So why is it that many cartoons lately dont get any merchandise at all? OK KO has nothing besides it being very toyetic...

So why is it that many cartoons lately dont get any merchandise at all? OK KO has nothing besides it being very toyetic, loud house would lend itself well to a doll line of all the sisters, and their is still no standard doll or action figure line for steven universe besides CN obviously having to have heard all the demand for them.

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Kids don't want toys anymore user. They want electronics.

Tpys are expensive to make and kids don't buy toys anymore.

Thats why better chances are done doing mobile games for said shows.

Because it doesn't fit with their business model. They aren't in the business of making cartoons, they're in the business of selling ad space. Series that become cult classics can actually become to expensive to maintain so they try to shitcan the show so they can shit out a cheaper series to sell ad time around.

CN wants successful shows, but not too successful. It's a stupid business model but it's what they do.

Ive said this before thats a bullshit myth. Problem is companies have become really cheap and kids dont want the really bad things they make, while things like lego and moose toys sell well because they actually put effort into their product

> kids don't buy toys anymore

the entire reason for soft-rebooting powerpuff girls was to make more toys.

yeah, and look at how well that went

>So why is it that many cartoons lately dont get any merchandise at all?
because cartoon network isnt willing to make porn figurines

you only get merch if youre a good show

not toys
they wanted clothes, accesories, schoolbags, cellphone cases, jewlery

>still no standard doll or action figure line for Steven Universe
Probably because it's physically impossible to translate the inconsistency of the characters into toys and dolls. They would have to have dolls of 14 different sizes and different doll parts varying from levels of shittiness that the show does.

Go to a microsoft and apple store or look at any kid in general and they all have fucking tablets in their hands. while Toys r us already filed for bankruptcy. open your damn eyes

Now that they have access to internet they'll be jerking off to porn at a younger age.

Toysrus is bankrupt because of amazon, not all kids are tablet autists faggot

Let's be real here, it's the adults that want toys and damn well they should! The Japanese toy market is flourishing because of the actual effort put into their toys. When will CN wake up o the fact that adults watch their stuff too?

Because miller wants CN to be a preschool channel becasue she hates anyone older then 10 to like cartoons becasue shes so fucking backwards she believes that cartoons are just for kids still besides also running adult swim under her.

>Spending money to make money
That's not how capitalism works anymore.

Normal adult Americans aren't willing to spend hundreds of dollars on plastic sculptures.

>That's not how capitalism works anymore.
This is why the free market must be dismantled. Soon everything from toys to clothing will be 10 times the price while having the quality of a KO made in indonesia.

>what are funko pops
Its like you dont even know the levels of dedication normies are willing to collect absolute shit

Pops don't cost hundreds of dollars each. If you want good toys, you're gonna have to shell out more than normies are willing to pay and ensure that the product is profitable to even bother with.

Marvel legends and other similar toys cost 20$ at the most
>buying statue shit
Opinion discarded

>buying Marvel legends shit
SH Figuarts are $40+ and what all decent action figures should be aiming for.

Sorry, i dont want overrated jap shit that falls apart every time I hold it.

Then don't complaint that American kids aren't buying toys.

That has nothing to do with my argument that kids are still buying toys, where did you even pull that from your ass to think that was related at all?

NSWF art is going to skyrocket. Get in the ride boyos, when you still can.

I hope you enjoy your Pops faggit

Have fun with your poorly made weeb shit while i enjoy superior american toys

>implying I have such little self respect as and artist that I'd sellout for a quick buck
Yeah no

Shut up and draw goth peridot porn you faggot

Drew this just for you user now kys

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Why a mustache

>loud house would lend itself well to a doll line of all the sisters
Stop, and get some help.

hoo hoo! hoo hoo! hoo hoo!

>implying you wouldnt buy a doll of this cinnamon roll

Those are pretty good user i can tell from your drawing style youre a girl BTW

>"Toy industry sales grew by 1 percent in 2017 across the 12 global markets tracked by The NPD Group, a leading global information company. On par with the world’s collective performance, toy sales in the United States, the world’s largest toy market, grew by 1 percent to $20.7 billion in 2017."

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Here's the thing. There's two kinds of cartoon shows. Ones that are designed around the toys they sell like TMNT, and comedy shows that won't get any merch until it's popularity proves to be a worthwhile investment like Adventure Time. The problem is that nothing has ever gotten as big as Adventure Time in years. That's why some shows have toys out before the show even airs, while it takes things like gravity falls 2 years before any merch is released.

Why do they think something needs to be as big as adventure time to have toys? Not every blockbuster is fucking star wars (the original trilogy) but they still deserve toys. Do they not care about more potential profits?

You say that like manufacturing, distribution, and promotion of toys isn't a genuinely deep financial investment. It really isn't enough to just make a return on the products without enough profit to pay off the interest loans required to get that sort of production rolling off the ground. These big companies still have to go to the bank, man.

And not making any merchandise at all and ignoring potential profits is the better solution then taking a risk and profiting off your IPs outside of revune for ad space?

"hey look that guy from that movie. this thing is only $7. sure i'll buy it!"

meanwhile i have about $300 worth of nendoroids on my to-buy list.

>taking a risk
you answered your own question. Yes, to people who don't want to potentially get fired over being the ones who suggest a toyline that costs a company to bleed money, doing nothing is better.

Unless it involves tax writeoffs, and you can't do that with something that actually sells really well, so its this balancing act of making products that are either guaranteed to sell like crazy and make a load of profit, or products that skirt the line and ultimately fail in the market so you can follow your tax plans for that quarter and write it off to squeeze a little more money than you would've gotten from a moderately successful toyline that you have to pay taxes on.

>not paying more than $20 for nice figures or statues
opinion discarded

So, ignoring fans and being too cowardly to even try to make profits off your IPs is their reasoning? Christ, no wonder CN is doing terrible financially

I never said i dont pay more then 20$.
even though i buy alot of american stuff, i have been collecting figurarts sailor moon figures

Maybe 6 years ago taking a risk would be an option, but due to streaming and the decline of cable, every studio is playing it safe right now. That's why everything is a reboot or adaptation right now. They want a guaranteed hit right out the door or they throw you on nicktoons network and try something else

You're missing the point. You literally make more money off a poor selling toyline that you then write off as a tax loss than you do making a moderately profitable toyline that makes back expenses and maybe even interest loans on those expenses, but the remaining profit is so negligible that you lost money from not doing something else instead. You only really gain money from mass produced toylines if they're a guaranteed hit.

It isn't about being "cowardly", its literally just sane business. They hire people to project sales figures on all sorts of shit, and these are people who are paid to be mathematical and objective about analytics, and the fact is that if CN had just commissioned all these sweet niche toys that a lot of people wanted, but not everyone, they would've simply bankrupted circa 2005.

The entertainment business is a world of compromises, quit being an unrealistic fanboy and at least understand where these companies are coming from, they don't have infinite money to burn. Actually, I wouldn't doubt it if CN was barely profitable, if not in outright debt and only surviving off its subsidiary status.

>but due to streaming and the decline of cable
Cable wont die, hypefag. Also that has nothing to do with refusing to make merch, even when shows have toyetic designs or a fanbase, this is just plain incompetence on CNs part.

Are you seriously trying to make me feel sorry for them? Not making a toyline even though they make a profit, or doing immoral tax bullshit to make toylines outve something no one wants instead, only proves how they dont listen or care to the viewerbase and is part of the reason why they are failing
>unrealistic fanboy expectations
Wanting to support shows with merch isnt entitled at all, fuck off

Also, keep in mind I'm talking about mass produced toylines, niche market toylines are a whole other beast entirely and there are companies that make a killing selling a fraction of the numbers with much more highly priced figures that can afford to be higher quality.

The problem is CN's main target demographic doesn't exactly have that sort of money, and they can't really market towards adults because that's basically a big risky business move that might not pan out, they already have the adult swim brand, crossing the streams might hurt CN's family friendly rep. Even if they did target a niche collector's audience, though, that sort of profit only really works for legacy licences and media that's already in the niche target audience's radar, not so much a larger company like CN.

>and they can't really market towards adults because that's basically a big risky business move that might not pan out
Because marketing exclusively to kindergartners has worked out so well

Networks do not care about fans outside the target age group, because if mostly older fans are watching a kids show, they wont pay attention to the commercials aimed at kids,
and that'll make the advertisers upset. That's the problem when a show like steven universe has a lot of highschool and college kids watching it and demanding figures that only they will buy.

This is a good point. Advertising to children is the most effective marketing strategy, because they have a very large stake on their parent's spending habits. Losing that demographic won't impress advertisers.

Oh fuck off with your emotional bullshit, these shows are a business, toys are a business, people have to get paid cold hard cash to produce these things and the fact is that you and the twenty other people willing to buy a peridot onahole or whatever isnt going to cover the costs of making them. I'm outright telling you why these companies don't do this, its sensible logical shit, it might not be ideal or even very likeable, but its fucking business. Toylines that make borderline profit aren't a profit anymore, especially in this economy, Tax laws can kinda get in the way of small successes for companies, so that's why they do "immoral tax bullshit".

Look, if CN spent an entire quarter budget on a summer season toyline of steven universe toys, they'd either go out of business at worst, stop any and all production of anything new they might be doing and probably cancel steven universe to make at least some sort of money back in some kind of tax writeoff since its technically the same brand that generated a loss at best.

I'm not asking you to feel sorry for them, don't be a fucking child. I'm just telling you what the facts and reasoning is behind why you aren't gonna get a pearl figma ever.

But shows like OK KO is more popular wih actual kids, whats the point of not making toys for their target audience. Also
>because if mostly older fans are watching a kids show, they wont pay attention to the commercials aimed at kids,
and that'll make the advertisers upset.
I think i found the reasoning behind millers autistic hatred for anything that has an older fanbase

>Oh fuck off with your emotional bullshit
>WAHHH THIS BIG MULTINATIONAL CONGLOMERATE HAS FEELINGS TOO PLZ DONT BULLY
Fuck off

You're lying about what I said because you're a huge manchild faggot that's covering their ears going "LALALA" at fucking facts.

I don't give a shit about whoever's running CN, they're probably a bunch of soulless jews, I'm just telling you why they aren't going to put money down on a toyline. It could be the dopest shit ever and it'd still be a bad financial decision. You have to compromise in business, that's just a fucking fact, and even though there might be some people working at CN's executive offices who'd be down for a toyline of a show at the company they like, the fact is that the people who decide what gets a toyline don't give a shit about cartoons to begin with. To them it isn't even a compromise, they're just being objective.

Well theyre fucking stupid, becasue the market isnt nearly as small as you make it for a toyline of something like steven universe

OK KO was made to sell video games, which is why the series was announced at the same time it's game was.

American animation studios are led by incompetent people. The Japanese know how to properly merchandise their anime.

>implying vidya doesnt get action figures

For mass produced toylines? No, yeah, its a fucking money sinkhole, especially if they're poor quality (and they would be). Even the couple of chibi statue figures of the characters sold like absolute garbage, they probably put those out just to test the waters, and not even the rabid online fanbase likes them. And a collector's audience toyline simply doesnt generate enough profit to be worth the balance of growing production for demand.

If a bunch of stupid money hungry jews running a studio wanted to make money off their property, they would've done it already, the fact that they haven't means that its a certainty that there's not really any financial potential for it. Quality? Sure, shit'd be cash, but the story of the new toymaker company that makes a single line of really amazing figures that a lot of people wanted, and then immediately goes out of business is as old as the business itself.

>No, yeah, its a fucking money sinkhole
Youre a fucking retard. The audience is certainly their. The reason why the economy is so stagnant is partially because the ballless cowards are too scared to even try to make more money because of “muh risks”

They're so cheap to make that it's not needed as all of them are $10,000 a episode tops, $40,000 a episode if they're ditched over seas.
Buy they don't want mobile shovelware, they want at least a C grade game on the Nintendo Switch as normies are getting sick of gacha games hence why the Switch is doing so well.
But there once was a time when they just wanted to make a cartoon.
And as I always say; Has John K taught you nothing.
And all they want is Figmas if that.
No, they don't, they want Switch games, Amiibos and Figmas.
The only tablet they have is a Nintendo Switch, they're at the Nintendo E-Shop you yutz.
Not true, today's kids know better then that.
No they are not.
Because all 3 networks' shows look like shit and even Voltron:LD, Castlevaina:TAS & Lego Elves:SOED on Netflix (aka the only non-Japanese shows right now that are actually trying). suffer from choppy animation, bad timing and bad posing that will make Tex Avery turn in his grave and are so bad that they make the insulting to Walt Rudish Mickeys look good in comparison (and those I always found a guilty pleasure anyway), and when you know those did better then the 3 shows I just brought up then you know you fucked up badly.

Just be glade Animaniacs is coming back with it's original JAPANESE animation (aka the only staff that matters besides the voice cast) staff to fix this mess as we're sick of Lupin III and they need to give Cardcaptor Sakura Clear Card & Voltron:LD a run from it's money anyway.
Unless they're Amiibos and Figmas of course.
Thats not Cinnamon Roll, this is (see picture).
Get that Filmation garbage out of this industry mam, not being rude but it's making Tex Avery turn in his grave.

If you want things done right watch this.

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>Not true, today's kids know better then that.
Are you saying internet porn is bad somehow?

Yes.

>Yes
Why?

do you guys know what counts for toys anymore?

That graph counts smart toys and electronics in that and all toys regardless of age.
The toddler market has soared while the tween market has all but crashed on toy sales.

>vidya
Get that shit outve here

The thing is that even the kids hate it.
And they need to change that as these shows are funded out of their own pockets, not sponsors like in Japan.
Today's kids are too smart for that any more, hence why they're moving away from mobile and are going over to the Nintendo Switch.
There was once a time when that was not the case and Cardcaptor Sakura Clear Card is fixing that.
Kids don't watch OK KO, they watch old Looney Tunes and Tex Avery shorts through DVDs/Blu-Rays and streaming sites.

The only modern thing they watch is Cardcaptor Sakura Clear Card as Animaniacs season 6 is not coming until 2020 because of future Lupin III projects being shoved inbetween Animaniacs season 6's production.
Not just that but they know to never look at those types of sites.

You did say tablet and thats the only tablet they want because theres no gacha in sight on it.

What kind of idiot parent gives their toddler a fucking ipad anyways? It will rot their itnellegiance, imagination, and critical thinking skills to become just as dumb as this shit

Nintendo counts for toy sales in the US and UK.

Are you a new shitposter? Because your tex avery autism is going to derail so many threads. Keep doing gods work user.

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>and their is still no standard doll or action figure line for steven universe besides CN obviously having to have heard all the demand for them.
>Wanting this given the SU's character design.
Did you see the standard action figures for Regular Show and Adventure Time? They were awful.

Im 18 user
Id rather have a figure of a character i like with flaws then no figures at all

It might be Famicom, he's probably still butthurt over his WB lies thread getting shitcanned.

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It's not shitposting, it's facts, you just don't bother with the outside world is all.
Rednecks.

>Im 18 user
well it's a damn shame you are already hating all the wonder life can offer through technology.

Hey man, i dont care if you are ironic or not, alot of the things youre saying i agree with so keep on it

>I'd rather have a figure of a character i like with flaws then no figures at all
They'd be VERY serious flaws, the RS figures were THAT bad. Hell, the Rigby figure was even parodied in a later episode.

Also, I just realized that the toy industry's long-held belief about action figures based off of female/feminine characters is another reason why SU action figures aren't a thing.

>making kids into autistic shut ins who cant think or come up with new ideas because theyre conditioned to think just like their repetitive app games
>wonder of technology
No one under the age of 16 should have a smart device, hell even the kids i went to high school with couldnt use them properly or not misuse them.

You agree with Looney Tunes, Tex Avery and CCS?!?.... Thats great, someday this industry will be fixed.

>I just realized that the toy industry's long-held belief about action figures based off of female/feminine characters is another reason why SU action figures aren't a thing.
Then market them as dolls but build them like action figures like the miraculous ladybug toys

More like anyone under 21 is not allowed to use a smart device, it will help AMD & Nvidia make more GPU to combat the crypto miners as of late.

Shut up, Famicom.

>Toys R Us filed for bankruptcy
>JouéClub is still going strong
This seems like an American problem specifically

At this point just get in the 3D modelling and make your statue with a 3D printer

because mobile games and apps are cheaper to make and distribute, and kids buy it like hot bread.

Kids want Switch games, not mobile as they got sick of gacha.

But manchilds buy them, isnt that the point why their made? I mean look at their audiences, pedos, autist etc.

Less then 1% of the market.

I don't know any kids, nor do I know anybody with kids, but judging by all the people I see here and other places bitching about little kids spending more time on their phones I'm going to assume that modern kids aren't interested in shit like action figures anymore, and would prefer to either be using electronics or playing with "big shit" like Nerf guns and such.

I dont want some ugly 3d printed statue