Sick and tired of people acting like globalism is the end of the world. Get over it. The food you eat, the computer your are using to access this website, pretty much everything you own, comes from another place.
This website as a whole is the pinnacle of globalism. Look at the flags. People who support isolationism are of lower intelligence. It erks me when angry old men get riled up against something they actively participate in every day.
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>The food you eat, the computer your are using to access this website, pretty much everything you own, comes from another place.
Why is this inherently a good thing?
Yeah and I helped an Indian guy clean up his house once.
So does this now mean Punjabi Punanni is mine forever and ever?
The world is full of fucking idiots like you that don't grasp the concept of limits and boundaries and because you don't, you fling shit at it like an angry monkey.
Your Macbook would cost $15,000 if it were produced in Canada mate, and that doesn't even cover the worker benefits.
You don't understand market forces either, I see.
Diversity means leftist rule. Diversity means the continued dumbing down of the population. Diversity means the elites can continue to rob the country blind while the people subsist on the scraps. Diversity means lower IQs. Diversity means no national spirit to root people in principles, values, or morals. Diversity leads to globalism. Diversity leads to enslavement.
A vast majority of economic activity occurs within 50 miles of a given city.
The concept of globalism was a meme perpetrated to sell books.
A FUCKING LEAF!!!
>Your Macbook would cost $15,000
Nigger that's what robots are for not child slavery in Chinklandia.
>too late for you leaf...when Jamal takes your job let us know how globalism works again.
How do you know that? How much profit does Apple make on each computer?
They certainly waste a lot of space in their Apple stores. They've got like one product per 100m squared.
Wankers.
>Sup Forums complains about globalism and multiculturalsim
>Sup Forums is a mulitcultrual and globalist board
The vast majority of humanity needs to be pacified and distracted, they have no business making any consequential choices. If at all possible, they should be encased in green gelatin, or at the very least highly malleable wood.
>children should die in sweatshops so I can pay less for stuff
Wtf i hate Sup Forums now
Market forces are exactly what give rise to globalism, and what make it inevitable. The merchant always finds a way.
Market forces do not serve 1 goal, they serve any goal that utilizes them. Globalism isn't even across the planet, there are plenty of places that have protectionist policies for instance.
China is a good example, was recently seeing in Thailand too that you can't buy land if you're a foreigner unless you marry a Thai - and even then it's their property not yours.
It's good to an extent, but so are borders.
See image for analogy.
Not a single thing you use is made entirely within 50 miles of one place. Not a single one. Even if you grow tomatoes in your back yard and eat them, you still rely on products made over the entire world to do so.
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>>children should die in sweatshops so I can pay less for stuff
Uh yea? I'm a white American, so my desire for less expensive stuff is more important than literally everyone else.
Market forces don't serve anyone, it's just that in seeking to achieve their own individual goals, people without realizing end up cooperating with other people all around the world. There isn't a single developed country that doesn't rely on imported goods, and there isn't a single commodity that is made entirely in one country. I challenge you to find one.
Global cooperation between diverse and separate cultures is what will make the world great. This requires nationalism, not dumping 25 different colors of paint together to get brown. Nations can take pride in their heritage and values and prosper within a global market without global assimilation. This is what retarded post national leafs will never understand.
Globalism IS good. If you think about it, every bad thing that happened in the history of mankind was caused by a racial, ethnic, religious, national, or cultural conflict. Globalism will get rid of all those things and we'll prosper like never before.
Can we ban all leaf IPs right now?
I shouldn't even bother wasting my time posting this but:
diversity + proximity = war
Do you know absolutely nothing of human nature? Sorry, anyone who's not whites "human" nature.
>Brazil
I guess when you're at the bottom, you have nothing to lose by the destruction of those at the top
Fair point, but you're incorrect on commodities.
Raw materials are sourced as they are....you dig it up and there it is. You're thinking of manufacturing but even then there are things that can be made on location.
Rolex watches pride themselves on having all their production "in house", for instance.
You have idiots like OP that can't see this is on a scale rather than being "yes" or "no".
You must be completely braindead, oh my god.
It's competition that has fostered the most innovations, best recent example is the space race. Wars are great for it too.
Though because Brazil is an absolute shithole I can see that for them they see it as a way out. No reason for decent nations to become shit just to appease your own failed states clawing mouths.
Can we stop even calling it diversity of multi-culturalism? Hitler believed in diversity and multi-culturalism, that being the right of every ethnic group to live in their own land.
This globalism is literally the opposite of diversity, it irks me every time I see it being called diversity.
There is a difference between Globalism and international commerce...you know this right?
>nation wrecked by niggers and degeneracy
>globalism and diversity is good
All of the most wonderful feats and innovations of humanity have been created by nationalist homogeneous societies.
These Liberal Leafs should be fucking executed.
Go back to Britain you poofters!
Marxists don't like facts
They would literally starve to death without these "sweatshops".
>canada
THAT'S IT LEAF ONCE TRUMP IS IN IM DRIVING UP TO ANNEX THE CLAY OWED TO WE THE PEOPLE #MAKECANADAAMERICAAGAIN
We obviously need to trade with other countries.
The problem is that our system of capitalism seeks to maximize profits, so this will inevitably lead to jobs being shipped over seas and a bunch of immigrants coming here doing work for cheap.
So in the end we get less jobs and jobs that pay less.
If all countries had similar workers rights it would be a different story but ford is going to move factories to Mexico to pay Mexicans slave wages instead of providing Americans a decent living. All in the name of profit .
The problem is that right wingers will defend to the death capitalists' profits, even when it is directly fucking them over
I could argue that raw materials aren't the final product, but even still, how do you dig up hundreds of millions of tons of rock without using complex machinery, and who made and programmed that machinery? Where do you refine that rock into various elements and alloys, who are then used in all sorts of chemical processes all over the world? The labour may be local, but in order to truly achieve the highest level of productivity, you have to take into account the contribution of the equipment. Maybe you could pick up natural berries grown in a forest using your bare hands, but how would you transport them, and with what oil? We are already living in a very globalist world.
>The problem is that right wingers will defend to the death capitalists' profits
The alternative is oblivion
FUCK YOU!
>me talking to random faggots on the internet means I should let 3rd world garbage into my country and let them drive up crime + consume our taxes
fuck off retard
Best post so far desu senpai
a leaf
globalism is a buzzword for mediocre cartoonists who only became popular through forced meming
Here in Aus there is a lot of mining, often times things are dug up and the product is sent off to be used elsewhere but refining of some things can take place.
Coal you dig up and send it off - easy.
Iron you refine somewhat but that is done here too.
You're confusing international commerce with unfettered globalism.
I can sell you a widget, this doesn't mean you have to accept me marrying your sister and living next door to you without complaint because "hey man, you bought my widget, globalism".
Israel has sold armaments to India, Sudan, El Salvador and Ethiopia and makes quite a lot of money off this. It doesn't mean you have to throw open your doors to the people from these nations.
The day of the rake is coming for you, leaf.
The culture here is actually fairly assimilated. SJWs, redditors, and newfags get ousted pretty quickly. Most posters are also nationalist, just for their own respective countries.
Mult-national? Yes, but not multicultural.
You seriously believe Apple is outsourcing for your benefit? The savings go to the shareholders, not the consumers, you idiot. The consumers lose out on the jobs and lose out on the savings.
See Logistics re: over-extended.
Why are you so obsessed with maximizing energy consumption growth through competition for limited resources OP? Are you at all concerned about bio-diversity/climate change? It seriously seems like a religious thing with you people. Why can't you just let people be?
Maybe I don't really know what globalism is. I was taught in middle school about the process of globalization and how it happens, so I take it for granted that eventually we'd have a "globalist" world, and any effort to speed up or slow down that process is like tilting at windmills.
I'm perfectly fine with interacting with like minded people from around the world. I just don't want some of them in my backyard.
It's like this, we just have limits on things and people can have their own culture.
Anybody who says to you this is impossible is deliberately lying to you and it's easy to see. It's already there in Israel anyway.
A 1 world government would be a nightmare, imagine governing Israel the same as you do Iran or Venezuela.
The relations of nations is just like that between individuals (as nations are really just a larger representation of that). We'll hang out on the weekend and go to a bar, doesn't mean you have to put up with me sleeping next to you in bed or eating out of your fridge.
Not an argument, try again. Soros is coming for you and there's nothing you can do about it, ""nationalists"".
>huehhuehhueh i'm too retarded to be reached, can't get me
The time in the internet cafe is nearly expired and you'll have to go back to the favela soon, living in your own sewerage.
You realize the vast majority of the world is a shit hole with a very uneducated population. Take a look at the over 1 million immigrants entering Germany some reports have it over 60% are completely illiterate. And more progressive report has it at a minimum of one third. We have borders for a reason it's the only saving grace period is majority of the world was developed, and the majority of the populace was educated I would agree with you but that's not even remotely the case. For chrissakes I believe less than a third of the population actually have toilets,and their shit is becoming a serious environmental problem.
Actually it won't.
Globalization depends on non-renewable resources, and when they start to deplete you are left with massively over-extended supply chains and and over populated extremely diverse urban centers. This is the perfect recipe for bloodshed the likes of which the world has never seen, and probably will never see again.
Of course you don't buy into this argument if you think resources are effectively infinite because of future improvements in technology. You're staking a lot on stuff that doesn't even exist yet, imo.
Putting your extended families interest before the interests of Syrians is not "isolationism". (((Forces))) are trying to polarize the discussion into the open borders one world government side vs the ebil racist, isolationist redneck side that love north korea.
There is no future without some global cooperation but that cooperation can't be co-opted into serving dishonest political agendas or authoritarian ideas about thought/language police.
>They would literally starve to death without these "sweatshops"
Isn't that a good thing though, considering their countries are horribly overpopulated?
A good point.
It reminds me a lot of the "r k theory".
Some people are rabbits and are actually almost physically incapable of conceptualizing a world where resources might run out because "there's some here now, why worry?".
So they don't plan, things run out and they die in droves but some always survive.
Not to mention absolutely useless people that are no benefit to modern society, would be a huge drain on those finite resources it's completely illogical! Democrats self-proclaimed themselves to be the group with the higher intellect, yet the vast bulk of their supporters are minorities, the fact is minorities Tend to have less education, use up more social services, commit more crimes etc. so they need to shut up plain and simple it's embarrassing
I don't think a 1 world government can happen or is even desirable, but I believe that the free market will reward those who are willing to cooperate with anyone, and because of that racial and cultural tensions will slowly decline. I see nothing that fundamentally prevents peace between every race, there are a lot of problems with the way different groups will tend to fight with each other, but fundamentally it's possible.
It's mistaken and dangerous to anthropomorphize nations, they aren't individuals and they don't interact as individuals. The relationship between two individuals depends on the characteristics and motives of those two individuals, but the relationships between nations depend on the characteristics and motives of the people representing those nations, of which you have many. I never sat at an international negotiation table but I imagine it's quite different from everyday conversation.
But globalism means global completion.YOu compete with on the global scale.Thus globalism fosters more innovations since it far more competition.
Free trade is good, globalise not necessarily.
Free trade lowers the cost of goods for consumers generally and also allows countries to specialise so that they can compete against industrial giants like the USA and china.
>I don't think a 1 world government can happen or is even desirable
>jew flag
Globalism dehumanizes us. At its very base.
The bigger a group is, the less a life means.
The less ties we feel to our ancestors, the more we are depressed.
Globalism feeds nihilism and makes us listless slaves to whatever various kinds of advertising tell us to want.
Actually no, Islam is The exception to what you are saying. It fundamentally desires and encourages to control the world under Islamic rule... literally since it's creation it has been trying to accomplish this goal with war and genocide a.k.a. jihad and actually a more modern practice and reading. There are literal profit started the conquest by taking over Mecca and turning predominantly Christian middle east into the shit hole it is today and here we are 1400 years later and we still have at least 25% of the Muslim population, quite possibly more that want is long as the one true worldwide religion many believe it will happen and many are actively trying to make it happen
You have globalism confused with free trade. The former has me has me giving all off my money to brown people for nothing. They don't want to play ball so they get the wall.
>This globalism is literally the opposite of diversity, it irks me every time I see it being called diversity.
Diversity is a dog-whistle for white genocide. The only nations that "need diversity" are white nations. Whites are 14% of the world pop.
All these things you mentioned happened before globalism was even a thing or in its infancy.
Unless you take globalism in the most literal terms in which we have been doing since the dawn of civilization essentially.
Ironic because nationalism is also dehumanizing the individual for the collective.
Prophet* Excuse my other mistakes, i'am forced to use voice dictation
You could say that about any group.
Free market capitalism is all about the individual. Nationalism and socialism are group projects.
Do you have hands?
Maybe because every single other white person is more similar to me than any brown person on the planet?
It's like you can't fathom the idea of a collective that values individualism.
>Free market capitalism is all about the individual
That's not necessarily true. Large scale commerce like that is just as much a group project as anything else.
>I don't think a 1 world government can happen or is even desirable
To you, no.
To politicians who want more power, it's a natural step.
>It's mistaken and dangerous to anthropomorphize nations, they aren't individuals and they don't interact as individuals.
Nations are an organism in the way we are, we're not exactly the same but there *are* similarities.
Markets can reward people, yes. This is getting to individuals over groups. You can get along with an arab as a person, arab state getting along with Israel in the same way is nearly inconceivable.
I don't really have much else to add here.
Not at all.
You have major cartels, money centers and industry heads that control sectors and stifle their competition through buying them out, undercutting them or having lobbyists pass laws against them. This was a major electoral issue in the USA with "red tape".
You make everything the same and you can have the same oligarchy controlling everywhere, stifling competition to themselves so this point is completely false.
It's like how now drug laws in US states are destroying Mexican drug cartel's markets there because now there is competition. But what if the law was the same as in Mexico? Then it favors the cartel.
Globalism assumes people from across the global are willing to assimilate enough into the culture that the only differences between each person barring skin are: Ideals, politics, religions, code of ethics. That everyone from Iraq or Syria will normally behave the same way law wise and socially like a native of a western country; and the interactions among themselves is without conflict.
Globalism can't work in this day in age because people are forcing other people to go with their beliefs regardless if it's uncomfortable or unethical or whatever. The people shouting for globalism are the very ones that are hindering it from it becoming a possibility because they are actively silencing and attacking people for disagreeing with it.
Even if you could force it, I still believe it would end up horrible.
1. Nations would just be a blob of different people with no distinct cultural or social difference that build any kind of community. In fact, you could say communities wouldn't even exist because there's limited common ground. This might increase rates like depression, suicide, violence and even more censorship because so many different people living in one place with very conflicting ideals and expectations would just overwhelm people.
2. Despite what people think Nationalism can be a good thing, because you'd inspire people who may or may not feel worthless in a sea of variety to feel important among those you share borders with. The same thing with college sports teams, they have a common interest and that common interest can turn into motivation or give people a reason to fight for something
This isn't even getting into the government using globalism for greed, which seeing how Europe turned out, is very very daunting.
I agree with you, but every other race has their own countries that are vastly their own! So whites are not the only ones that needs diversely. In fact whites are probably the only ones that don't need diversity. For certain we need higher birth rates, but honestly it's all minorities racial minorities were taken out of the west, I think at first there would be an economic decline but eventually it would even out! Especially if direct action was taken to increase birthrates, social services burden would be much less, prisons would become lighter but still require the same workforce etc.
>A fucking leaf
Not functioning ones
Because it wouldn't be a collective.
You think you have more in common with a white genius than a black genius would have with him?
You are being very idealistic.
This is like saying a club with entry requirements "dehumanizes" those that don't meet them because they can't get in.
You need rules otherwise you end up including everything in the universe.
>So whites are not the only ones that needs diversely
Stop. Stop right now.
>Some people are rabbits and are actually almost physically incapable of conceptualizing a world where resources might run out
Yes. The globalist/trade growth mongers can't even comprehend the concept of not consuming everything in sight this instant. If it doesn't benefit them right now, it has no purpose - that includes people, plants/animals, and everything else in the world.
We need to start to de-overextend ourselves yesterday. And the only way to do that is to start building more complex local economies.
Doing anything else is a recipe for total disaster for future generations.
>black genius
Please, keep things within the realm of possibility
Misunderstand what I'm saying
>what is the nwo?
Nationalism puts the good of the group before the good of the individual. Socialism and nationalism go hand in hand, look at the Nazis.
Free trade is great, free movement is disastrous.
Your labor is the only resource that you inherantly own beyond any doubt. When the government can bring millions of third worlders in to flood the labor market it devalues that resource to next to nothinf. Great if you own buisnesses, but crippling if you depend on selling your labor.
Globalist free movement has turned everyone below the upper middle class into serfs.
Free trade isn't globalism
Globalism is the free movement of people across borders and attacking the concept of the nation-state
Internationalism not globalism leaf. Just because nations work together doesn't mean they should eternally destroy themselves.
Plus dependency is a bad thing.
Did you just assume this mans ableness you ableist shitlord? I would find you and shit in your mouth if I had a functioning anus.
I'm at awe. Can anything stop Canada from shitposting in Sup Forums?
>Socialism and nationalism go hand in hand
They can, but not always. If you don't have a culture with a strong sense of Nationalism, it's going in the shitter
Ironically enough, those who push Globalism (Jews) are usually ultra-nationalist, ultra-religious and place strict borders.
Globalism is for the goyim.
I would agree that free movement of people is bad free movement of goods is good for nations, but many nationalists have turned on free trade and now want tariffs.
>trading with a country means you have to accept millions of their illiterate terrorist sympathizing rapists
HURR DURR
I'm an angry young man, and without sovereignty this world would not be worth living in.
>For certain we need higher birth rates
Why? Please explain.
Undergrad polsci spotted.
You don't understand the levels things are taken to. A German can wave a flag at a sports event and want his country to win, that's nationalistic but not as far as a Nazi is.
Start thinking for yourself.
"nationalism = racism" types are the dumbest people I have ever met in any political discussion, and that includes "[x] wasn't communism".
We'd have to start saying Stalin was a Nazi barbecue he had his famous split with the trots of wanting "socialism in one country"