It's not that I disagree with that OK KO episode...

It's not that I disagree with that OK KO episode, but why didn't the writers realize how retarded it is to make a "guns are bad" episode while the main character can easily buy lightsabers and flamethrower gauntlets like they're candy?

>OK KO did a hamfist "muh guns" episode
Please tell me it isn't so

t. muttistani

You know you can own guns outside of America, right?

>while the main character can easily buy lightsabers and flamethrower gauntlets like they're candy?

That's... actually a good point. The skeleton remotes didn't even actually hurt or kill anyone, they just turned people into skeletons. And yet you can walk down to Gar's Bodega and buy plainly lethal armaments any day of the week.

I don't even really mind "X is bad, mmkay" types of episodes, but if you're going to do it you have to at least try to put some fucking thought into it.

>even though this is a dream episode, the guns don't kill anybody, just turn the into skeletons
>this is presented as a bad thing even though there are already skeleton characters in this show

I think you are overthinking it, it might not be some political message

It's like the "racism is bad" episodes in a show where absolutely none of the characters have ever shown any prejudice, so they have to introduce a brand new character specifically to be racist or for one of the already existing characters to be racist towards, it just always feels awkward

It literally ends with Carol telling the audience to call their local congresswoman.

Because the entire show is trash that you’ve just accepted due to lowering your standards. You should have learned that from the art style already.

See, here's my question.

The skeleton guy, he's a hero, right?
So...does being a skeleton stop him from being a hero?

Simple. Bones are white, and a white heroes are big no-no nowadays

So is he a villain then?

No, ARMS is a hero.

But guns are bad

Alright, cool.

So - if he can still be a hero, even though he's a skeleton - How is the skeleton remote supposed to do anything other than increase local xylophone sales?

Yeah, but no-where else outside of Africa and the middle east, are massacres considered a blasse thing that just happen. I can't blame any American show for doing it because of how fucking horrific this shit is. America is fucked. Half the people benefit from it being fucked, the other half are to afraid to change it.

light sabers and flame throwers arent mass murderers weapon of choice unless you live in the star wars universe

Reminder that this episode was LITERALLY a dream in the mind of an immature 6-11 year old boy.

Skeleton remotes were apparently a real thing though in universe and can be implied to work exactly how they do in his dreams somehow because KO is a prophet.

Also every single car you see has gun all over them.

But isn't this how......every kids show does a racism episode?

And all those episodes felt awkward.

And they’re all awful too.

Pretty much, some new guy shows up and joins the heroes but is a total dick to one of the characters

They'll DECREASE xylophone sales. No one will buy a beautifully hand-crafted xylophone if they can just take a couple of sticks and play their ribcage instead.

This is the worst thing to happen to homey music.

the writers literally said on twitter it was about that.

It's a comedic cartoon. when a comedic cartoon tries to teach the audience a lesson about the real world, it doesn't mean the same lesson is going to apply in the fantasy world they live in.

It all makes sense now!
People slowly buying fewer and fewer xylophones, until no one owns one at all! That's EXACTLY what it's like! It's the exact same as that terrible recent tragedy where 17 children were brutally murdered!

Are you the subhuman israeli furfag? If so, all your opinions are discarded.

comedic cartoons shouldnt try and teach messages the creators arent aware enough to understand

>our audience is primarily children who have no understanding of the nuances of the issue
>let's make a hamfisted badly-constructed allegory that tells them what to think

>episode was probably made months ago
>people think it's a response to recent events

I'm israeli, but i'm not a furry or a "subhuman".

Why does the show keep doing this? At least the Captain Planet one was a crossover so it was pretty justifiable, but it keeps throwing in weird political and social messages. When it probably is the most inappropriate show to do so, it is just meant to be the silly loose canon video game show. But then all of a sudden poorly thought out racism analogy. It is like they want to parody the old 80/90s cartoon PSAs, but at the same time are giving the exact same message that the boarders admit they are seriously making.

KO just kinda feels inconsistent and uncontrolled. That is good if you have a lot of talented people, but the quality of episodes is a roller coaster here

Can we talk about the episode where Beardo turns out to be a muscle goblin?

>Those height relations
KO is supposed to be tiny but here he's taller than the shelves. This show is in desperate need of some quality standards.

but user you can recognize the character and that's enough

Sauce?

I didn't like this episode of Steven Universe either.

Weapons don't do much damage and when they do, it's mostly to their surroundings. Any bodily harm is reversible. Turning someone permanently into a skeleton against their will is a pretty nice in universe anology that's innocuous enough.

The "fucking millennials!" answer is that smug, poorly-constructed sermonizing is fashionable among people the age of the creators of this show.

holy fuck this show is hideous

>smug, poorly-constructed sermonizing is fashionable among people the age of the creators
You forgot the most important part, irony. If you make a poorly constructed message on purpose then it doesn't matter, the message is the only part which matters and the only thing that defines something. You can't talk about quality because everything is valid, it doesn't matter how well integrated the point or themes are just what side you are supporting. This extends to most of the show's issues

>Replace skeleton remotes with actual guns
>KO fends off Mr. Gar and Neil with a shotgun
But I can see why they might not have been allowed to show a kid slinging real heat.

As opposed to the subreddits you visit? You still are a subhuman.

Ironicly turning everyone into a skeleton would stop super villains. No more evil robots and no more evil powers. But if you take away all the guns people will just start killing each other with knives I mean duck look at the UK. In Scotland Knife related crime is so big it has its own special knife attack called the Glasgow smile. You need an ID to buy knives over there. Take away the guns and you’ll just see people find more cruel ways to kill each other.

Ive seen this so many times an Im done..whats the source of this? who is this animu girl?

The people working on this grew up in the 90's too where that moral shit was unbearable. I doubt any of them were actually persuaded not to do drugs because Jem had a special on it.

Do people really not remember what it was like growing up? When they started to think about things or what they hated in cartoons? Because like, kids aren't saved by pedos because Sonic gave them good advice. It's usually the parents, a real life horror story they learn early on that freaks them out, or something they learn into their teens at which point a moral episode in a cartoon has failed to reach them at the opportune time.

It always baffles me how adults make cartoons what they THINK kids want to see... As if they never had a childhood themselves.

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Don't worry 8-year olds. You can help with gun control issues by writing to your local congressman. They'll totally take you seriously and not chuck your letter in the garbage!

>most shooters get their guns illegally
that's false tho

>nowhere else

You forgetting about all the muzzie attacks in Europe? All that lovely "cultural enrichment"?

>tfw you will never go from a Newgrounds nobody to a professional voice actor on TV

ok ko is garbage. Seemed pretty obvious.

Is it just me or do you need to be a retarded Democrat/Liberal/Leftist to work in entertainment media? Cartoons are just one type of media.

at this point in time it seems being a libtard is the safest option. otherwise you probably would get blacklisted.

>no-where else outside of Africa and the middle east, are massacres considered a blasse thing that just happen

By the way, nobody's talking about the episode anymore, and this entire discussion is off-topic.

*blocked*

>Turning someone permanently into a skeleton against their will is a pretty nice in universe anology that's innocuous enough.
No, it isn’t. One of the heroes of the plaza is a walking talking skeleton.

Because cartoons involve artists, and being an artist kind of inherits the many liberal traits such as freedom of speech, acceptance, equality. The whole "starving artist" aspect which makes artists despise the rich (Until they sell gallery pieces for hundreds of thousands). Plus these cartoon artists live in big cities... And usually the same big cities all within California, creating an echo chamber.

Like, I don't think there are many artists out there going, "Yeah! Censorship is awesome!".

Pretty sure that's a matter of perspective.

That's the weirdest part.
Like, it's supposed to be this terrible thing, being a skeleton, yeah?
For one, it doesn't seem like it's stopped ARMS from being a hero.
Secondly, how do you suppose that makes him feel? He doesn't seem to be ashamed of who and what he is. Are they saying that it's a bad thing to be, well, like him? That he should want to not be a skeleton, even though that's who he is?

>"Part and parcel of living in a great global city is you’ve got to be prepared for these things, you’ve got to be vigilant, you’ve got to support the police doing an incredibly hard job. We must never accept terrorists being successful, we must never accept that terrorists can destroy our life or destroy the way we lead our lives."
You know, when you read it in full, it sounds exactly like what a conservative would say...

Wait, is that brawl taunts Kirbopher? he didn't try to distance himself from that?

Runka-chunk was a good 2B tho

So the answer is to address mental health issues that affected people like the recent school shooter!
...Oh we’re making this a gun problem. Okay then.

Rewrite
>Gar is the voice of reason in this episode
>Gar signs a new shipment in for a new product, called the skeleton remote, thinking it'll make the plaza safe from baddies
>Everyone is gung ho about the skeleton buttons, because it makes fighting baddies easier
>Mr. Gar's surprised when no ones cautious about using the remotes
>It gets worse as all the younger characters are showing off their skeleton buttons, that some didn't even buy, like it's cool and not for war/defense
>Daryl comes into the Plaza with a skeleton button and the shoppers take their's out, but accidentally shoot each other trying to aim for him.
> Now the majority of people are skeletons
>Skeletons can't use the buttons, so what's the point?
>Mr. Gar decides that getting money off of people's foolishness isn't worth it, and it won't make him any better than Lord Boxman
>Pics related is the ending

Why would I care what a conservative would say?

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I don't watch this show, but was the supporting character that's already a skeleton featured anywhere in this episode?

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Well, FBI agents don't watch cartoons, so the message wouldn't really reach them.

Yup.
It actually set up one of the few gags in the episode.

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>but was the supporting character that's already a skeleton featured anywhere in this episode?
He sure was. They even made a (I have to admit, somewhat funny) joke about how it does nothing to him.

Like I said, it's perspective. He's closer to the screen than the shelves so of course he looks bigger.

He was never implied to be any kind of goblin, he is clearly a blue oni,he's just from goblin country. Oni are a type of youkai which can also translate to goblin but does not mean the same thing in English but is rather a general term for monster.

Look at the red line.

Look at the extended shelf drawing off to the sides. If KO were to walk to stage-right and the camera panned over, it would reveal those off-screen lines which would showcase KO as being just as tall as the shelves.

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Isn’t the definition of insanity doing the same thing and expecting a different result?
Why would anyone think this is the scenario that will bring an end to gun violence, especially when you actually read up on the shooter.

>kids show does a racism episode?
can i have examples? i can't think of any unless it's mid 2000s canadian shows or stuff from the 80s and 90s that's basically after school specials and not kid shows

So it's just shit writing, got it.

>quoting subhuman like you're unable to type it of your own free will or know what they mean when they say it

Does this guy know that one of the boarders drew a character using a gun as a joke drawing?
Kind of getting mixed signals there.

Deflecting and trying to lump some random politician into your conservative bogeyman for going against your narrative does not change the fact that you were in the wrong, nor does it mean your opinion is any less uninformed than you are.

No, he's certainly shorter, especially since he's up on one foot. If anything, the top of his head would just reach the bottom of the third shelf.

nik, please

Cause it's the most short-sighted and easy solution to physically look at with your eyes. Kind of like how soccer moms used to think the solution was banning violence on TV and video games.

Prohibition didn't stop people from getting alcohol. Marijuana bans don't stop people from getting weed. Boston marathon bombing involved no guns. Fucking 9/11 terrorists used tiny knives, pepper spray, and threats to get what they wanted.

People find a way. The only prevention is to lock them up when you're tipped off twenty times before they have a chance to do something. I have no idea why anyone thinks, "Ban guns" is the instant peace-bringing solution.

>liberal traits
>freedom of speech
lolwut

so-called liberals love to abridge the liberty of people they disagree with

>No, he's certainly shorter, especially since he's up on one foot.
No he's not. He has one foot up, but the other foot is flat on the ground. He isn't on his tippy toe or his heel.

Like, I don't know what to tell you other than you're objectively wrong. You can't get any clearer than a picture with a grid showing perspective.

>Isn’t the definition of insanity doing the same thing and expecting a different result?
While I agree with you in principle, this instance I disagree simply because I always found it to be baffling.

>flip a coin
>it comes up heads. Now you know that coin will ALWAYS land heads; expecting a different result for the same action would be insanity!
>go to a casino
>roulette wheel comes up on 34 red
>"ALL ON 34 RED!"
>Now you're a millionaire!
>Well, the first time I tried to learn to play baseball, I was terrible!
>I should never practice ever again, because if I did it again and expected things to go differently, that'd be CRAZY!
>playing video game
>"K guys, let's try to take that objective."
>fail to capture point
>"well guys, we tried, we can never take that point. every time we go, we're just not going to succeed. They've won, clearly!"

I said nothing about conservatives being right or wrong, my point was that Sadiq Khan's actual statement was a very milquetoast call for being prepared for potential future terrorist attacks, not being blasé about them.

You're comparing repetitive (Usually predictable) human behavior to random chance gaming though with constant varying elements.

A more accurate comparison would be like if you were to start a new game of Pokemon Red every time and expect you to NOT be in Pallet Town every time you started up or that one of the first wild Pokemon you run into being a Pidgey or Rattata. That would be insanity.

That still does not make your previous statement any less incorrect.

The point is that sometimes, you CAN expect a different result from the same action, if the result can, well, change even with the same action. Which it entirely can in many instances. The phrase isn't great advice because it is simply stating that static things are static.

Like it matters. It's a really quick shot as he's swinging a sword around so that sort of thing didn't even matter. This really isn't worth bitching about.

KOfags BTFO

>is the instant peace-bringing solution
Only people looking for retweets think that. Banning guns (in a theoretical situation where that is even possible) would make it harder for shootings like these to occur, most of these school shooters lack the knowledge to get them illegally and it is much harder for them if they did.

But really it doesn't solve the real issue, that america has huge cultural problems that they want to blame everything but themselves for, It is always the other race, party, idiotic conspiracies or new media because no one actually cares about dealing with the situation when it is such a useful political tool

>A more accurate comparison would be like if you were to start a new game of Pokemon Red every time and expect you to NOT be in Pallet Town
See even in this result, it can change. It's unlikely (but possible) the game simply won't boot. Or the cartridge might not be seated correctly, the contacts dirty, and can cause a corruption that causes you to start in some weird glitchy hell hole.

>Get proven wrong
>NOT LIKE IT MATTERS

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