Why do you guys think we're socialists? (we aren't)

Why do you guys think we're socialists? (we aren't)

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Liberals do, everyone else with a fucking brain don't.

NORGE is based. we all no the fucking Swedes are the twats in Scandinavia

Then why the fuck does it cost 13 USD for a god damn beer?
Taxes that go to extravagant healthcare benefits that everyone gets for free?

Then why do you pay 50% in taxes

Norge is pretty socialistic. Bernie Sanders would be on the far right in Norway. The only party I know of that is further to the right than Bernia Sanders is FRP. And Bernie Sanders would likely not be very unusual even if he was a member of FRP desu.

And Bernie Sanders is considered LEFT in America. So compared to America we are pretty socialistic.

Only people who have an income of $50 million per year or more pay that much tax. It is pretty much only the rich who pay lots of tax. I earn ~$50 per hour so I am on the poorer scale compared to the rest of the norwegians. But I don't pay that much tax I don't feel.

Most don't.

I was always under the impression that you guys were capitalist but with robust social programs

Because we know basic economics, and don't perceive taxes as teft, you anarchy-capitalist swine.

I don't even need to use normative arguments in order to defend a welfare state with a mixed economy. It's the best and most sustainable economic system in human history.

Retarded libs think you are because you have a working economy and of course a socialist economy is the only one that works in their hamster brains.

Because Americans are dumb as shit and thing Norway and Sweden are the same place.

Much like Ireland and Scotland.

Because you don't let people die in the street and have a functional government.

This is partly true.

We spend more money on welfare, and especially social support, than anything else. The result is that 84% of our total valued wealth is our magnificent labour force.

That's a fucking awful argument there, amigo.

Mixed economy, and great social programs.

>implying every European country isn't socialist
If you don't think Europe is completely socialist near communist you have no brain. You've been fed propaganda.

That'd be great in the US but we have waaaaay too many people for something like that to work

Vist faen er vi sosialister, gå og heng deg.

A LEAF

they think you that all of scandinavia are killing themselves, but only we are

Different countries. Americans work much harder than us, strangely, and still struggles

>500 i timen
>kaller seg selv fattig
Du er full av dritt.

Why aren't you a Monarchy? :/
You'd have soooo much tourism money.

Nigga ta deg sammen.

"Sosialisme er en politisk ideologi som har et mål om okonomisk likhet mellom medlemmer av et klasselost samfunnet hvor produksjonsmidlene er eid av staten. Sosialister tror ikke på det frie marked, med tanken på at det skaper store forskjeller mellom rike og fattige."

Staten vår styrer på ingen måter produksjonen av store andeler av alle produkter, det de kontrollerer er utdanning, helse, og sosialstotte, og selv disse intutisjonene har enorme friheter og kapitalitiske markedsalternativer.

>Hva er Starbucks
>Hva er russ.no
>Hva er uteliv og klubber
>Hva er et et fritt marked

Fullfor videregående.

Too many markets, not enough buyers. People try to be creative with their money and it falls flat a lot of the time

Taxation is extortion by definition.

The question is whether you agree that extortion is universally immoral or acceptable under certain circumstances. Your inability to grasp the slightest complexity of this argument indicates that your beliefs are based on nationalistic pride and not rational thought.

Spotta studenten.

I don' think you're a socialist. Your country's taxes are too high, though. Also y'all should considered kicking the Jews an non-whites out of your country again.

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best for tiny homogeneous societies where no one has any real aspirations

Ownership isn't real unless created by social contracts. I don't belive in any objective or universally moral rights or similar metaphysical theories and objects. I believe in what works.

Also, yes, it's complete acceptable, because amongst the benefits of this system is the incentive for consumers to take greater risk due to the safety-net created by collective funding. There's a relative small percentage of unemployment, which is healthy in any economy. Taxes fund this, and most Norwegians are in complete agreement that it has been shown to have great results.

>understand economics
>regulates businesses
Pick one communist SWINE

Socialism works better with bigger governments like United States

That's rich from a country with stagnated social mobility.

people in the USA say that Norway/Sweden/Denmark/Finland are all socialist to make socialism look like it's great to try to and persuade people to be socialists in the name of equality. only works on normies

There is alot of millionaires here. I don't know what you mean by "aspirations", but becoming succesful is not out of reach here at all.

Certain businesses should be regulated, because the free market isn't effective enough in allocating them, such as education, health, and most important, social security. The idea of a regulated welfare system is based around the idea of insurance. Think of it like that: the entire government is an insurance company, a business that generates capital by investing in the people.

500 timen er det du kan forvente med en master grad, og/eller en oljejobb, I og med at oljen har gått til helvete så kan det tenkes at du ikke er annsatt i et oljefirma. Dermed har du en mastergrad, eller en eller annen slags form for sjefsjobb.
Også dollaren ligger ikke lenger på 5 kroner, den er oppe i droye 9 kroner til dags.

The reason you cucks call Scandinavia socialist is to make Scandinavia look good. when it's not

>social security. The idea of a regulated welfare system is based around the idea of insurance. Think of it like that: the entire government is an insurance company, a business that generates capital by investing in the people.
Literally should not exist at all. Life is about risks. The irony of that post of trying to convince me socialism is good is the only regulation I would actually like is a ban on insurance companies. Nothing makes me madder than seeing so much wasted money on insurance when life is suppose to be risky not about safety nets.

>hva er NAV
>hva er pressestotte
>hva er finnmarksloven
>hva er statoil
>hva er norges gruppen

Forste fyrn sa det greit, heng deg.

>$50 per hour
>poorer scale
yeah, if you only work two hours a day.

For the last time, it's not socialism, it's called a mixed-economy. Here's a link.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_economy

Normative arguments are undebatable, so I'll rather ask you a question:

Why do you perceive life to be about risk instead of satisfying your needs?

This is the closest I've ever gotten to observing a socialist in the wild. Fascinating behavior.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_economy

Ikke sosialisme.

American moving to Norway in a few months.

Already at B1 level Norwegian.

I'm not leaving. :^)

It's funny because the success of the "Nordic model" was based on:

1. Only a few million people
2. Homogeneous population
3. Isolationist policies.

They were basically national socialist, except without nationalism yet it basically worked the same way because there were no other races. These points are no longer true due to mass third world immigration, which is also why the model is failing.

By your standards china is not socialist.

You better be milky white my dude.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_with_Chinese_characteristics

It's by many standards not.

>For the last time, it's not socialism, it's called a mixed-economy. Here's a link.
Mixed economy = Socialism

>Why do you perceive life to be about risk instead of satisfying your needs?
It is about satisfying needs, not preventing your needs from being filled by wasting all your money in an insurance company

If it could work good with a 2 million people then think about how well it would work with 200 million people, 200 times better.

I was going to say - the move towards aristocracy in the US is frustrating aspirations, as your place is rapidly becoming a matter of birth, not drive.

Of course if the right wing was actually serious about a meritocracy they'd be in favor of raising estate taxes to lower income taxes. But they don't, and they aren't.

Then you should look closer and also observe my italian cashmere coat, the Cartier on my wrist, my vicuna shawl and the Mont Blanc in my pocket.

> the model is failing.

citation needed

youtube.com/watch?v=yxA9O2WW138

I fucking love you of this guy.

what do you work as? I get 55-ish per hour as a substitute teacher, so whatever you've got has to be some real good shit.

>I was going to say - the move towards aristocracy in the US is frustrating aspirations, as your place is rapidly becoming a matter of birth, not drive.
United States is 100% meritocracy. It's literally determined by intelligence. I have an IQ of 93 and despite being born to parents with quite a bit of money who could afford any University for me I am still a lifeguard because I couldn't get the marks for the University. I know I'm being hard on myself but I hate when people say "I could be successful if I had the money"

flisespikkeri.
til syvende og sist går alt for mye av lonna til tull og piss som innvandrere, samer, kunst og gratis studering av kjonnstudier.

Wrong.
You have to come back.

>200 million people, 200 times better
I expected better trolling, leaf.

>citation needed
google.com/search?q=sweden third world country 2030&rlz=1C1CAFA_enUS654US654&oq=sweden third world country 2030&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l2.31970j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Nazi german policy and norwegian policy are actually really similar, right down to the constitution where there is a ban on jews (which we should probably return to)

>Sweden, the richest country becoming third world in 14 years
Ok it's bait guys, ABORT RESPONSE

>google.com/search?q=sweden third world country 2030&rlz=1C1CAFA_enUS654US654&oq=sweden third world country 2030&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l2.31970j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Norway and Sweden are, surprisingly enough, different countries.

>Ignoring that Norway has some of the most lax business laws in the world

Nærmere 400 i timen enn 500. 1$ er ikke 10kr. Euro kan være. Jobber i toll.

They still have taxes. THey still have public education.

I'm a White Euro mutt, but in Norway, I'm assumed to be a Norwegian until I open my mouth.

Or untl you drop your trousers ;)

>i own these things and that makes me right

Socialists, fascinating creatures really.

Yes, and it seems to be doing quite well for them. Now if only they could solve that muzzie problem.

Thank you, we are. Now I am soon to go working out and start another blissful day in this great country.

we have like 1300 jews here.

viste ikke at jeg hadde så mange landsmenn her

True. Fug, I do have the mark of Der Juden on my benis.

industry doesn't get anywhere because of regulations and taxes

Atleast we are more based than cucked sweden, although im taking a government job based of off others taxes for easy and safe lifeJa vi elsker dette landet

Wait are you saying Muslims are a problem because they are poor or because they are Muslim?

lærer?

Miljoterapeut aka social worker, mann

Socialism would probably get a lot of support in the US if it was the 19th century European kind of socialism which actually does things to benefit the working class. Leftism used to be strongly anti-immigration, for example, so native workers wouldn't be outsourced and forced to work for less or lose their job. Socialism also just plain doesn't work in multicultural societies, there's no unifying sense of society to benefit one another, you'll just be paying welfare for lazy niggers.

It's actually good so many American citizens are aware US socialism is like those "click to win a million dollars!" scam pop ups you see online.

we now have african ghettos made up exclusively by people living on welfare. they're shitting out more kids to get more gibsmedat, while norwegian women are almost shamed if they have kids before a successful career. it's gonna be real bad here in 20 years time

So you have about 1300 too many.

>75% tax burden
>massive government programs
>government ownership of oil

hadde vært jævli morsomt hvis en user hadde vert lærer

Funny isn't it?

Liberals here scream and beg for socialism in America because a few all white countries made a "socialist" utopia in europe. All the while praising the diversity that is being forced on those countries.

Not if we keep out the migrants waves incoming

Same as me, going the safe way. 3 years done at college, i will do 2 more for a master abroad i think. When i get home, I got some contacts from working in custom declaration (toll/import), so just going to apply at a leaderjob there. Then... who knows

agreed but i'm just saying jews aren't wrecking norway from within like the US and sweden

IDK about socialist, but I do know that your country is filled to the brim with refugees and is cucked beyond belief. Don't worry, vikingbro God Emperor Trump and the amazing Mike Pence will liberate your nation and make it part of the Great White Empire

just have kids and don't give a fuck and vote for the most right wing candidate you can

Being a man in healthcare = instant goverment boss, decent pay for a bachelor

>third world country by 2030
normies still write articles without know what a third world country is

It will be as shitty as "third world country" but geopolitical it will never be.

>yfw Gypsyland has lower rape and assaults then Sweeden
>yfw when Gypsyland has lower crime rates the Iceland

Thanks Europe for taking all the Gypsies and shits ... have fun with them since we don't what them back.

numbeo.com/crime/country_result.jsp?country=Romania

Crime Index: 28.70
Safety Index: 71.30

numbeo.com/crime/country_result.jsp?country=Iceland

Crime Index: 28.20
Safety Index: 71.80

numbeo.com/crime/country_result.jsp?country=Sweden

Crime Index: 46.52
Safety Index: 53.48

numbeo.com/crime/country_result.jsp?country=South Africa

Crime Index: 76.17
Safety Index: 23.83

Sweden halfway there to South Africa tier !

But so is Norway...

numbeo.com/crime/country_result.jsp?country=Norway

Crime Index: 45.11
Safety Index: 54.89

Whats with yo crime Norway?
Are you even White?

Gypsies be Gpyies I get it... But i would rather have my Daughter have her wallet stolen then raped and impregated by arab cum.