Calexit

So realistically what do you think would happen if California seceded?

I'm assuming everyone who is right wing in California would move almost immediately to Nevada

The first day of California being independent they would probably ban guns legalize weed and probably put a white man tax

I believe after that Mexico would try to invade them seeing as we probably wouldn't help them after the secession

Eventually before California is completely taken by Mexico they would probably come crawling back to us

Hopefully we would then make a deal(that California would have to adhere to like mandatory guns or something) except California back into the union after we drive out Mexican soldiers

I'm hoping after then we split California into 5 states

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It'll be obliterated by earth quakes and would be used like a real world version of Escape from LA

If California seceded, it would be the happiest day for 90% of America, and northern Cali would break off, becoming Jefferson, replacing California as the 50th state

Massive military retaliation, secession is forbidden.See: American Civil War.

President will build wall and call Snake Plissken to save his youngest daughter from that hell

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>I'm assuming everyone who is right wing in California would move almost immediately to Nevada

Yeah, because moving from a place where shit can grow to a barren desert hellhole is for everybody.

I'm pretty sure it would be conquered quickly.

There would never be a Democratic president for the rest of eternity. Do I need to bring a shovel to help dig the trench?

>IF california succeeds
We already fought a civil war over states secession rights. Its not gonna happe. user, not withlut another civil war and all those la and san fran cucks arent gonna fight a war

Most likely scenario:
>Nothing
Because secession is illegal and any elected official who put that proposition to vote would be charged with treason

Dream world where they actually secede without winning a Civil War:
>Conservatives move to Nevada
>anyone who wants to keep their citizenship moves to other states
>Corporations that want to keep using US infrastructure, intelligence, tax codes, trade agreements, etc. move to other states (Oregon most likely)
>Everyone working for those companies moves too
>US military completely withdraws all equipment and personnel to the California-US border
>California forced to buy water from the US
>California forced to buy aide from the US every time they have a drought, wild fire, earthquake, etc.
>Hollywood responsible for footing the bill for everything

They'd throw themselves into poverty. No way companies like SpaceX are going to stay in CA when so much of their business relies on US defense intelligence and cooperation with NASA. Apple isn't going to want to deal with huge tariffs on their products.

The entertainment industry is the only group of people stubborn enough to stick around while all the businesses with shareholders and strong US ties flock away.

Libtards will not take away our western shipping ports

Try moving them to Canada

No more water for California.

>California leaves the US, EVERY election goes Republican in US.
>Military spending tops 5% GDP.
>California invaded.

Republicans will never ever lose again.

OH YA!

Instant check mate!

>So realistically what do you think would happen if California seceded?
It won't happen, so there is no sense in thinking about it.

Piss off Yankee. Might doesn't make right. If they want to live in a marxist fantasy land that's their buisness.

As long as I'm left out of it, I don't care what they do.

>india street shitter payed for 4chanpass
>hopes we will gain some respect
POOO IN THEEEE GODDAMN LOO

It's literally against the law to leave the union.

If they tried to they'd have to forma militia and force the US out.

California isn't the the US, the US is in California and there's nothing they can do about it without starting a war.

Pepe silvia! We've finally found him!

Everyone who is right wing would lobby to keep the state of Jefferson and say fuck you to the south

All these asshurt libcucks who want to secede from the union fail to realize that:
>We don't have guns, and the guns that we do have are cucked by our stupid gun laws
>We have no water, unless they build massive desalination plants and the infrastructure to support it, its not happening
>We are massively in debt and that will not be rectified anytime soon

And lastly, California has key military installations and port access that is year-round, no way the United States would give those up.

ok, there is a difference between a Federation and a Confederation. In a Confederation, States or provinces are bound by contract with the opportunity to leave the Union in case the social contract they sign is not convenient for the State or Providence via referendum. In other words, they can secede if the contract allows them. A good example is Canada with Quebec is my memory doesnt fail and the USSR when the states decided to secede like Ukraine under Gorvachev. In a Federation, once you sign to be part of the Union, you can not get out of the contract. You are bound to the Union, and if in case they want to get out... the Army will go and put order in the city. We fought a Cilvil War because some States tried to do the same shit.

6 Californias is the real answer. No reason to punish all the sane people in the state.

>Poo actually bought Sup Forums pass

Hahahaha DESIGNATED

You think that CA can just leave the US like it's the damn UK or something?
Ask the south how that went for them.
More likely the state will split into north and south CA.

spitting california up into differnet states is a good way to turn so-cal and anywhere else that isn't silicon valley into a shit hole

They like to tote about how great their economy is but if they seceded; they wouldn't be under the same trade agreements as the US. Furthermore the US wouldn't let them trade with anyone so their economy and infrastructure would collapse and they would be begging to be let back in
>muh stronk california

This. California is literally pulling the US economy. If they go out, the US will fail. They would never ever let that happen

>The US will fail

No they wouldn't. California has a good economy but not so good the US tanks without it. If California peacefully seceded (not gonna happen but let's pretend) California would fail.

The US would hurt for a few years but it's nothing NYC and the remaining big cities can't compensate for. Plus you get all the people and companies that bail out of California to remain part of the US.

It's much more beneficial for a company to remain part of the US and continue operating "business as usual" than take a gamble working for a brand new country and being subject to US sanction.

You;re an idiot, you can make seccession illegal, and make it require a war, but no americans are going to shoot other americans over california leaving. The most realistic thing that would happen would be they figure out a way to leave, cut all ties with america, then come back after half their population is obliterated by having no water for a day.

Seriously, everyone thats not a democratic liberals understands that californian liberals have no idea about the gravity of what they think they want. What I think would be the best course of action would be cutting all supply to and from the state, money, food, water, power, and then say that WHEN they come back, their electoral votes will be temporarily removed for 16 years, and the state will have their government removed and will be indefinitely replaced by the US government, because they will destroy their state if left to it.

Cali's going to be in receivership pretty soon. When that happens, expect a Fed takeover with associated recovery of assets - such as the off-shore petroleum they currently won't drill for.

The Sacramento valley produces a lot of food, and all the south's water comes from the North.
We'd be just fine up here without the south.

should of used your fake rubies to buy a toilet with proper plumbing. Buy hey, you can use the street in your neighbors house.

I lean a little to the left most times but I'm smart enough to realize that succeeding from the union is a bullshit idea.
It was when the south tried to do it
It was when Texas talked about it
It still fucking is.

Whenever anybody here actually brings it up semi-seriously I just mention one word, Water. That shuts them right the fuck up.

>no americans are going to shoot other americans over california leaving
You don't understand how secession works.

A landmass can't "leave" anything.

The United States is in (the landmass) California. To secede you need to force America out.

So it's not a question "We're leaving, please pack your things and go" it's "We don't want you here anymore and we're going to force you out"

If California secedes all the US is going to do is say "that's cute" and ignore them. If they want to be independent they'll have to fire the first shot. The US won't even humor the idea until they do.

See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fort_Sumter

>States secede between December 1860 and Feb 1861.
>Nothing happens until the Confederate forces attack the US Military in April 1861

An independent Commiefornia is doomed. In the unbelievable case the US of A don't rape the fuck out of them during a "Civil War" (if a libtard child's tantrum can be called like that), their so called "muh fifth place in world's GDP" is gonna vanish quickly than their water reserves. The poverty will transform this state in some giant Tiruana shithole, without the fun bits.

Cali's already done fore, everyone there is going to die in an earthquake caused by gods wrath, well unless you voted for trump

>california goes down the shitter due to unchecked socialist policies
>mass exodus of californians to the remaining states of the US
>where they continue to vote for the socialist policies that ruined california

you realize california imports all its water and electricity right?

Texas could actually do it though.

Texas has all it's own water, all it's own oil and natural gas.

If they separate from you and callexit happens what would happen with the economy and national debt? What part of the national debt they will take :D:D?

Everyone with any money or brains would move out, because they'd see what's coming.

California's beloved economy would suddenly be significantly smaller than they'd anticipated.

Now, reverse your thinking: who needs Texas' water?

This. They'll just think...
>Well Cali failed. We'll just try it again somewhere else

Cali has water too though from the mountains, and they can survive on grapes, and using organic dogshit and aborted fetuses as fuel

There's no way the US gives up the oil though.

Even the Texan companies drilling the oil will want to remain in the US for the trade benefits.

That's the problem with secession. The only way a state could "make it" is based off of some fantasy idea that the US will ignore it's own interests and Corporations are willing to put blind faith in an untested Government.

It's pure fantasy to think any single State could leave the union and survive on it's own

States don't have a right to secede. If they do so, they'll get their shit pushed in.

>ameridumb edumacation

I hope they do, then they can import all the nigger refugees they want and they will all be destroyed

this

the military would exterminate the non 67% non-trump voterbase for the national security of the empire which extends from east to west touching all oceans that mattered

The Jefferson thing wouldn't happen. Southern California has heavy investments in the very lucrative farming industry that the state has, and a huge amount of water supplying those crops comes from the Sacramento River & associated lakes (Lake Shasta being the big one).

There is NO WAY on earth that a seceded California would allow its water supply to break off and do its own thing, and supply water on any terms other than what the South dictates.

North Cal would plead for the USA federal government to step in to help, and to give So Cal the middle finger I'm pretty sure they would. At which point we have a goddamned mess happening before Jefferson is declared and stable.

Caltroit.

we need to meme CalExit into reality

It wasn't REAL socialism

if california secedes so does texas

The south has no power over us, we have the water and the guns.

Kek willing we would make it fall into the ocean!

We already banned guns and legalized weed here. I'll move to America, but I'm guessing San Francisco will start the state's new currency then work to wrest control from Sacremento. LA is basically Mexico City so they're completely out as far as having any political pull, unless feral stray dogs and rigged election as important to the banks in some way.

The state is primarily tech & agriculture. Manufacturing & even military contractors have been leaving the state for 15 years now. The only businesses will to stay in that capacity are paid to stay. So they are unprepared for the war to come.

AND THERE WILL BE WAR. The California coast is of profound military importance. There are naval and air force bases all over the state so no one is going to let these leftists go "Yeah, we bussed in a bunch of illegals to vote multiple times and it still didn't help so fuck you we are own country now. Thanks for all the warships and planes!" No way especially with this President. The war itself ought to be interesting. I'm guessing the only ones who will put up a fight are the spics. Nignogs will run like rabbits at the first sight of an army. They'll probably go to the white gated communities to rape and steal while the Mexicans will form a significant force that will die. The history books will indict the US of course because what else will they do? Admit that the Democrats wanted a permanent underclass by ballot stuffing with foreigners from socialist 3rd world shitholes?

Besides the war would be a few cities against the rest of the US. The few remaining Californians will rise up against the new Peoples Republic of California. Maybe the cops too. So the left would be left with Silicone Valley nu-males, and criminals to fight on the side of Calexit.

I'm hoping the illegals are driven out and nationwide Voter ID is put in place. Then this state becomes a battleground state in 2 to 4 years like it was not too long ago before the Mexican invasion.

hope they dont get the chance and instead are rocked by mega quakes that slide that sack of shit right off into the ocean desu.

WILL TEST SOMETHING


>AVERAGE POPULATION OF USA STATES
5646807

>AMOUNT OF ELECTORAL VOTES PER POPULATION
2 + ( (1 per 565166 citizens) rounded up always)

>565166 COMPARED WITH AVERAGE STATE POPULATION
9.99 (lets say 10 to simplify stuff) times less the average state population.

ASSUMING EACH COUNTY WILL BE AN STATE

>AVERAGE CALIFORNIA COUNTY POPULATION
674910

>ELECTORAL VOTES PER STATE
2 + (( 1 per 67491 citizens) rounded up always)

>CURRENT ELECTION RESULTS
27 "points" for hillary on almeida county
3 for hillary on alpine county
3 for trump on almador county
6 for trump on betty county
3 for trump on cavaleras county
3 for trump on colusa county
19 for hillary on conta costa county
3 for trump on del norte county
6 for trump on eldorado county
17 for hillary on fresno county
3 for trump on glenn county
5 for hillary on humbolt county
6 for hillary on imperial county
3 for trump on inyo county
16 for trump on kern county
5 for trump on kings county
3 for hillary on lake county
3 for trump on lasen county
153 for hillary on los angeles
5 for trump on madera county
6 for hillary on marin county
3 for trump on mariposa county
4 for hillary mendocino
6 for hillary on merced county
3 for trump on modoc county
3 for hillary on mono county
9 for clinton on monterrey county
5 for hillary on napa county
4 for hillary on nevada county
49 for hillary on orange county
8 for trump on placer county


wont continue this mess, hillary will win anyway
Also,
>los angeles
>fucking 153 votes when most of the stuff has 3 votes

Its would be a war then huh? SoCal would lose obviously but a California secession is impossible.

Theres too much federal land there, too many strategically placed military bases there, we'd lose a chunk of the coast, and the Union cannot allow a secession of a state thats not Texas to happen, it sets a precedent for other libtard states

>I believe after that Mexico would try to invade them seeing as we probably wouldn't help them after the secession
How?

Why you are so stupid you believe mexico is not your fucking puppet?

You really think mexico would invade another country just like that?

Dont you see news or something?

Yoy must be underage or really stupid

>every republican and some saner democrats beg the USA to intervene
>military moves in, secures majority of the state, including most of its agricultural production, safeguards military and naval bases
>business fucks off the Silicon Valley because getting separated from the USA would cost them billions
>rest descends into anarchy
After waiting a bit for cities to begin starving, they are brought back into the union, with massive deportations/prosecutions of the separatists, leading to majority of the population being stripped off the voting rights as convicted felons.

And that's assuming that the army doesn't steamroll them in the point 2

its a shitty thing to do so no fuck that shit

>wont continue this mess, hillary will win anyway

if they use the usual usa rules:
2 + ( (1 per 565166 citizens) rounded up always)
trump have an chance to win.

los angeles will have 20 electoral votes (remember the minimum is 3) instead of the 153 ones

Actually California would align itself with Russia. Russia has wanted an independent California for years.

Russia would probably build military bases on the border with Nevada.

A more realistic situation though is Canada annexing the west coast and New England and New York.

Also consider that Camp Pendleton, 29 Palms Marine base, San Diego Naval Base and the massive Military population in San Diego won't be on board, most of them aren't even from California.

Good luck taking 29 Palms and Canp Pendleton, you're giving all the Marines on that base to shoot at illegals, criminals and commies and then be called heroes for preserving the union.

Shit they'll be happy to have someone to shoot at period

I understand sharing an island with niggers has made you high on superiority but California is developed and even if Mexico didn't "invade" the cartels damn sure would

States cannot legally secede from the union. We settled this question 160 years ago.

not unilaterally at least, they can secede with a certain number of other states agreeing

trust me, california would NEVER succeed in seceding (no pun intended)

all the republicans that live in the central valley that farm the land that feeds the country would rape and pillage the cucked coastal cities so fast it wouldn't even be a contest.

the far northerners would sit this shit out and enjoy their dank nugs.

we're NEVER giving up beautiful california to some fuckin spics or independent cuckifornia.

>all the republicans that live in the central valley that farm the land that feeds the country would rape and pillage the cucked coastal cities

>implying meth addicts grow our food

>CA leaves
>No more Water
>super majority Democrats cause intense friction with conservative Californians whow just lost their entire political voice
>CA can't into long term effects of legislation
>Tech jobs leave state to remain in the US
>Farm Jobs dry up because no water
>NorCal threatens to leave before all the old farmers realize all the remaining more eyes still comes from SoCal
>SoCal gets uppity before realizing all the remaining water comes from NorCal
>Super Majority Democrats attempt to calm the rioting unemployed/dehydrated masses by passing more pandering legislature
>Their favorite target, Guns, are immediately put on the chopping block
>without federal army protection Governor Brown is quickly removed from office
>Depending on economic situation CA returns to Union or opens up trade with Asia using its ports as a means to fund desalination plants.

All of that is assuming of course that CA is even allowed to leave
>Democrats
Losing 55 guaranteed electoral votes
>Republicans
Losing the largest economy in Tehran Union

The main concern with Texas attempting to leave is that if it actually did go down you'd likely see most of the rest of the south and portions of the midwest trying to go with it.

Also Northern Florida would love to try to separate from southern florida

if by some miracle the Silicon Valligarchs pulled an Ordinance of Secession and didn't get immediately sacked, a most unexpected twist of forgotten alt-history would be real again:

Russia could reassert its original rights to Кpѣпocть Poccъ (Fort Ross) and invade to resecure its lawful territory once held between 1736-1867.
considering the proximity to SF, the beta cuck spergs who learned how to code wouldn't last 48hrs against the full might of the Russian Imperial Army.

SF would be purged of numale Greenspan-Bolsheviks and transformed into the (based) capital city of Novorossiya Amerikosy.

it's pretty likely that God Emperor Trump would approve in appreciation for help in crushing the degenerate parasites and the Red counties of NorCal would be swear allegiance in gratitude for their liberation from being the Gulag bread basket feeding the denizens of this present Dystopian Cyber Nightmare Thot Police State.

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