Can somebody give me a watered down version of what "left vs right" wing means?

Can somebody give me a watered down version of what "left vs right" wing means?

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Left: Progressivism
Right: Traditionalism

Left is collectivism and authoritarianism, perfectly exemplified by Marxism etc.
Right is anything that is the opposite of that

Neither of those are adequate definitions. Many factions in the left are anything but progressive, and many factions of the right are not traditionalists in the least.

The real difference is Leftism is based on oikophobia, while Rightism is whatever happens to be against Leftism at any given time.

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left: smart

right: dumb

Result of divide and conquer tactics to distract us from our common enemy.

left is modern day regressivism. they don't want freedom of speech. they want segregation.

Left: government control of free market
Right: no or little control of the free market

Communists dont care

Left:savage and violent
Right:armed

Left: Equal Result
Right: Equal Opportunity

Up: Follow the Rules
Down: Take care of yourselves

No one is entirely left or right wing.

Left: WAAA! Let all those Muslims in!! I want muh ABORTIONS and I want to shove the fact that I'm a gay transexual woman on EVERYONE'S faces. Also, screw all Western religions except for Islam!
Right: Let's keep the world balanced. We're going to put restrictions on who comes in so we can keep our country safe. Abortion is literally baby murdering so fuck that shit, and I don't give a shit that you people want to fuck each other in the assholes. God created us as men and women and we can't change that.

>Right: no or little control of the free market
Explain fascism, explain National Socialism, explain the Corporatist Establishment Right of today.

Laissez-faire economics is not a fundamental characteristic of Rightism. Opposition to Leftism is.

interesting and concise perspective user

Left:
Progressivism
Collectivism
Emotional

Right:
Traditionalism
Individualism
Logical

Niggers and kikes vs. Hung and gassed

...

Left:
Collectivism and egalitarianism

Right:
Individualism and anti-egalitarianism

different sides of the same bucket of shit

He left vs right divide is polarizing the west on issues have little impact on the business interests of the wealthy (except immigration), while only allowing those who serve the interests of the wealthy to succeed. Look at America, for example. Patriot Act, NDAA, TPP, net neutrality, geopolitics, nationalism, etc. Almost all prominent politicians in both the Democratic and Republican parties have similar positions on these. The left is particularly intolerant of nationalism, but Trump is the first president in awhile who seems to be in favor of moderate, non-ethnocentric nationalism.

The only issue which impacts the wealthy and influential, and the left and the right have different positions, is immigration. Even then, all prominent politicians are in favor of immigration, albeit in differently quantities.

The left is a coalition of hippies and communists, that is to say a group of people who are pro-environmental (and in general) regulations and anti-family structure with strong support for government activism.

The right is a coalition of businessmen and traditionalists. That is to say a group of people who support policies that deregulate/empower the private economy and policies which uphold the family/traditional social structure of a nation or culture.

In US

Left: scientific
Right: emotional

Where do you put the NSDAP on your scale?

Depends on the time period.

At this moment it's Globalists and SJWs vs. Nationalists. Being a nationalist isnt bad, not matter how many times they attach the word white to it.

>left convoluted arguments like : you need illegals for cheap farm labor but you have to make themcitizens which requires that they be paid minimum wage and lets raise the federal minimum wage so that its double the current but dont worry about what we said before about needing cheap farm labor we are talking about minimum wage now

>right mostly fending off liberal faggotry : like there are not 32 genders you damn retards REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I think thats sort of backwards.

left is full of the most emotional people on earth. thus, riots about feelings.

Fascism and national socialism is economically centrist. Nazis are economically moderate.

They are on the social/traditionalist right.

Corporatist (as in corporation not corporativism) policies are a result of corruption and not much else.

> fascism
Not entirely right wing nor left wing. It's up and down. Meaning libertarian vs authoritarian. Technically it's possible for an authoritarian free market or libertarian left wing. Technically.

Fascism wherever established is and always was left wing

> national socialism
Socialism is no or little control of the free market?

> corporatist establishment right
Gee. I don't know. Maybe because government control of the free market has been growing ever since 1970s?

>Laissez-faire economics is not a fundamental characteristic of right today
nah m8 u must be smoking dank shit

Left = progressive
Right = conservative

It's from original french parliament. Where the different classes of representatives (noble/merchant) sat in the room. That's it.

It means something else now.

Left: I think this is important, you need to change how you live your life so that we can all be "better".
Right: I won't stand in the way of you or you're dreams so as long you do the same for me.
>I am biased towards the right.

Your*

I don't see right wingers looking at things objectively, things like stem cell research was traditionally blocked for ages by the right wing.

the right wing is Conservative, that means they wish to "Conserve" their traditional Values because they believe that's how it should be.

The Left is "progressive" because they wish to Progress onward in a given direction to acquire a New set of Values.

Left: Scientific and Objective (i.e. gay marriage ban doesn't make sense etc)

Right: Emotional (often religious values) and Traditionalist.

Left: Welfare, Open borders, high taxes
Right: Independence, closed borders, low taxes

Your arguments are about philosophy. Frame things economically so it actually matters. Stem cell research hasn't been a meme for the right since the 90s lol.


Its about less government vs more government, bottom line.

>oikophobia

it's a gay meme from the french revolution that has no bearing on our modern world

Classifying ideologies and policies based on the sitting order of some centuries old French conference has to be one of the most ridiculous things ever.

There is so much overlap between the values of each side. We often view militarism and limited freedom as things inherent to right-wing politics. Nonetheless, what I see happening in America, for example, is small-government republicans preaching about individual freedoms and non-interventionism, and 'left-wing' democrats advocating military interventions abroad, banning hate-speech and confiscating weapons.

Muh reductionist bong.
Fack off ya sod. Nothing progressive about discarding anything that isn't fantasyworld-tier make believe social self diagnosticism. Fags haven't JUST started fucking, you know. It's just recently they've been given air time.

There isn't a good answer ever since immigration.

These days a political party which wants high and progressive taxes, extensive welfare, unemployment rights, labor unions, free education, public healthcare, and limited immigration would be labelled right-wing, and if it wants all of that and zero immigration it would be called far-right.

Basically the Final Solution to the White Problem overrides any and all historical content of the terms right and left.

its a marathon not a sprint
conserve energy, conservatism

The left feeds the weak
The right feeds the strong

According to Wikijew

>Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy and social inequality.
>Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable.

left: pro abortion

right: anti-abortion

people try to spin it as something else but I'd say a solid 90% of people vote along abortion lines
possibly higher

The phrase right wing and left wing came from the seating arrangement in the French parliament after the revolution. The conservatives sat on the right side of the Parliament, and the liberals sat on the left side. The terms liberal and conservative, and their associated political beliefs, have changed considerably over the years; the terms right and left wing have stuck around and are still applied to these 2 groups despite this change.

because "philosophy" doesn't have anything to do with economics...

That's not true. People make financial decisions, which are often affected by their own philosophical beliefs.

What. No, it doesn't. Have you ever sat in on an econ lecture? Economics is about outdated artificial models of traders and game theory adapted to 1880's """science""".

>social justice warriors
>libertarian

THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEFT-WING AND RIGHT-WING POLITICS IS THAT THE LEFT BELIEVES IN EQUALITY AND THE RIGHT BELIEVES IN HIERARCHY. ALL OTHER DIFFERENCES FOLLOW FROM THAT.

>shouting because sometimes you have to in order to be heard over all the lolbergs, cucks, shills, and normies on here

ITT: a bunch of dummies who still think the left/right paradigm is still a useful way to describe political positions

A
GODFORSAKEN
PHOTON COLLECTION MECHANISM

This is better

Right = wealth should be concentrated in as few hands as possible, with most of the population living in poverty

Left = wealth should be distributed widely so as to promote human flourishing

That's great, except lefties literally argue that science is a patriarchal social construct

Are you implying economics, and its wide variety of schools, are all that simple?

That's a pretty gross oversimplification

Great, the special snowflake paradigm is MUCH better.

GB2T.

It means keeping the ignorant fighting amongst themselves.

>liberalism perfectly in the middle

that's like bill oreily say he's fair and balanced

You've posted several strictly false claims.
Are a fucking
and generally fuck the fuck off ya goof.

>Leftism is based on oikophobia

Fuck that - I love yogurt!

Economically, Speaking on the Model of the UK which is fairly left wing.

>Tax Low income workers less, High Income workers slightly more.

>Use taxes in an efficient manner to provide Healthcare and education to the population.

the same model can be applied for literally any Modern nation with a decent GDP.

as for the stem cell research meme, yes of course its no longer that much of a big issue because the right was completely defeated on it, well in the UK at least.

as to less Govt. Vs More Govt. Yea sure.

But I Actively advocate for Big Government, In fact I want Global Government, it is inevitable for World Peace. United Humanity can achieve much more than divided Humanity.

I also don't mean all of humanity ofcourse, there would have to be a Purge of Low-IQs.

Left: the government is good and should give you everything
Right: the government should be limited to matters of defence and justice all else is for the market to regulate

Liberalism is a mental disorder. That's all you need to know.

You're right, that needs to be swapped with Edgy Kids in the red zone

Its a far more useful tool than the one dimensional l/r spectrum

This. Left and Right in their current forms are political constructs designed to distract the people from what's happening in front of them.

I haven't posted anything about economics until I replied to that post you made

What are you talking about?

>muh freedumbs

all lolbergs should be gassed. How hard is it to understand that not all people are capable of handling that much freedom?

currently this is true.

in America, at least

Wrong. Rightwingers think the government should define and enforce so-called "property rights".

One could certainly make that point that globalism vs nationalism is more relevant today

"Liberalism" refers to "classical liberalism," not the modern common definition that most use to describe sjws, feminazis, etc

By that logic god also created gay people so it's ok.

>national socialism next to communism
>muh nazis are liberals

mfw

>implying the right doesn't stand in the way of people

No, by that logic God created man with free will and some people choose to engage in sin

It's like you aren't even trying

Your two-dimensional charts aren't much better. Political alignments have a minimum of three dimensions - we can say this based on how poorly the two-dimensional political matrices work. I'm not saying they have only three dimensions, just that three is the minimum possible.

>having more than three dimensions

I had to reply with a pic because for some reason I'm getting busted.

But that would fall under justice

The exact definitions vary by era and by country. Modern political left-right alignments are sets of views that loosely conform to sets of principles largely agreed upon by party members.

American conservatism currently values things like:
>human rights for all
>small government
>prosperity through ingenuity
>traditionalism (except where it conflicts with the above).

American liberalism currently values things like:
>human rights for the elites and protected classes only
>continued government growth
>redistribution of wealth to the least productive members of society
>government-imposition of cultural norms.

If you can't understand why conservatives believe in things like absolute freedom of speech, absolute right to self-defense by people of all races, and making abortion illegal, but liberals do not, for example, just look at the liberal views that stand in opposition: they only think human rights should be granted to a small group of elites and their "pets."

this...
left-right divide is old and inaccurate.

The classification needs more dimensions. I think the Political Compass that started this with two dimensions is onto something.

Kind of shitty to say do whatever you want but if you do this randomly unimportant thing, I don't love you anymore and you go to hell, don't you think?

What I'm saying is that if this is truly "God's plan" then fuck god he's an asshole.

I agree. The person i was replying to when i posted that used a poor interpretation of the political compass, so i used a better one. Its definitely not perfect, but it's more accurate for sure

right is when you want to have sex with your wife
left is when you want someone else to have sex with your wife

A great vid to help

youtu.be/VogzExP3qhI

Left: Freemasons
Right: Illuminati

Never understood how fascism is top right when fascists advocated autarky / protectionism

Big government vs small government

economically speaking, left generally means more controll over the economy via the state, right wing generally refers to less control in favour of a more free market.
socially speaking, left wing has generally been seen as taking a more 'preogressive' view where as right wing is more traditionalist.
both terms have become more and more vague over recent years - especially during this election cycle in which many self identidied socialist Bernie supporters voted for Trump in the name of being anti-establishment.

>communism
>liberal

Why are right wing men so obsessed with cuckoldry by men of other races? Is it because they see how much white women love them?

Yeah it should be where "nationalism" is imo

It's bullshit invented by idiots for idiots who think they can classify all possible worldviews in two, supposedly opposite, categories.

I didn't say anything about race..?