At what point did we stop getting cool action cartoons like Godzilla the series , or Men in black...

At what point did we stop getting cool action cartoons like Godzilla the series , or Men in black, which had that cool kinda rough comic book-like aesthethic ;and started getting horribly written flash abominations? It was around 2005 right? Did the end of fox kids had anything to do with that?

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Yeah it sure seems like cartoons used to be more action oriented at the end of the 90's

Fox and the WB stopped giving a shit. That and anime.

...but anime aroubd that time was also action oriented?

It died around 2008 officially, because even Ben 10 had animation like that. It was around 2010 that simplistic animation started to become preferable thanks to shows like Adventure Time.

>they're replacing the Heisei statue with a Shin statue

I think he means that the quality of action animation in Japan generally went up over time and the studios of the West lost the motivation to compete

>thanks to shows like Adventure Time.
Pretty much this, adventure time stood out thanks to the fact that at that point CN was didn't have anything interesting, so the result was everyone trying to copy that pastel colours bullshit

Wait, what? But it was on my bucket list to visit that statue...

It became easier to import action shows from Japan than to make them from scratch.

Fox and WB kinda had a monopoly on all these IPs and used the cartoons for brand recognition and to sell them to other networks, however it is more cost efficient to get a cartoon from other country licensed.

In a way anime did kill the interests that most corporations had in action cartoons, comedy (SpongeBob effect) and sitcom cartoons started to rise until action comedy and parody became a thing, then AT rose in popularity and folks started to make their own AT.

Sadly this phenomenon not only happened here Japan also had its own hiccups with success that started with LN success wich started on the multimedia phenomenon that was Haruhi wich gave an unprecedented boom to LN as a medium and eventually piked in the early 2010s were it is easier to make an Anime add of a shitty LN to boost its sales than to sell the Anime itself.

As a result quality in general took a big fucking drop since most LN writers are either a bunch of WN hacks without any writing formation that have their abominations turn readable by their editors or genuine retards who rely on a gimmick and pandering but fall apart harder than Bleach given that they never had a plan when they started writing.

We are getting their works dubbed now because it's a cheap add for books that can be used to up the volume of a streaming site library.

They are moving the statue somewhere else, you can still see it.

Godzilla TAS had some unexpectedly great kaijus, and even gave Zilla a waifu.

>Fox and WB kinda had a monopoly on all these IPs and used the cartoons for brand recognition and to sell them to other networks, however it is more cost efficient to get a cartoon from other country licensed.

Do you ever wonder if this is what caused the studios to eventually decline to the point where Fox's stuff is going to be bought out by Disney and people think if AT&T doesn't buy out WB then it may get broken up? For instance WB not doing much with their own IPs other than Scooby-Doo and Batman let the other stuff languish.

fuck japan and their shit taste

Third nuke when

Kim Jong Un is working on it.

wait, really? didnt remember that. man i love godzilla tas.

>Fox and WB kinda had a monopoly on all these IPs
Though disney tried to compete with shows like Buzz Lightyear of star command and the Tarzan animated series

the statue is being moved inside of the building at least

It still makes me angry, that statue is a legend of a motherfucking legend, it's twice as blasphemous as just putting a statue honoring mediocrity.

Partially, there is also the fact that streaming made selling airing rights to networks in America harder, most of the peripheral money comes from third word countries buying airing rights or from stuff like old boomerang or Tooncast wich is shuffling old IPs on a network that runs entirely on nostalgia.

Ironic now, I wonder how will this work for IPs that were owned by fox but published by Dark Horse, Disney really has the monopoly now and could potentially decide what is popular now with only anime fads and WB properties as direct competition with nick as a dark horse in the cartoon race.

I won't believe you, I CAN'T believe you!!!

>edgelord google eyes mcshrivlearms is the definitive Godzilla to Japan
>best and most iconic design that everyone thinks of when they hear the word Godzilla is thrown to the wayside by it

I am actually mad. How long until we get Japanese children complaining whenever there is a movie where Godzilla isn't an edgy light show?

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This episode was miles betters than final wars, fite me you weaboo cunts

You Can (Not) Undo.

Yeah I think there has been a decline in both US and Japan, in regards to producing original animated works for television.

I blame kids being fed estogen filled diets. Look at how freaky tall kids are now. Growth plates are fusing later because of lower test.

I know next to nothing about Godzilla lore but didn't the Japanese hate the 1997 movie and say it was a fake Godzilla but actually like the series and the Godzilla in it? I'm sure I heard that somewhere.

Yes, apparently.

You do know the estrogen in soy is plant estrogen, right? It doesn't interact in the same way with human biology as mammal estrogen does.

Good, Heisei was the worst era and Shin is top 3.

You fucking manchild.
Most episodes were better than Final Wars. Final Wars was shit.

Those sorts of action shows were immensely popular in the early to mid 90s. (X-men, Spider-man, Batman, Superman all had multiple season shows). In the mid-2000s, they began to die out but it didn't seem like ratings were the issue for them. I think the shows became too expensive. We don't have any animation on TV now that's like those early 90s comic book shows.

>I think the shows became too expensive
Pretty much. It was just the next step of those older, much more merchandise driven shows. Instead of an original toy property, they were part of a larger license that could bounce off each other. Toys that sell the shows that sell the movies that sell the shows that sell the toys. But for one reason or another this stopped being as much of a thing in the mid-2000's, not the least of which seems to be major channels dying out or stupidly rebranding and places like CN being almost incapable of properly managing a multimedia property like they used to.

t. Brainlet

>they began to die out but it didn't seem like ratings were the issue for them
A little bit of this really, some of those action shows that wasn't always Marvel or DC relied or wanted to rely heavenly on merchandise sells and those alone weren't doing too good.
>We don't have any animation on TV now that's like those early 90s comic book shows.
I mean you still can do really well animated shows but be prepard to fund it yourself and not rely on networks to back you up or advertise your show.

>thinking Shit Godzilla is anywhere close to Godzilla 85, Godzilla VS Biollante or Godzilla VS destroyah

I still remember when Dragon Ball Z and TMNT2003 were both airing on cartoon network in the middle of the day and that was normal. That was kind of the last hurrah for action cartoons as the norm in the west.

>It was around 2010 that simplistic animation started to become preferable thanks to shows like Adventure Time.
No it was before Adventure Time/Regular show. It was when Chowder, Grim adventures of Billy and Mandy and Flapjack started airing on Cartoon Network in place of previous mentioned action cartoons.

>I think the shows became too expensive. We don't have any animation on TV now that's like those early 90s comic book shows.
This is probably closer to the truth than I'm comfortable with, just look what happened when Cartoon Network tried to revitalize action cartoons with the Thundercats/Sym Bionic Titan/Young Justice block that aired Friday nights. Thundercats kind of bombed because it was still treating itself like a little kid's cartoon, even though airing at primetime and having high production value, and Cartoon Network admitted they didn't like how much it cost to make high quality shows like Sym Bionic Titan and Young Justice. It was painfully hilarious how obvious they were trying to kill all these shows as well, with the higher ups constantly re-arranging the time slots to kill the high viewership. Young Justice still kept winning in ratings to, even when they reran the episodes.

Yes, the animated series corrected virtually everything the 98 film did wrong unrelated to his actual design.
> Grew more invulnerable overtime.
> Atomic blast.
> His personality became something akin to Showa Godzilla mixed with the Hanna Barbera one. No more running like a bitch from helicopters.
> Put the annoying blonde reporter in the backdrop and pushed Nick & the redhead.
> Nick became a genuinely cool lead character.
> Show did some good character interactions with the cast that the movie didn't have time to do.
> Gave us a ton of unique original monsters a few were inspired of course by mothra/rodan and such but one like pic related was completely original and looking at it now I think may have inspired the Cloverfield monster.

Test

I remember watching Godzilla TAS and then watching power rangers time force

My childhood was great

Pacific Rim would make a great Saturday morning cartoon.

That'd make my dick ROCK. HARD.

Probably

If it was on netflix, because otherwise the animation would be some flash abortion

You just sent me on a nostalgia trip with time force.

Fuck man, I felt compelled to sing the opening.

>You fucking manchild.

Sir, this is Sup Forums that is the textbook definition of anyone old enough to post here.

del Toro wanted to make it happen by 2017 but it never got off the ground

Action cartoons never went away you mogoloids, they just became less profitable. The mainstay brands that are guaranteed to sell toys or are paid for by movies will keep being around, you know, like Godzilla was and MIB

All of these shows exist as promotional tools, get over it.

>Action cartoons never went away you mogoloids
That was never the point you imbecile, OP was just pointing out how they were the majority of cartoons before

The vast majority of anime have always been adapted from existing stories in other mediums.

>That was never the point you imbecile, OP was just pointing out how they were the majority of cartoons before
Not really, or do you suffer from dementia? There were just as many comedy shows in the late 90s and 00s, they just weren't very popular and that's because most of them sucked (going into the 00s at least) and the reason action cartoons were so much more popular was because of Toonami popularizing anime. But you had plenty of comedy oriented shows, most of which are extremely beloved on this board, like EEnE, Powerpuff, Fairly Oddparents, Spongebob, Dexter, etc

Even TMNT and Transformers' upcoming cartoons are in the 11 minute episode format. So's JLAction. Apparently the powers that be feel that even an evergreen franchise can't sustain a 20+ minute show.

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Why is everything 11 minutes now?

Cheaper and more advertising between shows.

>and even gave Zilla a waifu

Didn't it end with a brutal divorce?

Their love was too pure.

I thought they were fighting to know who would keep the kids.

They realized that kids attention span isn't high enough to enjoy properly anything longer. That way they can make it cheaper and still claim the shekels.

Well, TTG gets good ratings. Blame kids then.

>more test = shorter height
Manlets eternally coping

>Apparently the powers that be feel that even an evergreen franchise can't sustain a 20+ minute show.
No, it's just that that sells better and toy companies are trying to figure out where they fit in there.

If you're so upset about your favorite action shows being cancelled, you should have bought more merchandise, because that's what funds it.

>Not just making a second statue to compliment it

Fucking Japan

I liked this show as a kid but I didn't care for MiB at all. Don't like the movies either.
Extreme Ghostbusters is where it was at, yo.

Tell me more about this female companion.

Pheromones, backstabbing cunt.