guys seem like they're having a good time

COLONIZED!

>the same writer who wrote the mandarin twist stupidity is making the next predator

Because Marvel can't into villains, even DC has done a better job.

He was my favourite part of the entire thing.

the fuck you talking about
Serkis is just an actor experienced in playing motion captured characters. He doesn't own the tech.

None of the Black Panther villians are well known. Klaw's as much a nobody as anyone else

Now that they've introduced magic I hope they'll revisit that

>Zod, Lex Eisenberg, Doomsday, Ares, Incubus, Enchantress, Steppenwulf]
Sorry user, they really haven't. Not even close.
Heat Legend was a long time ago.

It's weird. He was basically the only source of comedy in the film. Say what you will about BP but it isn't a quip fest.

Yeah, thats why i really liked it alot. It felt alot more grounded and serious

Are you retarded? He's an actor. He doesn't own any mocap tech

>or the Wakandans keep his corpse around then when she fucks up a science experiment it transforms his corpse into the sound monster
That's defiitely possible.
A villain made up of solid sound is likely too much for MCU right now, but things might open up later after Captain Marvel, and Monica Rambeau being solid light some day.

I thought the movie was seriously well written and well acted. I think it took itself seriously and therefore succeeded in selling the imagery being put onscreen.
However, I think there were moments of bad CGI, and I don't think the film really has good editing in its action sequences. But the art direction, sound design, and general feel of Wakanda were all stellar. Also, props to Michael B Jordan for making me give a shit about a Marvel villain again.

Yes, this was honestly the best marvel film since guardians, everything was miles above the same formulaic other marvel films, but yeah their was too much CGI but thats a fault of many films these days

There was an actual gravity and some stakes to everything that happened outside of the fight scenes. It felt kinda like the movie the first Thor should have been.

problem is this movie used about 3 of black panther's main villains (killmonger, man ape and claw) so I don't see whats gonna happen in the sequels

They've already had a villain stored on a computer, a super-robot born from a magic stone, a giant made of fire, a living planet and a titanic timeless dimensional demon lord.

Really I don't think a guy made of sound is taking things too far.

>and a titanic timeless dimensional demon lord.
So what happend to surter after ragnarok anyways? Surely he didnt die from destroying asguard

My votes would be either either Kraven, Doom, Namor or the High Evolutionary.

He was a flame destined to burn out Asgard. Why would he endure past its destruction?

>We never got to listen to his mixtape.
;_;

>Zod was bad
Michael Shannon nailed that role m8

>Stealing the tech
Or they just could just buy his studio, or they could buy Weta Workshops
He does own and run a production studio called The Imaginarium, which specialises in motion capture for movies
And they are still better then what the MCU has pumped out.

That role was "nailed" back in the 80's.
Shannon's Zod was a braying idiot who constantly got his ass kicked by non-combatants.
Yet as sad a villain as he is, he stands head and shoulders above the CGI dreck in the rest of the DCEU, who are on the tier of Spawn and Fantastic Four villains.

The movie took time out of its day to remind us that Zemo is still alive.
I think they want to use him in the future.
Makes sense, he is T'Challa's true love after all.

>Zemo gets super-soldier'd
>Leads the Masters of Evil
>Is a commentary on the alt-right

>spoiler
fuck me, I regret everything

That would mean massive rewrites since he made clear that he hates Hydra just as much as the Avengers and felt genuine remorse over killing T'Chaka.

tfw a fucking dork in a computer was one of the most interesting, compelling and scary MCU villains we've had.

How the fuck do you burn through so many villains so quickly while making them all nearly as bland, uninteresting and as boring as possible? Zola, Klaue, the Master/Melt-Stickman, Ego, Vulture and maybe Yellowjacket are the only good villains we've had. All of them besides Meltstickman and Vulture and most of them were fucking bit roles as well.

How do you make so many characters so shitty? How do you deprive your universe of any longevity by killing off the decent villains this quickly while also wasting actors as good as Andy Serkis, Madds Mikkelsen, Clancy Brown, Hugo Weaving, Ben Kingsley and so many fucking others on these shitty throwaways?

Phase 3 is really a mixed bag. Zemo and Vulture were good and made it out alive and they're setting up Mordo pretty well.

On the other hand, you still get the stock bland villainy of Hela and Kaecilius wasting Blanchett and Mikkelsen and you have Crossbones, Killmonger and Klaw killed off. It's like they're learning, but still incapable to improve across the board.

Phase 2 had flaming Guy Pearce, bored Eccleston with nothing to do, Robert Redford turning into a moustache-twirling evil Templar midway through the movie, fucking Ronan, Ultron being chewed up and spat out by the mess that was AoU and psychotic Yellowjacket. So anything would have been an improvement at this point.

Mordo and Zemo were basically non-characters who weren't fucking interesting in the slightest. Vulture did have some colour and flash to him. I liked Vulture. But the fact that Klaw, Crossbones and basically any other villain who's straddled a series is dead makes it clear to me that any survivors are going to be killed off, like Vulture being killed by the next big baddy to scare Peter.

MCU is a shitshow. After Infinity War, it's going to be dead in the water and the way they're doing Thanos, he's going to be the most generic, boring version of that character possible; he won't have the sneaky manipulation of Starlin's Thanos, the Death obsession of the best Thanoses, the godlike horrifying power and awe of Darkseid-ripoff Thanos.

We'll get boring shitty space pirate Thanos at best.

Marvel's like a dying elephant now, carried forward only by its own inertia and pointless SFX wanking.

Shane Black is a comedic director. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and the Nice Guys are really good. And he wrote Lethal Weapon. And Last Action Hero.

Oh, and btw, Shane Black wanted the biologist chick to be the villain but was overruled by Feige.

Apparently Maya Hansen was supposed to end up as Madame Masque in the early treatments

And they wasted her on Agent Carter season 2 instead. Fucking Ike.

>Why did he have to die Sup Forums?

seriously
if kilmongre already had the map from his dad's book why did he need claw?

was his plan to get close to klaw so he could kill him and get into wakanda?

the whole subplot with the hammer wasn't really explained well. really you could cut out half of BP's plot and it'd still work.

Bringing in Claw instantly gave him credibility and supporters

i dont see why he needed claw to get into wakanda

Bargaining chip.

No they didn't. They were talking about the other white guy.

>Marvel makes a movie in which the villain is a genocidal SJW
>Sup Forums still gets mad about alt-right villains that they conpletely imagine

You people are exhausting

Why did they give him the personailty of Achebe?

I craved more Klaw. He stole every scene he was in.
>You can go, just don't tell anyone.

His spirit got transfered to M'Baku.

>And they are still better then what the MCU has pumped out.
zod is maybe middle tier for me
but vulture, ego, surtur, and killmonger were all really cool and interesting characters

>Turn on their review, within 30 seconds whining
>"Disney isnt known for treating blacks well"
>evidence is a movie from 80 years that committed the crime of having a black person be jolly

how long will black people be pulling this "everything I dont like makes me a victim" shit for?

I'm pretty sure Weaving did it just for the money and said he wasn't ever going to come back.

>Marvel's like a dying elephant now,
we have been saying this since iron man 1
if it finally came true, it would be pure luck, like playing roulette with infinite turns

if anything, marvel has only gotten more popular

>-Zemo (Leader) against Cap.
No, Zemo is done. He did what he wanted to do and even made it clear he could do nothing else. He has zero motivations now, and he even tried to kill himself ffs.

For cap, I'd say Red Skull, even if they don't get Weaving to play him. His "death" was anything but, and much like Loki was rescued by Thanos at the end of the first Thor movie when he got lost in between realms, the same could have happened to him.

no she is pure and innocent little sisterfu

WHAT IS LOVE

It was Ike Perlmutter, mot Fiege. Ike thought a female wouldn't sell as a toy

>vulture
Decent
>Ego
Good, not great
>surtur
What the fuck no
>killmonger
Legitimately great

If they have no further big-screen plans for Mandarin, they should put him and the 10 Rings in one of the Netflix shows, like Iron Fist or Daredevil (The Hand is done to death). Hell, I wouldn't mind if they also tied them to Frank Castle's mission in Afghanistan.

please dont tell me you scrubs dont think vulture was based

There was never an endgame for Klaue. Andy Serkis was brought in to give Mark Ruffalo and James Spader notes on mocap acting for AGE OF ULTRON, and got offered a bit part because they needed Ultron to get Vibranium from someone and thought they might as well use a established Vibranium-dealing character from the comics.

Better than ecpected, but im klaue was the worst. Boring lolsorandumb villain

I wouldn't call Vulture 'based' but he was one of the top villains to date.

Well acted, sympathetic and believable reasons for villainy, a credible and effective threat, and even managed to not fall victim to the immediately killed off thing.

>we will never get his mixtape
Feels bad, man.

Didn't you know, user? Any movie set in the reconstruction era that doesn't have black people being miserable is racist!

>villain made up of solid sound is likely too much for MCU right now
You're insane.
We've had Ant-Man, Giant-Man, Microverse, Doctor Strange Dimension Trips, living planets, communicating with dead ancestors....

>how can they square the updated James Bond, Star Wars technology of the Wakandan people with the fact that they still live like the natives in Tarzan movies?
>This indicates how little Americans know about various cultures on the African continent. Black Panther’s Marvelization of black history and anthropology is pathetic, and the Marvelizing of black imagination is appalling.

What do you faggots have to say to that?!

It gave him credibility too. People (like Rhino man) were disappointed with T'Challa failing to capture Klaw, so when Killmonger brought him....

>I'm sorry about your father. He seemed a good man. With a beautiful son.
Zemo x T'Challa is the only ship I'm down with.

Well, there was Shuri, aka Darcy from Thor 1 done right.
That's bullshit.

There, I said something about the bullshit. Happy now?

>this triggers the Marvelfag.