What is up with DC's habit of taking Marvel's trash? First they take Bendis for their comics...

What is up with DC's habit of taking Marvel's trash? First they take Bendis for their comics, and then they take Whedon for their movies. And nobody likes either of them. What the fuck are they thinking?

DC comics isn't actually good, it just isn't a dumpster like Marvel is. The DCEU is a dumpster fire with zero vision. The best they could get with the first project was Zack 'sucker punch' Snyder.

Which is weird because immediately prior to Snyder DC had Christopher Nolan. Who is amazing. So how the fuck did this happen?

I love DC, but they have a massive inferiority complex when it comes to Marvel. desu, in the past, when they brain-drain Marvel staff it works out well (John Byrne, Jack Kirby, Roger Stern, Marv Wolfman, George Perez, Priest). Bendis is gonna Bendis, but I'm hoping they kidnap Fred Van Lente and Al Ewing next, love to see what they'd do in the DCU.

>Fred Van Lente
Why? He sucks.

because DC is desperate to get even a fraction of Marvel's massive success

>and then they take Whedon for their movies.
Whedon's gone now but in any case, you're missing the business man viewpoint here. Whedon directed Avengers 1 and 2. Both were billion dollar earning films. Bendis likewise was sales ambrosia for the first 5 years at Marvel. His books sold on his name alone.

>We won't do the same thing as Marvel
>Everyone quips in Justice League, even Batman

Nolan kind of broke them because after TDK all they could think about was making more Nolan-like cape movies. And the only one who wanted to make Nolan-like cape movies was Snyder, who sucks at it.

>Didio having a say with the movies
>DC comics themselves having a say with the movies
>Implying

>immediately prior to Snyder DC had Christopher Nolan. Who is amazing
"All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again."

I'm old enough to remember Burton's Batman being about the most popular thing ever ( and this following the Superman movies from the decade before ).

Then Joel Schumacher ...

>why did dc take away marvel's highest selling writer?

That should also give you an indication about the current state of Marvel.

How retarded are people that Bendis is Marvel's highest selling writer?

This is true, but at least in Current Year Bendis's case it might have been a more strategic move for DC to let Bendis stay at Marvel. He was Marvel's big dog that they couldn't really get rid of exactly, but he was having the effect of dragging their sales down.

I like early Bendis as much as the next apologist, but his net effect was to ruin every single property he touched.

>New Avengers started out selling great!
>Longtime fans are alienated
>Franchise becomes a meaningless everyone-and-anyone team without an identity
>New(ish) fans never care about the franchise in a lasting way because there's no "there there".

>Bendis restarts the X-franchise with two books that sell better than X-books had in the previous five years.
>Alienates longtime fans because all X-characters now have interchangeable personalities and talk the same, Xavier is dead, secretly married to Mystique, 2/3s of the books deal with Cyclops being Hitler and SHIELD is necessarily a (the?) main character of the franchise.
>Six years later and we're STILL dealing with the messiness of having the original five in the current universe, doubling up on old and new versions of the characters
>X-sales absolutely crater. Was it worth it for a couple months of 100k+ sales in 2012 and 2013?

>Defenders looks like it's going to be a big deal!
>Defenders comic is goofy stuff that sells 20k if it's lucky.
>Hey wow that Alias character has a hit TV show
>Jessica Jones comic sales are lower now than they were in 2002 when she was a literal who

He's been cancer for over a decade. DC needs to contain him. He basically ruins brands and destroys franchise identity FOREVER in exchange for short-term gain

Even going back to Daredevil
>Bendis writes best Daredevil run since Frank Miller
>Several years of VERY good stories
>Character is STILL hobbled a decade after Bendis is done with him, because the "everyone knows his identity now" thing STILL threatens to be the only thing that matters.

Jack Kirby and Joe Simon left Marvel before it became Marvel and went to work for National - and then decided to set off on their own. When Simon decided he didn't want to work with Jack and wanted to do different thing, Jack eventually found his way back to Marvel where he realized that Lee had become even more insufferable about taking credit and horrid to work with/for so he went to DC. He only came back to Marvel after that because the majority of his ideas, in spite of his name and fame, didn't sell well and not well enough for the page rate he wanted/was getting, nor was he able to get enough work to support him and Roz, even with the higher page rate.

Perez is a different story where artist still frequently worked for both companies (and again, a lot of that has to do with the fact that artists get paid by the page and their is only so much work they can do at any book, especially someone like Perez - and Kirby as someone with a similar work style/productivity - who can do a lot of pages in one month). DC didn't brain drain any of these people save Byrne.

Marv Wolfman STARTED at DC.

Marvel did as much to get DC writers to work for them, such as Roy Thomas, and there were people who moved back and forth like Denny O'Neil and a classic example is Marvel hiring Jim Shooter who got his start as a kid working for DC.

In short, you're an idiot just like OP.

This shit is why I prefer to stick to movies. And I don't mean comic book movies, I just mean regular standalone movies. None of this stupid fucking baggage to keep track of. The director makes a movie for himself and that's the end of it.

>How retarded are people that Bendis is Marvel's highest selling writer?
Chad's gonna chad, user.

>Bendis likewise was sales ambrosia for the first 5 years at Marvel. His books sold on his name alone.
His Avengers sold because they added Spider-Man and Wolverine to the lineup, senpai.

Thanks for the image, I'm going to use this on Sup Forums.

Aaron was Marvel's best selling writer Bendis sales were down on his books

Don't forget aside from the bendispeak/all quips all the time there's also the issue of MASSIVE DECOMPRESSION along with ASSPULL NON-ENDINGS.
Age of Ultron, Battle for the Atom, Last Will and Testament of Charles Xavier were all retconned immediately via Time Travel Shenanigans.

Civil War II likewise had a stupid premise, an issue or two of story crammed into an entire fucking Event, and then the OP Doughnut Steel just fucks off at the end.

Defenders? The last page is a double spread of all the characters getting ready for the big bossfight ... that isn't actually going to happen!

It's not a case of "people don't like what he's doing" these days, rather it's a case of "he's literally not doing any fucking thing and taking 6 months to a year to do it in!"

>comic book guy vs movie guy

>the virgin comic book guy vs the chad movie guy

>failure vs winner

Lmao you’re retarded. Most directors do not make movies “for themselves” when working with a big studio. And >hurr durr its too hard to keep track of it all!!!!
Is stupid as fuck. No one is asking u to, just read comics you enjoy numbnuts.