If the electrocal college didn't exist and it were based on popular vote (which is by FAR the most fair way) then Hillary would have won in a land slide... just take a look at this map (with states size proportionate to population)
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I never got the point of the electoral college. Why is it unfair that the states with more people in them have more power in deciding who the president is?
Good thing we live in a constitutional republic and not a democracy. Also, good thing we live in the United States of America and not the United People of America.
Remove California and Newyork and you've got one hell of a country
If? If pigs had wings, they'd be eagles.
Good luck with that Constitutional Amendment. Retard.
This is now an An-Cap meme thread.
Post your dankest ancap maymays.
Nuke California.
Now.
keep using would have won, it makes my dick hard that you still think she had a chance
Praise Kek!
But she didn't actually win the popular vote.
So that the candidates spend time campaigning in those states too rather than focus their campaigns on massive cities like LA, NYC and Chicago in an effort to win the popular vote
Imagine when all those D voters are deported back the third-world shitholes they crawled out of...
Democrats will never win another election.
Check mate
Two Wolves and one sheep are voting on what to eat. What happens next?
because states like Iowa produce a lot more for the country
This. Take away 3 million votes from illegals for her.
because all the other states also are affected by the decisions of the president and thus should be weighted more heavily than just their popular vote
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Because it's the united -states-.
>remove the only worthwhile state and new york
t. flyover babby
[In a pure democracy], [a] common passion or interest will, in almost every case, be felt by a majority of the whole; a communication and concert results from the form of government itself; and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party or an obnoxious individual. Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths
also because big states already get a shit ton of influence in the house of representatives
Just nuke coastal california. Rural california is fine
t Mojave desert resident
AND in the electoral college.
Because the U.S. is a massive country and each state is practically it's own country both geographically and by population. It's the United States after all so it is fair to have a President win based on getting a majority of the states which is exactly what Trump did. The EC is like a compromise between having state majority decide the election and having the popular vote decide the election. Maybe it isn't the best system but it isn't completely stupid.
That's an ancom you mongoloid
>PA and IL each have 20 electoral votes
>different sizes on the map
>OH has 18 and is bigger than PA
>GA with 16 is the same size as AL with 9
>NJ with 14 smaller then MT with 3
Those and various other size discrepancies make your map shit
this is ancom you fucking normalfag
The 1790 Naturalization Act states that only "free white persons of good character are citizens." And originally only white heads of households who owned land or a building were allowed to vote.
>forgetting the millions of illegal aliens in Califagnia who the state and obongo encouraged, registered, and refused to check ID for while they voted.
>forgetting the hundreds of thousands of dead men who manage to somehow vote only democrat each year
>forgetting the 80,000 felons in Virgin alone which the governor pardoned so they could vote
>forgetting the millions of nigger felons who are not allowed to vote but due to lack of proper registration laws vote anyway
Dipshit we are fascists around here we want to divest you of power exile your shitskin pets and then murder. Where do you think you are?
Fake and gay
the Seattle Seahawks got more rushing yards but lost the super bowl
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the Cleveland Indians scored more runs but lost the world series
it is adjusted by population
CA matters more than Texas
That's withOUT the electoral college you utter mongoloid. This is for population not for electoral votes.
>the autism intensifies.
>If the electrocal college didn't exist and it were based on popular vote...
...then people would have voted differently because the system would have been totally fucking different. The many millions of Trump supporters/Republicans in Democrat run shitholes like California and New York would have come out in droves. Likewise you'd see higher Dem turnout in Texas.
The winner of the popular vote in a system where the popular vote is irrelevant can't tell us who would win the popular vote if the system was changed to one where the popular vote was all that mattered.
and with the electoral college you can basically erase all the states except Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, Florida, and apparently Michigan and Wisconsin this time around but basically only the swing states matter.
The west coast always blue, the northeast always blue, the southeast almost always red, the middle strip down the center of the country, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Utah always red, Alaska always red, Hawaii always blue.
and it comes out fairly balanced in electoral college count. Only a handful of contested states matter.
OP's a liberal cuck. Facts don't matter to him.
No the electoral college was put in place so the largest states alone can't dictate the direction of the country. It's been this way for how long? Cry moar cuck
Ok OBVIOSLY this map is way wrong jesus.
ND and SD have much smaller populations than indiana and are bigger than indiana for some reason. There are like 100000 mistakes on this picture jesus you people are retarded
Bernie Sanders would have been the dem
candidate on (((popular vote)))
>Maine's initials are wrong
MA is Massachusetts fuckhead, Maine is ME
>hillshills in charge of knowing their own fucking country.
This.
Because when you pass laws to solve problems only new york and california have they effect all of the land.
Shoulda, woulda, Coulda..
Get over it.
Accept it for what it is..... The American people are pissed, and you are part of the problem.
The population determines the number of electoral votes.
Here, educate your special snowflake ass.
Property rights matter, too.
You can't have an election decided by just heavily populated centers full of apartment dwellers.
People that own the land have money, and therefore, more say in what happens.
You can't have a country ruled only by a majority of poor people; that's just mob rule.
Sorry that you don't like the system. Either move to a state will count more, earn more money, or fucking leave.
The rules that were in place 200+ years before you were born are not going to be changed.
reminder that Sup Forums wanted to abolish the electoral college leading up to the election
all the replies to this will be in denial of that
Kek, remove her illegals and dead people who voted for her and her poll numbers would be akin to a ghost town.
So KYS faggot.
>which is by FAR the most fair way
The only reason that smaller states agreed to join was that they would not be dominated by larger ones
If anything the number of Senators should be increased to restore the balance in the electoral college
>what is population density
You realize how fucking useless that map is in proving your point? That would only make sense if everyone inhabited an equal space across the land, but the truth is most people live on the coast and 90% of the grey spots are farmland, desert, plains, or mountains
>Popular vote is implemented
>Small red states that produce the food of the nation don't get the representation they want
>Secede
>All liberal cities die of food shortage
At least the size of Mexico is correct.
>Hillary would have won in a land slide.
since when is %1 a landslide ?
Even if they don't secede liberals will still die of food shortage. Communism doesn't work.
>letting human cattle packed into cities run your life
Kek. You fags probably bitch about the World Series if your team loses.
>MY TEAM SCORED MORE TOTAL RUNS EVEN THOUGH WE LOST 4-3
>IF IT WAS 63 STRAIGHT INNINGS WE WOULD'VE WON
and while writing this you realized why the founding fathers of the US of A opted this system.
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>90% of the grey spots are farmland
Damn, so what you're telling me is that the people living in the rural parts of the country have more of a vested interest in the health of the country, as they own more land?
Never thought of it that way. I've never viewed owning land as something too important, because I just rent a closet from some Jews.
lol this is even werse!!
Why the fuck is Minnesota on the west coast
IDIOT
Nobody cares what some dick sucking cityfags want for the rest of the country. If you fucking pussies didn't impose your gun control, high taxes, and emissions on the rest of us, it wouldn't be an issue. But you fucking retards live in such close proximity that you can't stop yourselves from shooting each other or fucking each other in the butts, so you assume the rest of us are pathetic, weak little twats with a similar lack of scruples and self control. Fuck you.
>emissions regulations
It would only be fair if each state had the same economic factors and contributions.
For example Cali has very few primary resources (ore, corn wood, water electricity etc) produced for it's population size as their environment prevents this. Giving them the say on the president for every election will focus the interests of their Californians, potentially misrepresenting the rest of the US as issues that affect say the corn belt will take second place to issues that effect Californians more than others.Same with the other urban centers. You might argue that this isn't a bad thing but without the representation of rural areas the cost to live in cities increases as all items start to cost more and so the economy falters. And yes Cali produces a lot of agricultural products but most are export items and not food staples.
You realize pic related is ludicrously fake. Right?
>that pic
And yet many of them are only doubling down.
Because they lost for not demonizing white men enough.
A disproportionate amount of time would be spent campaigning in the cities, which is anti-democratic because it shifts power even father away from rural areas and towards urban areas.
>1 million votes is a landslide
>That wishful thinking
Only a liberals.
>Counting the 3 million fraud votes that were cast by the non-citizens
Get out, dirty CTR shill and take your "landslide" hyperbole with you.
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ITT: In an alternate universe, $hillary won..
You're all missing the fucking point. It doesn't matter who got more votes because The US isn't a democracy fucktards. They're a constitutional representative republic. The popular vote literally doesn't matter.
It's an editorial cartoon, not a fucking 538 graphic. Its wrongness probably isn't deliberate, just hilarious coastal provincialism.
But yeah, IL/OH/PA are all more than half the size of NY/FL.
pic related
If it were popular vote Trump would of campaigned differently and people would have voted differently and he would have won. Not only that but once the illegal votes are deducted (and yes it is in process) she will get BTFO on pop vote anyway you moron
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>(which is by FAR the most fair way)
leave the country commie, we are not going to let CA and NY dictate the nation
who the fuck cares about the states, they are represented in the senate
there are republican voters in blue states whose vote doesn't matter. and abolishing the EC would almost certainly make them vote more.
you are an idiot if you've made up your mind on the EC within the last month. fucking spooks.
You are so fucking easy to recongnise.
Shoo of my board, scum.
Oklahoma gets to be next to Texas and New York but farther away from California? I see no problem with this.
Fuck Yeah! I mean, just look at all that gray. DUH!!
That`s wrong, canada does not vote.
We're a union of self-governing states, not a pure democracy, that's something you need to comprehend, and hence why your opinion on the matter is irrelevant.
Those proportions are bullshit.
REMINDER THAT TRUMP WON THE POPULAR VOTE
DO NOT ENGAGE IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE
TRUMP WON THE POPULAR VOTE AND THE COLLEGE
THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA REFUSES TO COUNT VOTES FROM AFTER THE ELECTION WAS CALLED
TRUMP WON THE POPULAR VOTE
SPREAD THE MESSAGE
IGNORE DEBATES ABOUT THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE
SHILLS ARE TRYING TO SPREAD THE MYTH THAT TRUMP LOST AND ONLY GOT THE PRESIDENCY THANKS TO THE COLLEGE
THIS IS FALSE AND WE CANNOT LET THIS MYTH SPREAD ANY FURTHER
TRUMP WON BOTH THE POPULAR VOTE AND THE COLLEGE VOTE
SPREAD THE WORD
wikipedia has it at 61,645,235 trump, 63,037,875 clinton, not that it fucking matters
>cartoonist can't into proportions
That map isn't anywhere close to accurate.
>The west coast always blue, the northeast always blue, the southeast almost always red, the middle strip down the center of the country, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Utah always red, Alaska always red, Hawaii always blue.
You cannot be this fucking ignorant of US history to actually believe this. I live in Indiana, which is a blood red state and guess who we voted for in 2008? Guess what party California was voting for in the 80s? Go back to doing your fucking homework.
>Forgetting Tennessee.
Well fuck you too.
because
>4 states with big cities would have the say of 46 other states
>polititians would not care for other states
>states in the states are not provincies in a regular country.
but most importantly, and one that I have never yet seen being spoken is that people tend to have the same problems regarding their environment. what I mean by this is that urbanites will have a tendency to think and vote more for one party that is adjusted more to them while farmers and other people (living in areas with less population density) will also tend to have the same problems regarding their own environment, hence voting for those that are more adjusted to them
now you could say, but if the cities have more people then we should follow them because we would be solving the problems of the majority. however, fly-over states can be as important as states with big cities due to raw resources and specialized production that help diversify the economy and actually create something tangible.
Also, for problem solving within cities there is the mayor and the state laws.
With this said, and with what others have said, it makes perfect sense the electoral vote and to keep it.
The rules have been set for centuries, so liberals can go back the fuck home and cry in their beds.
That's a lie. Clinton won the highest vote share (not majority, nobody did). I'm not saying she should be president (she REALLY shouldn't be president), but those numbers are completely made up.
>popular vote (which is by FAR the most fair way)
idiot
>are you autistic?
Because it represents population, not geographical location. Location is arbitrary for obvious reasons.
Either you give them representation or you expect to see separatist movements made up of the people not being represented.
>location is arbitrary
OK idiot. then why don't you go move to the equator or the north pole looooooooooool
IDOT!!!
>CA and NY vs TX and FL
> all other states vote red
Trump woulda won. Getting rid of the electoral college only encourages Republicans in blue states to come out and vote. Red states remain unaffected.
Hillary BTFO. She only won the popular because she committed election fraud.
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Please hang yourself.
>Iowa produces more than states like CA, NY, or TX