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I have a question for those that disregard human life:
Is it consistent or just fragmented? Like, those that would like to see "all muslims hanged", would you enjoy watching your children, siblings, etc hanged?

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Boo hoo go fuck yourself you whiny faggot. Go be a little self-worshiping libtard, you Satan-worshiping piece of worthless shit. You think you're a good guy? You're not. You're a bad person. Everyone is bad except for Jesus. I'm sorry for you, your parents must be complete retards. And you think you can spit on this peaceful and prosperous land built by my people who worshiped Jesus/God since arriving here in the 1600s, and you think you can worship Satan on this land? You should be hanged, faggot. Now that Trump is President, you better be a good little boy. We're a lot less lenient than that faggot nigger Obama. We want a comfy society for people who worship God. If you are unwilling to submit to Jesus, the one true God, we will destroy you. If we were like Jesus, we would let you overcome us, but we are flawed sinners, who want to live in a comfy society. If you want to worship your own power instead of thanking God and repenting, if you want to worship your own strength, I'm sorry for the pain you will feel. We don't give a fuck about the 'sins of our past', nigger. God forgives those who repent. If you think that was bad, our damage output is going to be off the charts after all these years of being held down by the satanic establishment. Try us, little bitch

Why do liberals always use this argument? Of course not, but why would that effect whether or not I would want to see a member of a ideologically conflicting group hung?

At this point. I enjoy seeing anybody hanged. I have no children, no siblings. I have nothing.

Just seeing normies die in the most painful way possible makes my day so much better. Seeing this cancerous society collapse into pure chaos where laws don't matter. Rape is everywhere, stacies get BTFO'd as they realize their ''self esteem'' and confidence means nothing when they get raped by Tyrone.

>Like, those that would like to see "all muslims hanged", would you enjoy watching your children, siblings, etc hanged?

You project yourself, your identity, your consciousness, onto others. This can be helpful when empathy is required. But like all other human emotions, it can be both good and bad.

When you use this emotion and this logic to justify all actions at all times, you cannot defend yourself. You cannot defend your people. You cannot establish hierarchy and pursue meta-good goals. You will lose.

I would hate to see my family be publicly executed, so that's why we need to hang muslims, because its us or them.

>t. Melbourne

In any country where they have a majority, the hang unbelievers with impunity. Why shouldn't we do the same? That's what true equality would look like.

Is this the new 300 confirmed kills meme?

Also, it is hilarious how seriously people take this site.

>would you enjoy watching your children, siblings, etc hanged?
No, because they are not Muslims

the only good nigger is a dead one

I genuinely enjoy seeing my enemies in pain. People I don't know, I don't really care either way when they suffer. I understand the thought processes behind empathy, I feel it somewhat occasionally, it's just extremely dulled. I love and care for my family and friends just as much as anyone.

Feels good not being chained down by useless faggy feelings like empathy desu

calm down, or at least try and use paragraphs.

I'm not a liberal.
>I would want to see a member of a ideologically conflicting group hung?
I'm pretty sure most muslims are still just human beings that want to live a happy life without conflict. I agree Islam is volatile and can easily promote hate, but the muslim sitting next to you on the bus seems to be pretty chill, if not disenfranchised by the chaos of the world.

Let me put it another way:
You see a 16 year old girl walking down the street and you think about what you would like to do "to" her.
Would you enjoy others doing that to your daughter if you had one?

What I'm getting at is the ego breeds the idea that you are better than everyone else and somehow deserving to treat others without respect.
The left are also horribly guilty of this. They think conservatives are "redneck retards" and should be shot, etc.
At the end of the day it's all just division and conflict, upon others and upon yourself.

This site isn't anything.
"Only a fool would think otherwise".

Sup Forums is, and always will be complete madness.

Searching for meaning in this steaming pile of stale memes is like searching for meaning in fashion. There is none.

No we won't like watching out loved ones killed as we view them with higher regard. Muslims, however aren't viewed equally unless you'd like to prove otherwise.

"Oh my god, imagine if it was your mom!!! Think of the children!"

The weak should fear the strong... Conflict weeds out the infirm. Genetically, when its small scale, and ideologically, when its on a large scale.

What a fucking retarded thing to say, Kiwi.
I'll humour you, however.

No, I would not. But I would enjoy pressing the big, red button of "End all mudslimes and jews".

Nothing is required to be proven otherwise.
People are innocent until proven guilty.

Citizenship guarantees due process, and any effort to diminish this right is antithetical to that axiom of American culture.

That being said, people who are hoping to immigrate or seek asylum in the US, should they be proven to have connections to terrorist elements, are rightly subject to denial of said immigration or asylum.

There is no need for extreme perspectives in this matter, existing laws and structures for asylum and immigration already do this.

Once upon a time societies had a high regard of respect for members within. And "the enemy" were people who lived in far off lands with strange customs etc.
This has slowly dwindled down to be small social groups, direct family members, etc.
Who knows, eventually we may become so dehumanized that the only being we have respect for is ourself... And then not even that..

>but the muslim sitting next to you on the bus seems to be pretty chill, if not disenfranchised by the chaos of the world.

This is a common argument, to take one individual and apply it to the group. And a group is just a bunch of individuals, right? So what's the harm?

But this logic doesn't erase group dynamics. In every country with a majority of Muslims, they start instituting Sharia Law. That cute Muslim girl next to you on the bus will not argue against this, she will just go along with it.

Demographics is destiny.

>Pretends to value human life
>Hates white people and wants to ruin their countries and lives

Typical leftist.

As far as I'm concerned we're pretty much there.

Hopefully this will be reversed.

I got that a lot after doing acid. However, I'm pretty sure part of this is based on the fallacy that all of us think alike. That Muslim on the bus probably isn't thinking anything malicious at the moment, but his ideology predisposes him to be extra violent to apostates should the proper situation arise (yes, even "moderate" Muslims).

Furthermore, the outgroup bias is present for anyone with a healthy ego. No matter how right it may seem to suppress that ego, as humans we need a strong self-identity to succeed in our own social structure.

After rewatching the Dark Knight I've come to the conclusion that the Joker actually made some really good philosophical points.
I almost feel bad saying this though.
Was the Joker redpilled?

>As far as I'm concerned we're pretty much there.

I think you may be right. This atomized individualism is discussed pretty often on Amerika.org

>In every country with a majority of Muslims, they start instituting Sharia Law.
This is true.
However as it applies to the context of the United States it is not true at all.
Sharia law is incompatible with the US political system. Even if the Muslim population were to somehow expand to a majority, which is very unlikely, they would not be able to institute Sharia Law as we have hundreds of years of legal precedent and legislation which would prevent it. Muslim majority countries do not have this.

The same reason that Christians have never been able to institute a state religion despite at times being 85%+ of the population.

>weak should fear the strong
If you treat others without respect, you are the weak.

Some people want to see the world burn.

Some people want to put the Barbarians to the sword.

youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg

>Hates white people and wants to ruin their countries and lives
Do you really believe Liberals have a conscious belief or effort to ruin their country and the lives of their fellow citizens?

I understand that policies implemented by liberals could be perceived to have a negative impact upon a society from a ideological standpoint.
But I refuse to believe that Liberals wake up in the morning and think "What can I do today to fuck over the country I live in?".

Fast forward 100 years into an exceptionally effective genocide and we are the new Muslims. This is not a victory for us.

That being said all people who have committed atrocities (individual basis) should be quickly executed. From an ideological warfare standpoint mass violence is ineffective as a means to achieve victory.

I don't think these social groups are small. Muslims, liberals and niggers are big enough groups that they cause global problems. A relative or friend that changes deeply based on group madness may have to be put down in some scenarious, yes.

In the future, if there is one, certain urban tribes (disguised as "politically active people" - liberals, progressives...) will be considered as afflicted by contagious psychological sicknesses. SJWarriory is one of the Great Plagues of our time, the AIDS of the West that weakens societies and allows monsters in.

>Sharia law is incompatible with the US political system. Even if the Muslim population were to somehow expand to a majority, which is very unlikely, they would not be able to institute Sharia Law as we have hundreds of years of legal precedent and legislation which would prevent it. Muslim majority countries do not have this.

Do you think the USA will last forever? Will it be the only empire in history to never fail?

Do you think our constitution will prevent Muslims from enforcing their views on a society where they are 50%+ of the population?

As far as State religion, we currently have one. It's called liberal progressivism. And yes, it came from Christianity. It's a non-theistic sect of Christianity along the Calvinist line.

First and most major problem with your premise that defuses your entire argument: the assumption that all human life is valuable and interchangeable when it is not.

As soon as you drop this premise and view the human species as existing along a spectrum of intelligence, physicality, and overall ability that varies, and sometimes drastically varies, from sub-species to sub-species the idea of inherent value into all life shifts dramatically if not outright disappears, and the ability to more objectively quantify and qualify human life develops.

>but his ideology predisposes him to be extra violent to apostates should the proper situation arise
Yes, but this exists in every religion.
Well except for some of the super tolerant ones like the Buddhist and Bahai faiths, however even in these we have militant extremist sects arise.
The reasons for the prevalence of this within Islam are numerous. Isolationism and the persistence of the it being the state religion in those countries are primary factors, however many geopolitical forces have also contributed to it. The cold war being major component in the modern day.

However, any example of scripture within Islam has numerous counter parts within any Abraham religion.

>Why shouldn't we do the same?
Because we are better than that.

include me in the screencap.

Tribal is natural. The concept to care about everyone is a noble idea but it is not natural. People die all the time but the only one you "care about" is the ones that reaches your news feed.

I did not cry for the last boat that did flip in the Mediterranean and i wont cry for the next one, but if some dude that used to take the same buss passes it will affect you to some extent. (Sweden is small so you usually recognize all the regulars that take the same buss).

So yea press the button. w/e

The archetypes within Islam are extremely violent compared to almost any other religion. A lot of that comes from it's Arabic roots
>quran written in arabic script, which is just a bunch of letters shaped out of swords and daggers
>Muhammad engages in warfare to spread Islam by the sword. This violentce shaped the core texts of the religion.
>"submission" is to Islam, what "love" and "purity" are to christianity. It is emphasized more than any other part of the religion. Why do you think the muslim prayer is what it is?

The whole religion is a death cult centered around conquest. It needs to be exterminated for the common good of humanity.

No. I am a tribal animal. So are you. Of course I want to see outsiders hanged. Of course I don't want to see my family hanged. How retarded can you be?

>Do you think the USA will last forever? Will it be the only empire in history to never fail?
Yes. Well as long as life is sustainable on earth that is. The advent of nuclear weapons has essentially instituted as global ceasefire between countries. No country will ever directly attack the United States, they may fund proxy elements to attack our proxy elements but that is as far as they will go.
>Do you think our constitution will prevent Muslims from enforcing their views on a society where they are 50%+ of the population?
Yes, for two reasons, one being that is has prevented the institution of state religion before by the religious majority, secondly being that assimilation rate of Muslims within the United states are orders of magnitude higher than assimilation rates of other countries.
>It's called liberal progressivism.
That is a political ideology, not a religion.
>A non-theistic sect of Christianity.
That is an oxymoron.

Wrong again.
Multiculturalism is cancer. It strips cultures, not just white culture but all that partake, of it's customs and identity.
I'm pretty sure it's been deliberately set up this way -
First they created inbalance in quality of life and prosperity (The west has been raping 2nd and 3rd world countries for 1000's of years).
In some cases, where the societies were resilient they had to directly blow the shit out of them through war - slaughtering their most alpha men and leaving them at the mercy of corrupt forces (Think Korean war, Vietnam war, etc)
Then they steamroll their culture with corruption and send the "shellshocked" people off to western societies where we have also lost our cultural identity through various forms of manipulation.
I suspect every, or at least most, wars in history have been a war on humanity itself.
I mean look what WW2 did to Germany - once arguably the strongest culture on the planet.

>The whole religion is a death cult centered around conquest. It needs to be exterminated for the common good of humanity.

Here's what they think about the West:

The whole religion is a death cult centered around liberalism. It needs to be exterminated for the common good of humanity.

>would you enjoy watching your children, siblings, etc hanged?

No. Now you see why people want all muslims hanged.

This is a similar ideology used for radicalizing Islamic terrorists. Fear is what makes animals try to appear larger, and when it comes to people, their extreme glass em with nukes mentality comes the weak minded.

People get so scared they lose all empathy as a defense mechanism and become dangerous and simply being dangerous, or edgy doesn't make you strong.

do I need to check my own quads?

my family is full of socialist faggots and I wouldn't mind getting them on rope day

>muslims
> my children

You do realise these arent in the same category you universalist retard?

I wholeheartedly agree. That's why both ideologies are mutually exclusive. I happen to be western, so I'm obviously going to pick my side.

He waged warfare because the others started it you dumb shitheel.

ask the 50 dead gays in FL
what about thier lives?
ask the germans who have their money stolen in tax to import lefty voters for merkel same as obama tried?

>>A non-theistic sect of Christianity.
>That is an oxymoron.

No shit. That's why it's interesting. Check out Moldbug's "How Dawkins got pwned"

You still don't understand. I don't value my family, race, nation because they are humans. I don't care humans die, i only care if my humans die. On a personal level I care if my family dies or gets harassed or trampled over. On a societal level I care if my countrymen or race die and or get invaded by social outsiders.
This is a politics board meaning it pertains to society. Politically I would not give a single care if every muslim on the planet were hung from a tree.

>implying Trump isn't an atheist

KEK

The only people I care at all about are people who are as intelligent as myself and think like I do. And even then, if someone like myself dies, I do not feel much sadness.

Once again, you can find equally violent passages within Christianity as well as Judaism. All of these religions were formed during an intensely conflictual period of human history.
To survive as a religion against other religions they basically had to have these tenants, because if they did not allow any violence against other religions, and indeed an imperative to do so within the scripture, they would not exist today.

There are numerous examples of this in history. The Spanish inquisition, the crusades, the expansion of Christianity and formation of the Holy Roman Empire.

Again the point of my argument is not to excuse Islam or militant sects within it, but to bring to light the reasons for their prevalence. Just as militants sects of Christianity arose out of abortion becoming legal, militant sects of Islam have been formed out of perceived slights against their culture.

>you are just like an islamic terrorist

Lectured by a child. Here gentlemen is another example of this post modernist moral relativism cancer that is leading the west to its doom.

You want to see your family die because they believe a different political ideology than you do?
SAD!

it doesn't matter whats in the texts. What matters is what archetype is emphasized by current interpretations. In Islam it is always submission.

Just to add.
The only time people unite is to fight a common foe. It is nature. if aliens came down from the stars and started killing muslims I would care and I would fight those green fucks. But until then there is no reason for me to unite with those fuckers.
You people preach about how much we could accomplish if we stopped fighting each other. The truth of the matter is that if there was no conflict there would be no reason to accomplish anything in fact there is nothing to accomplish. World peace is utopia. Game over. Nothing to do for humans now but sit on their ass and shit around with friends.

You should learn to link posts in your replies, makes things easier.
Just click on the post number of the post you are replying to.


Liberal progressivism is not a religion. There are people within it who are religious, and use their religion as a reason to support it, that is true, however I would wager that the the rate of non-religious people is much higher than any other political ideology.

Ask yourself, why do muslims make their women wear hajibs? It's fucking submission once again. Why do they put their asses in the air to pray? Submission. Why do they refuse to drink or eat pork? Submission

maybe I'm off my head but I kinda think
>ask and you shall recieve
or to put it another way:
>do and you shall have done

best of luck :)

>giving shills tips
>not just telling newfags to lurk more
Why? I hope you're saging

That makes zero sense. How at all does it pertain to anything in the conversation.

>Is it consistent or just fragmented? Like, those that would like to see "all muslims hanged", would you enjoy watching your children, siblings, etc hanged?

No. I eat cows. I don't want to eat my family.

>Liberal progressivism is not a religion. There are people within it who are religious, and use their religion as a reason to support it, that is true, however I would wager that the the rate of non-religious people is much higher than any other political ideology.

I thought the same thing until I considered it's evolution and central tenets.

unqualified-reservations.com/how_dawkins_got_pwned.pdf

>World peace is utopia. Game over. Nothing to do for humans now but sit on their ass
on the contrary, the world in conflict is Human pontential being tied down and starved.
True liberty - of body, mind and spirit gives birth to creativity that we cant even currently comprehend.

Of course not. Just the mudbloods.

>, you can find equally violent passages within Christianity as well as Judaism.
Islam is literally instruction to actively kill infidels, rape their women and enslave christians/jews, raping their women too until Islam takes over the world. Which is exactly what Mohammed did, and he's an exemplary muslim. It's dangerous.
Sure you can shape religion as you like but muslim core is violence.

It pertains to that specific post which was in essence:
>I dont care about others I'll do what I want for my own gratification
to which I replied:
>by putting yourself in such a position you are allowing others to treat you in the same regard.

there's a huge difference between being respectful, and being such a weak, cowardly cuck that allows yourself, your family and your people to be taken advantage of

I don't want to see anything or group "all hanged". My goal in life is preservation of my family, friends and myself. Anyone that tries to infringe on that goal is going to meet with swift and unyielding retribution. No regrets and no sympathy. If you try to take from me those I hold dear then I will make you pay dearly for it. That is all.

>it doesn't matter whats in the texts.
Yes it does, because those texts are what people use to justify things which are forbidden by other texts. Such as thou shalt not kill. Which also exist in Islam. There are numerous examples of condemnation of killing non-believers within Islamic scripture. It is forbidden outright, however people use other scripture to get around this and justify their actions.
> In Islam it is always submission.
Yes, as it is with Christianity, its followers are expected to submit to the will of Jesus, god or the holy ghost, or whatever combination that the different sects find appropriate.
Submission is the hallmark of every Abrahamic religion. Like I said, the difference is in the context not the core beliefs. The context of the middle east is really fucking shitty. Most are illiterate, they are uneducated, they are poor, and when people are miserable they will turn to whatever ideal that is available to try and make things better, such as fighting in a "Holy War" where killing infidels guarantees salvation.

Sup Forums is a place for 11-17 year old outcasts to feel naughty and grown up. They say rude things because they want to fit in with the other lemmings and be cool, despite having no user names or post counts.

When they get their first girlfriend they graduate to facebook, twitter, instagram etc.

If they never get a girlfriend they stay on here sometimes until they are 21-23 and act like the 'cool' older brother, bullying and teasing the typical young teenage user.

It's mostly male, lonely, virgins.

Sup Forums is a place where furries, pedophiles, transexuals, stormfront and other racist hate groups also attempt to recruit these young boys. Because of the nature of the board, if you have 10-15 fake ip's you can switch between, you can get almost any topic to 300+ replies, if you keep posting in your own thread.

Over the past 5 years various Intelligence Services have monitored and tracked users on this board, but they realised eventually that the people here are just harmless kids and not the terrorist masterminds they are looking for.

The profile I layed out above makes over 90% of the userbase on the chans, with about 70% of them just lurking/reading threads too afraid to post.

truth here

I wouldn't mind watching your children hang as I rape your mother if it makes you feel better

none of you want to touch this, eh?

That's why we hang all of them so there are none left to mourn

Why do Christians expect women to be subservient to their husbands?
Submission.
Why do Christians expect people to figuratively drink and eat the viscera of Christ?
Submission.
Why do Christians cut the skin of males at birth?
Submission.

muslims aren't people so that's not a logical equivalency

I am done with memes. I have grown beyond them. Past year 7 I started to gain a new perspective.
Sup Forums is normal now.
I want to make Sup Forums great. For once.

I simply disagree mate, interesting reading but it doesn't convince me.

I think "being weak" means "having less than average physical strength". Yours is a fantasy definition.

You are pathetic!!!

>here's a lot of things I spent a very much amount of good time thinking and I think its right in a tautological sense because I actually dont understand the concepts I expouse
the post

>Being this traumatically disturbed.

Never change, satan-warshiping brown faggot

>none of you want to touch this
This is mainstream accepted fact here, you could have skipped the blog and said (((they))). You are criticizing from a surface level, in other words lurk more friend.

The vast majority of christians don't do the first two, and the last one is usually just done because people think it's cleaner for some weird reason.

Yes I am pathetic. And I accept that. The world is flawed and so am I. But Jesus forgives me.

Fun fact: that's senior Vermont Senator and former President Pro Tempore Patrick Leahy being threatened by the Joker in that scene.

Isn't a tribal mentality fairly natural?

I don't want all Muslims hanged. My collective metrics are all fucked up, though. I don't really have a sense of "us". I think it leads to a lot of personal problems on a psychological level and apathy, for me. Its like, just a sort of pointless drifting.

I don't think its sane to avoid having a collective you belong to. And "humanity" isn't going to fill that void. That's so surface-level, misunderstood and fragile, it seems even crazier than a tribal mentality to me.

I just want a muslim on here to defend the Arabic script. How can anything, literally written in the form of swords and knives not imply violence?

You can say muslims aren't all arabic, but as far as I know almost all of them read the quran in arabic at some point in their lives.

>Islam is literally instruction to actively kill infidels, rape their women and enslave christians/jews, raping their women too until Islam takes over the world.
So does Christianity.
What is it going to take for me to prove to you that Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are basically the same religion in regards to the scriptural, cultural, and militant propagation of the religion?
If you would like I can copy paste passages from the bible that match those you are quoting from Islam.
There are also numerous passages within Islamic Scripture which forbid any unjust treatment of non-believers.
Such as: "Beware! Whoever is cruel and hard on a non-Muslim minority, curtails their rights, burdens them with more than they can bear, or takes anything from them against their free will; I (Prophet Muhammad) will complain against the person on the Day of Judgment."

I don't have a side in this discussion, I am not religious and never have been, my interest is purely academic, and I have found that every religion, both advocates tolerance toward non-believers as well as advocates intolerance toward non-believers. They are designed as such, to provide the tools to be compassionate, and when necessary to be hateful toward them.

You still don't fucking understand that while the texts are similar, the connotations are completely different. It's one thing viewed through radically different lenses.

There's the relatively benign lense of modern christianity, and the distorted, violent lense of islam.

The point still stands.
They have been central tenants of the faith since its inception and only within the last 50 years have become less common.

>How can anything, literally written in the form of swords and knives not imply violence?
Because it isn't.
How can anything, literally written in the form of swords and knives not imply violence?
I'm not even Muslim, this is just nonsense.

Misanthropism is a spook

I dunno man, do you believe in Jung? In archetypes? Do you believe you can grasp a man's psychology by looking at his posture and body language?

Thanks Mr Trudeau.