Redpill me on Strasserism.
I met a strasserist today and when we discussed Jews I was interested. He said strasserism attacks Jews not based on a racial/ethnic level but on a economic/social level. He said that to him as long as they keep the national struggle against elitist globalists he doesn't give a shit. He said that about most minorities *granted he felt the races were better seperated but he said if contact is inevitable in a community cooperation would be nice.
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Ethan Edwards
Strasserists are ok. Kinda hipster-tier in tha they just wont accept NatSoc but hey theyre allies to the right. A lot of them are former commieslike Kai Murros who used to be a Maoist and is now a White Nationalist Strasserist. I dont hate the real far left that much, I myself used to be a Marxist, I think they have intellectual basis but I just think its very utopistic. leftypol does raid this place though and I'd warn pol about their subversion.
Samuel Reyes
>allies to the right
I thought Hitler kicked out Strasser for being too left?
Liam Morris
>Redpill me on Strasserism.
The actual leftist socialists that were part of National Socialism before they redefined "socialism" to mean "volkism" and anything resembling a leftist was purged.
Charles Nelson
True I'd kick them out if I had a government but were not in a posiiton to be picky right now considering the right really needs to pull off victories right now.
Ryan Myers
Never dis uncle Addy
Christian Powell
They were economically left but highly nationalist instead of wanting a world wide, globalist, Socialist revolution like Trotsky and Lenin wanted. They were economically and socially similar to modern day North Korea.
Samuel Torres
Strasserist here. We believe in consolidating industry into worker owned guilds. It's essentially a form of corporatism without the bourgeois element. We're opposed to the internationalism related to communism and we also see capitalism as a globalist system driven only by profit. Some of us are racially aware (myself being one of them) others not as much. Personally I believe in separation of the races, I also believe that multiculturalism doesn't work. I also see capitalism as a tool of the Jews. Communism is the same, however communists are usually just misguided retards who can't drop the internationalism pushed by Marx.
I'm not representative of all Strasserists but that's just my two cents.
Thomas Scott
Literally who?
Eli Ross
So Donald is to Hitler as Sanders is to Strasser?
Dylan Miller
Would you be willing to work with facists? I feel like if the right wing gets to fratcured were gonna end up in a situaion like the Spanish Ciivl War.
Jaxon Morales
sounds about right
Joshua Smith
I consider myself both a fascist and a socialist. (not sure if that makes sense) So yes, I'd be more than willing to work with anyone who is currently in the process of burning down the system. I voted Trump as the accelerationist candidate (even though he's not a fascist, a lot of fascists support him).
I actually relate more to fascists than I do to communists since most communists are just middle class liberal faggots pretending to be radical but either way. I want to create a strong workers state free of the (((bourgeois))). Not to mention I've been banned from /leftypol/ probably 6 times now so I'm more than bitter against the communists who care more about their internationalist bullshit than actually overthrowing liberalism.
Jaxon Price
/leftypol/ really is just an example of how divided most of the international left is. You got tankies defending what ancoms say isnt real socialism and everyone hates trots. They say they dont like idpol but I know damn well most of them are full on faggots or trannies. I mean there wa that pic of that trip xixzy who turned out to be a furfag.
Joseph Brown
Strasser was more like the cuckservatives of the GOP.
Camden Flores
read
ia801305.us.archive.org/6/items/GermanyTomorrowOttoStrasser/Germany%20Tomorrow%20-%20Otto%20Strasser.pdf
ia902701.us.archive.org/17/items/NemesisTheStoryOfOttOStrasser/nemesis.pdf
ia601404.us.archive.org/34/items/ThePrisonerOfOttawa/prisoner.pdf
ia601605.us.archive.org/3/items/HitlerAndI_246/HitlerAndI.pdf
ia601309.us.archive.org/6/items/FlightFromTerrorOttoStrasser/Flight%20from%20Terror%20-%20Otto%20Strasser.pdf
ia800302.us.archive.org/23/items/DieDeutscheBartholomusnacht/DieDeutscheBartholomusnacht.pdf
most important is germany tomorrow, others are mostly autobiographies.
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Noah Jenkins
>leftypol does raid this place though and I'd warn pol about their subversion.
SHHH idiot, the goyim can't know
Lucas Young
What's the difference between Falangism and Strasserism?
Not to mention there are anarcho-feminists posting there. Are tankie's Stalinists' BTW?
Caleb Cooper
It's national socialism that is actually national socialism.
Jonathan Robinson
yes, tankies are stalinists and the most likable natives of that board
Kayden Garcia
>the difference between Falangism and Strasserism?
Falangists were less doctrinaire about socialism per se. Being autistic about ideology is a more German proclivity.
Bentley Martinez
Little do you know Im splitting you guys up by posting revisionist propaganda!
Jeremiah Wilson
Oh yeah I completely forgot about the anfems which are genuine cancer.
Dylan Sullivan
I got pretty alienated by /leftypol/. They blatantly ignore facts related to race because of muh feels. Some of those dumb faggots even supported staying in the EU simply because right wingers were in favor of it (although not all of them). One time I literally got banned for calling immigrants scabs against the national proletariat even though they inflate the labor market and drive down wages for working class people.
Some of the tankies there are alright, although the anarchists are pure cancer and they even have an "anarcho-feminist" as one of the moderators of their board. Basically the place is cancer even though you occasionally run into a few cool people.
>What's the difference between Falangism and Strasserism?
I'm not super familiar with Falangism although I'm sympathetic. As far as I know Falangism has more of a religious orientation to it. Although both could be considered forms of "national syndicalism". One being Germanic, the other being Spanish.
Noah Fisher
>fascist socialist
>"not sure if that makes sense"
literally a nazi
>voted trump
confirmed
Charles Gomez
>literally a nazi
What's wrong with that m80?
Jace Ortiz
>Falangism has more of a religious orientation to it
Bingo. Kind of like Codreanu.
Owen Edwards
Falangist ideology originated in Spain so of course it's going to be heavily drenched with traditionalism.
Camden Diaz
What do strasserists think about hierarchy? Also, do you guys eventually want to get rid of the government like Leninists?
Joseph Thomas
Codreanu is a hero to the right. Should I read his book For My Legionairres?
Oliver Turner
You do you, autismanazi. Just don't act like you invented it.
Asher Nelson
>t. Triggered AnCap
Colton Gray
Yes, it's an amazing book and a great insight into the man. He did some really crazy shit and he drops huge truth bombs that are still relevant to this day.
Jaxon Myers
Both true. With that said, Strasserism is still plenty traditionalist, although it's more tailored to a Germanic Volk as opposed to Falangism which is tailored to the people of Spain.
Most modern Strasserists are generally opposed to economic hierarchy. Although Strasser himself was willing to keep the managerial class around, however they would only control 49% of a given company, whereas the workers would control the other 51%, essentially making those "businesses" worker owned cooperatives which would be organized into corporations through syndicalist guilds. As for governments, no a state is absolutely necessary to maintain borders, keep order and enforce the will of the nation (people). Anyone who thinks you can get rid of the state is autistic in my opinion.
Pretty much this.
Aaron Myers
Is Strasserism really all that different from Stalinism, Maoism or Juche?
Ethan Brown
>Should I read his book For My Legionairres?
I would say its an fundamental to understanding the Right as reading Mein Kampf, more so in some ways. I would also recommend Kolakowski, Mircea Eliade, and Jung's work on collective unconcious. This is more esoteric stuff, but once you get into the esoteric, you realize esoterics were core to most Right wing movements, and unified them despite economic differences.
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>Politically Incorrect Books Archive:
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>Antimony Group Right-Wing Archive
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>A challenge to conservatism
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>Nicolás Gómez Dávila
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>Mircea Eliade
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Joseph Wright
Yes, Stalinists are basically authoritarians who believe in a completely managed economy. Strasserists believe in a managed economy as well although limited democracy is allowed under Strasserism. The difference between Strasserist "democracy" and liberal "democracy" is that under Strasserism people vote on decisions they have the ability to understand. For example, it wouldn't make sense for auto workers to vote on issues related to the coal industry, or vice versa. I'm not very familiar with maoism but like all communist ideologies (including Stalinism) it's internationalist in nature, so I'm opposed to it.
As for Juche, it's a bit closer to Strasserism but still more totalitarian.
Asher Jones
Why? Do tankies offer the best banter?
The father of Falangism is José Antonio Primo de Rivera, correct? Now he died in 1936 during the Spanish Civil War. Did Franco run Spain in accordance to the intended doctrine of Falangism?
>They blatantly ignore facts related to race because of muh feels
I lurk there occasionally. It's amazing how for people that say they are against identity politics and ideologues, they are exactly those things. Their memes (if you can call them that) are cancer.
>muh spooks
Samuel Wright
So I assume this rejection of economic hierarchy doesn't mean that you guys believe in egalitarianism?
William Price
>Did Franco run Spain in accordance to the intended doctrine of Falangism?
Umm, no. He can claim legitimacy to its mantle in terms of being a consequence of it, but no. Francoism was Francoism. Very little resemblance to Falangism except in recognition of a common origin.
Thomas Cox
Thanks for the info but Stalinism and Maoism were anti-globalist. Stalin joined a Georgian Nationalist group dedicated to Georgian only socialism and Lenin and other internationalists scolded him for it and made him write a paper on the joys of internationalism. During the Great Purge, he had those same people executed and the paper burned.
Henry Taylor
>Stalinism and Maoism were anti-globalist
How do you mean? They were internationalist, and both partnered with the Rothschilds and Warburgs, so they weren't against international finance or central banking.
Hudson Bennett
>The father of Falangism is José Antonio Primo de Rivera, correct?
Correct, many people don't know that early forms of fascism have deep roots with the proletariat. Even Mussolini was a socialist before he became a fascist. One of his last allies was a communist named Nicola Bombacci who believed that fascism might be the best vehicle to achieve a workers state. He ended up getting shot with Mussolini. His last words were "long live Mussolini! long live socialism!"
>Now he died in 1936 during the Spanish Civil War. Did Franco run Spain in accordance to the intended doctrine of Falangism?
Not really, he pretty much sold out to the industrialists. Which is unfortunate.
>I lurk there occasionally. It's amazing how for people that say they are against identity politics and ideologues, they are exactly those things. Their memes (if you can call them that) are cancer.
Some of their porky memes are alright. (like the one I posted of the kike porky) but in general they're pretty autistic.
It depends on how you define "egalitarianism". Under Strasserism, the nation comes first. So I doubt that a modern Strasserist state would put foreign invaders above the national proletariat in the way that modern liberalism does.
Most Maoists and Stalinists I've met have generally been internationalists in the long run but are in favor of nationalism in the short term in order to achieve their goals of global communism. Although that's just the experiences I've had with them. I will say that Stalinists are a hell of a lot cooler than most Communists and Anarchists I've met and might actually have the potential to see the light eventually.
Nolan Cruz
When I was an anarcho-pacifist (oh boy) I didn't like tankies at all, but I have come to sympathize with them. They are on the fringes of becoming more fascist, the anarchists are much harder to reason with.
Gabriel Diaz
What are your thoughts on labor unions?
What are your thoughts on seperation of church and state?
What are your thoughts on private incentive and land ownership?
Jonathan Adams
>incentive
*investment
Ayden Myers
They're the communists that are starting to grow up. Most anarchists are idealistic children who feel edgy because they think they're rebelling against authority. I even asked one once, "what would you do if a community voted to raise it's own army, and ban minorities from it's town?". The anarchist literally said "We'd just band together and destroy them for being fascists!"
They can't see the irony in their own ideology.
>What are your thoughts on labor unions?
In favor.
>What are your thoughts on seperation of church and state?
In favor although I'm personally not an atheist.
>What are your thoughts on private incentive and land ownership?
Land ownership is fine as long as you own as much land as you and your family can work. There's no reason to own 10,000 acres if you're never going to use it. As for private property in the traditional sense, I'm opposed to it. I'm in favor of collective property.
Kayden Rodriguez
I searched around on reddit before to see how anarcho-communists would handle someone who repeatedly rapes or injures people a few months ago. Because their ideology doesn't allow them to have prisons the only answers I saw were kicking them out of the community (like that would work) or killing them. Nothing like killing mentally ill people in a non-hierarchical and non-statist manner.
Hudson Hernandez
They're pretty much idealists who are too cowardly to admit the fact that they want a state, they just want it to be a faggy little democratic state that only operates on a local level and allows niggers to run amok.
Jeremiah Price
This thread has been the best one I've seen in a long time. I must say that while I'm more of a NatSoc I'd most definitely welcome anyone who is fighting globalization to the right. Though we need to purge AnCaps (that or just let them admit they are fascists who just like guns).
Leo Martinez
Agreed bruder.
Have an SA march.
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