Why the fuck is friendliness with Russia a joke and its own punchline?

Why the fuck is friendliness with Russia a joke and its own punchline?

What is thr literal downside of being friendly with Russian?

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(((Who))) could possibly be upset by two white countries being friendly with each other?

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>Why the fuck is friendliness with Russia a joke and its own punchline?
we've been fighting them non-stop since the end of WWII

because le ebil putin!!!!!

>get nuked by russia

Wtf?!! drumpf!!!!

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You mean (((they))) wanted you to fight Russia

Because hurr durr communism is so bad!
1% of the population owning 99% of the wealth is CLEARLY a better system

What destroys me most is that their main arguing point is "Putin is shitty so he deserves it". No shit, he is. But he is not shitty to USA, he censors internet in Russia, jails people in Russia and fucks up Russia's economics. I'm miserable as-is, why does USA wants to pile on and ram the cock even further up my asshole? I'm not an immigrant, I don't threaten you, and you are fucking me, not Putin. Putin and his administration will be fine whatever you do to them, I won't. And I can't even vote against Putin because 1. my voice counts for shit (to anybody whining about electoral college, majority vote is ten times worse) 2. alternatives are even worse.

If USA goes to war with Russia, I get shot. If USA strangles Russia's economy, I get evicted. If USA brands Russia a totalitarian shithole, I am called a mindless slave. Fuck me.

>hurr durr communism
>leaf

"Friendly"?

More like being a total subservient bitch to Russia.

You don't reward Russia fucking with you with goddamn appeasement.

Jews own the media and use it to sway public opinion. Putin says soros is a criminal and may not be playing pall with the kike bankers, who knows. So they say he's bad.

>WAR IS BAD! THIS IS WHY BEING FRIENDS WITH ANOTHER SUPERPOWER IS BAD!

liberal logic

Well communism is shit but they're past that little angsty phase so we can be friends now.

Because cultural marxism has no place in society ruled by based white men like Trump and Putin. The lefties are having an existential crisis.

I think it has a lot to do with this.

The old guard still has memories of the cold war. They also hate socialisc/communism which is why bernie never had a hindus chance at heaven at becoming president no matter what huffpost says

>liberal lefties are now neocons

I don't really understand

>United States bombs the shit out of the Middle East
>MURRICA FUCK YEAH
>Russia annexes Crimea
>REEEEEEE FUCKING COMMIE BASTARDS

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Damn bro feel for you man

the pendulum is doing loops right now, political alignments are all over the fucking place

If you want to have a serious discussion about it, I'd be happy to.

There's nothing wrong with being "friendly" with Russia, per se, but the fact of the matter is that much of the rhetoric out of Russia over the last 40 years has been anti-American. Not all, but a lot. The danger being that they're playing us for a fool.

There are a lot of people in both our government and their government who believe the Cold War never actually ended. That it just went dormant for a while. Went underground. And that they're just waiting for the right opportunity to kick things back into gear.

The alternative argument to that is, "Well, yeah, of course it did. The goal of any nation state is to be powerful. Of course they're going to try and better their position."

My personal opinion is I hope we are able to build more friendly relations with Russia, but I wouldn't let my guard down around them. And "friendly" relations with Russia does not mean they just get to do whatever the fuck they want.

at least the right-wing is growing nationalist.
I'd say that the proles are becoming nationalist but they really always have been.

Its done for a reason, its done to hide the fact that Russia is west elite's crypto-colony, this way it wouldnt be so obvious. ((They)) excelled in this art for practising it for centuries, watch the invisible market hand in picrel

GREATEST ALLY

I know you fucks wont listen to any critisism of Trump's butt buddy Putin, but the argument is that he has been a very bad actor domestically and on the world stage. So you follow this logic through....embracing him would only embolden him to continue or escalate his shitty policies.

If you dont believe me RE: Putin, just ask your boy Pence how he feels about it. At least he doesnt have his head totally up his ass...

>Trump is 6 3
>Putin is 5 7

Anyone else looking forward to the pictures of them standing next to each other?

>giving to Egypt and ALLAHU AKBAR countries

This needs to stop

t. Southerner

Why do I want to be friends with Russia?

This is like watching Clint Eastwood talking to a chair.

>I know you fucks wont listen to any critisism of Trump's butt buddy Putin, but the argument is that he has been a very bad actor domestically and on the world stage. So you follow this logic through....embracing him would only embolden him to continue or escalate his shitty policies.
If we can benefit from it, why shouldn't we?

It's literally a bribe to not go to war with Israeli and keep their governments friendly.
A good portion of that is just secondary Israeli aid.

Would you rather us just let him keep going without any sort of resistance?

I absolutely do feel for you man. The people of Russia have been shit all over by their government forever it seems.

>MSM says Russia is evil
>Everyone falls for the meme

in a nutshell.

More nukes to level the middle east with.

>What is thr literal downside of being friendly with Russian?

Dispute over nat gas pipeline route in Syria.

My parents are lifelong southern democrats in their 60s. I asked them this the other day and they said they would never trust Russia no matter what. They weren't comfortable with potentially sending their grandchildren to die in the steppes so Hillary can save face on her emails, but they feel that anything but a hostile posture towards Russia is a mistake.

tl;dr old democrats are retarded and getting crazier in their old age

What's he gonna do? Invade Estonia? Who fucking cares?

Seriously, why are the GOP becoming such bitches of Russia?

>he censors internet in Russia, jails people in Russia and fucks up Russia's economics.
oh please, if that were true you wouldn't be posting here.

Everyone knows Putin is a bit of a shit. That doesn't mean we should wage nuclear war on him.

Sorry man. God, I'm thankful for where I live and I don't mean it in a cruel way. I had no choice in where I was born and neither did you. My heart goes out

I think the biggest hangup is liberals want some feel good "we saved lives" bs in wherever Putin would have a conquest

I honestly think the best thing would be moderate to good relations with Russia, if nothing else than becoming a formidable, stable power down the line, maybe sooner

Probably has something to do with the (ex)kgb having free reign for the last 20 some years. Russias leaders are some of the shittiest most corrupt fuckers on earth, and go out of their way to leave we have did it signs on assassination targets. Fuck russia

I would rather try to be a decent neighbor, especially to our European brothers, rather than side with an authoritarian who is shitty to his own people and his neighbors.
I fucking care, that sort of aggression is what starts world wars, friend. I would rather not be involved in a world war, be it against or on the same side as Russia

Oh right i forgot how Russian soldiers are occupying alaska and montana

Wait thats not right, theyre occupying some russian country and fighting to uphold a democratically elected governance in syria while we are arming the isis rebels.

Its not rocket science. ISIS is an acronym for islamic state in syria.

Why do you think obama was trying to get people to call them ISIL? Because any individual with any inkling of intelligence will realize "if we are at war with the islamic state in syria why are we giving weapons and support to the islamic rebels in syria?"

Unfortunately the retards have taken the reigns as our major voting block. Enjoy the next 10 years or so, we are on the same path as every other world spanning empire. Take note of rome, byzentine, japan, Germany and england. Realize that once dethroned, they never rise to prominence again.

We could have prevented it, its too late to stop it. It's happening.

not that I oppose you, but is there any actual proof of jews opposing friendliness with russians?

I agree that we shouldn't fight Russia but this post is absolutely abhorrent

Not just Democrats but many Gen Xers. They're still in a Cold War mentality where Russia is and always will be the bad guy. They can't seem to detach themselves from Cold War propoganda

Plus it's hardly extreme these days, we have a little censorship of our own here thanks to media pressure.

Anyone who trusts Russia is a total fool.

Putin will play Trump like a harp from hell.

US invaded plenty of nations m8.
Putin is not going to invade Estonia.
Cordial relations are not bad.

I dont think anyone is advocating for nuclear war friend.
>inb4 Hillary was going to start WW3
No she fucking wasnt and you know it. That shit is just as fucking ridiculous as much of the dumb shit said about Trump. No one is that dumb

The country is basically led by the mafia. Why should we give a fuck as long as they don't screw with our interests.

see flag
in any case, my 2 cents: once China kicks into 5th gear in a decade or so, USA and Russia will become allies, out of necessity if nothing else

>giving Poland 16 mils, but investing in 478 mils in Ethiopia
INVEST IN POLAND YOU FUCK

I want Israel to go full Samson Option desu

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>I would rather try to be a decent neighbor, especially to our European brothers
Our European "brothers" have betrayed their own people, and if they do anything short of a complete political reversal over the course of the next few years we should cut them off entirely before the disease spreads.

Member when we used to watch these shows in college making fun of W Bush. I wonder if they were lying to us back then too.

I think the media got to the point where they just cant bear themselves to let the bubble burst.

Its actually good, the herculean effort they are making to prevent it from bursting is gonna drain all their energy

You realize the Russians have been aggressive since before they were called Russians right? That's why European countries don't really care when they flex. Nothing can come from them unless we help instigate something

Because both sides want to expand their sphere of influence and the only way to do it is to steal that of the opposing side.
It's hard to expect both sides to give up their imperialistic ways.

They were. [spoiler]Bush wasn't stupid.[/spoiler]

don’t post this.. it’s too early for feels.

US isnt annexxing territory. When we feel the need to invade, we reach out to the international community and broadcast our intention as to keep those conflicts regional and make sure they dont escalate.

>as they don't screw with our interests.

That's the question. Where do you draw the line on our interests?

Oh the memes and LARPers "muh we're gonna rape the middle east"

>Sup Forums goes from hating communists because they defeated nazi germany to loving them because they helped trump

my sides

Its strange then how this mafia is pumping money away from Russia to the west, it seems its more complicated than that, Russia is a cryptocolony with proper administration to keep Russian under the control, Putin is driving Russia into a bitter end, disintegration and millions dead, there can only be one explanation to this - he is working for the west

>> feels bad man

Is there anything wrong with this? I'm glad they're on our side.

You don't get it. You were born in a better country.

I know nobody likes Obama on this board, but even he, if Europe suddenly started bailing on trade deals and instituting embargos, would probably think: "Am I doing something wrong?". Putin, and any other leader in our recent history, reacts the same: we are now enemies. He is proud, and would prefer economic ruin to concession, repressions to taking a few steps back, iron curtain to discussion. He was made like that by the gibbering vermin of elites and by his absolute power that nobody dares to question. Russians won't revolt; history taught them; we mistake the cold embrace of coming death for relaxed cozyness. Movement takes too much energy, it's better to curl up and wait.

Putin was a good guy once, by the way, but it's always so with proud strong monarchs.

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The downside is that Soros doesn't get to see the immense profits that a war would give him, along with knocking out the most conservative major power on the planet.

That's why Soros has fueled a second cold war for the last 8 years. Because he wants a hot one.

Then they called us all racist if we didn't vote for Obama. They said Palin said she could see Russia from her house. I was so busy with school i didn't know that was just a SNL skit. Neither did anyone else i repeated it to jokingly.

They stole the secret of the bomb and mercilessly hack us, like China, who steals economic secrets (trade secrets, patents). Why the fuck should we be friendly to niggers who steal our shit?

PROTIP: we shouldn't

>Putin is driving Russia into a bitter end, disintegration and millions dead
are you for real?

youtu.be/mEsTv5cUFg0
>git gud

Why do we even protect Israel? What benefits do we get from this? I really don't know.

I do understand when USA was against communism. It was a threat to capitalists. But now 26 years after collapse of that system and USSR what kind of ideological threat Russia could be to USA. the answer is none. We are not economicaly strong and highly depend on oil gas and metalls. So it is USA old elittes with idea fix in their heads.

>Trump is 6 3
yeah when he was young not anymore hes 70 hes shrank since he isnt even close to 6'3

>i believe lies about putin

you have to be 18 to post here

Looks like someone just lost their soros paycheck

Comrades, what is the public conversation about Trump wanting to work with you guys?

After been to Moscow and seeing how I got treated, I think this would be a good step forward.

I do understand this, believe me. But what are our other options? Should we reward Putin for shitty behavior?

Dunno. Apparently they think we will annex Burger king or something.

How does it feel to be a bitch in a land of real men?

If burgers and vodkas hate each other so bad why do we make third world non whites kill each other?

is there a time period for this cartogram?

I just hate it when a non-geographer / a person not familiar with GIS standards makes a cartogram because a bunch of necessary information is then left out.

>USA
>a white country
don't kid yourself, a state containing only 60% caucasians isn't a white country.
You can call me Achmed now to deflect from your demographic misery.

All governments and peoples should put aside their fear and differences, let the past rest, and work together towards solving our common problems...

/pipedream


But seriously, it would be nice if humanity pulled our heads out of our asses and tried something different for once.

less money for kikes

>But now 26 years after collapse of that system and USSR what kind of ideological threat Russia could be to USA.

Well I would start by reading what the people you have in charge have been writing and saying for the last 26 years. And I'd also be fearful about the deadly sin of pride among some of your leaders. Note: I'm not saying ours are immune to it, either. The concept of revenge and vengeance is a powerful thing.

It's no secret that Putin and certain oligarchs have been stealing money from the Russian people for years and years and years. I've seen some estimates of Putin's private wealth being as high as $60billion under the table. Just look up Putin's Palace on the Black Sea.

>US
>white

Ask Trump.

Trump's fine, but nobody expects much.

>not posting the gif version

Then fuck off.

The U.S. and Russia have never been friends. We've always been each other's adversary since WW2 just because your role model Uncle Putin says he wants friendly relations with the U.S. doesn't mean he has the American people's best interest at heart. Both the republicans and democrats want to take a tough stance on Russia; Donald is obviously oblivious to what is really going on at a world scale.

>ITS DA JUICE
Ebin

I dont trust him anymore, all he is doing is fucking Russia up, you are using american designed computer running american software both on this american board and your client, name one thing around you that you use and is Russian. Disintegration of Tsarist Russia is still going on, now we ve lost Ukraine and why? Because Putin did everything in his might to fuck things up, everything, now Ukraine hates Russia and it wont heal, does it make a good strategist? Perhaps, but surely not working for our side, chechnya is de facto a sultanate etc etc etc, he is going to fuck us up big time with civil wars etc, if you cant comprehend it - you are blind

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