This is the Alt Left General.
>What separates you from leftists?
We are leftist but we reject Political Correctness, Degeneracy and (((Globalism))).
We believe in:
>Gun Rights
>Pro-Weed
>Universal Healthcare
>Labor Unions and Humane Wages
>Breaking Down Banks/Re-instate Glass-Steagall Act
>Renewable Energy such as Fusion and Nuclear
>Decriminalization of Victimless Crimes
>Self Determination of All Peoples who desire it
We ARE NOT Commies and I don't believe in Welfare.
We are Progressives.
How do you feel about the workers owning the means of production?
How do you feel about nationalism?
How do you feel about protecting the white race?
>alt left
More like control left.
You goys are just proto-fascists.
can we stop this alt left meme?
it's funnier if it was ctrl left
and SJW ARE THAT FUCKING "ALT LEFT" THIS IS A SLIDE THREAD
SAGE AND REPORT
Left is cancer, period. Fuck off
Fuck off to /leftypol/
>How do you feel about the workers owning the means of production?
The Employeer are a product of the people. Without the people, the employeer would have no product. Coporations and Banking Cartels have to respect the will of the people which includes humane wages.
>How do you feel about nationalism?
100%. I believe in self determination of everybody, an example being Kurds. Another example is China which denies
Tibetians, Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities a path to nationhood.
>How do you feel about protecting the white race?
I believe that all races should be protected provided they keep to their own and don't destroy the gene pool. Europe for White, Middle East for Arabs, Africa for Blacks, etc..
why are you replying to a literal bait thread?
Hahaha. Modern SJW Leftists are cancer but I can't imagine evangelical Neo Con Bootlickers being any better.
You support a police state, government spying, mass incarceration, and worst of all lowering our wages and benefits of the Working Class so we can compete with shitholes like India and China when THEY should be the ones improving the conditions in their country. We shouldn't degrade ourselves to their level.
So long as you are White nationalists then as an alter righter I couldn't care less.
I might be right wing but I like the enviroment and a whole lot of lefty issues.
>wages
Why? You'd be better off with worker owned cooperatives coming together under industrial guilds which would act as syndicates regulated by the state.
>100%. I believe in self determination of everybody, an example being Kurds. Another example is China which denies
Tibetians, Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities a path to nationhood.
Okay.
>I believe that all races should be protected provided they keep to their own and don't destroy the gene pool. Europe for White, Middle East for Arabs, Africa for Blacks, etc..
I'm fine with this. Your economic proposals sound like social democracy though. A national syndicalism or Strasserite national socialism seems more redpilled desu senpai.
Unions are fucking tumors on the economy
sounds like faggot nigger shit
That's more like national socialism than any kind of leftist ideology
Workers co ops are inefficient.
That's why they don't play a large role in the economy.
...
It's because they can't get loans from private banks which have nothing to gain considering the profits go to the workers as opposed to investors. Not to mention there are a few big cooperatives out there such as the Mondragon corporation.
Thats all classic lib shit minus the weed you fuckin blue haired cock stroking faggot.
Neo conservatism is a Jewish ideology.
Evangelicals are super cucks.
>police state
Build because intra-socialital conflict. Less diversity = less conflict. A homogeneous country doesn't need a police state.
>government spying
Same as above, unnecessary in a homogeneous country ran for the people.
>mass incarceration
Mass crime.
White homogeneous countries have very low crime = no mass incarceration.
>lowering our wages
The government and business should be run for the benefit of the people.
Stopping the lowering of wages means stopping immigration, especially from places with low wages. It also means protecting our economy as you say.
What about Eisenhower tax plan?
>it's really what made America great post WWII, and you fucking know it
FIRST STEP:
en.wikipedia.org
SECOND STEP:
thevenusproject.com
prove me wrong
>excuses
They can't get loans because investors know they will inevitably fail
LOL
Are you 12 years old?
MONEY AS A PARASITICAL ORGANISM
Imagine if the small group of elites that ACTUALLY benefit from a monetary system died randomly, and power wasnt passed down a rung, but the system continued onwards. Now you'd have a system that wasn't even benefitting a few twisted power-mad fucks, but everyone would be reliant upon it and
enslaved by it. It's literally channeling and creating an entity to be subservient to. Money is the thing which you give to non-murderers who need to make a living to become murderers. Money is the thing that is used
to control everything else. Even knowledge is now compromised; ideas are given a -monetary value-. This allows ideas to be controlled by money, not truth.
People are brainwashed and braindamaged by $$$ "economics" thinking that it is real and a "fact of life" and not a VOLUNTARY thing that should only exist if it benefits the average human. It does not.
>Simultaneous epidemics of obesity and and starvation
>ghost cities
>my grandad deserves this oil because he shot yours, you deserve to be a coal mine slave. Don't worry, i'll give you money for it
Absolute power corrupts. Look at people like Bill Gates. Do you think he was born planning to become a supervillain? No he was literally just a generic computer nerd. Give him billions of dollars and then he starts sterilising people and causing birth defects all because of the indirect subverted monetary interest.
Notice how elections are about "the economy" and "whats good for the economy" and GDP etc. But actual human welfare, average human benefit from this economy is irrelevant. Shit, its antithetical. If you created an infastructure that could cure all diseases, make limitless healthy food, 3d print all kinds of consumer goods that didnt break down, how would the monetary behemoth sustain itself? It couldn't, and thus it uses its millions of human slaves to keep it alive
It must be undone before they create an AI whose job it is to "keep the economy strong"; then we're fubard
>resource based economy
Not
>Not
An
>An
Argument
>Argument
Take 5 seconds. Breathe in, breathe out. Think.
why are you pro weed, are you retarded?
You are in wrong place.
All for stalin.
None for faggot half commies.
Personal belief
if you aren't nationalists or can't live beside nationalist without spreading socialist poison, you are the enemy and you donut belong here.
then dont speak for everybody, speak for yourself
>thevenusproject.com
"In a Resource Based Economy all goods and services are available to all people without the need for means of exchange such as money, credits, barter or any other means. For this to be achieved all resources must be declared as the common heritage of all Earth’s inhabitants. "
lol wut?
Funny, because those who are autistic are incredibly good at detail oriented, hyper systemised processing. AKA efficiency. What does the world lack efficiency? If you claim a resource based economy is autistic, you are saying it is hyper-systemised logical efficiency. I agree.
I know its hard to accept. We've lived in this system so long. I'm sure geocentrism felt the same way. First an idea is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Then it is self-evident. The transition won't be instant, but it will happen or else humanity will stay enslaved to itself.
Do you understand the concept of scarcity? Of a self-perpetuating system? Do you understand that if you prop up a system that requires scarcity to function, and give it power, it will engineer society so as to prevent a lack of scarcity? So as to prioritise profit over efficiency? Use the sense of reason you were given. Contribute. Help.
You are bootlicker trash. I am a nationalist but I recognize basic human needs which is a concept you can't seem to comprehend. I don't think 100% Welfare is good but you know where I'm getting at.
Fuck off you authoritarian faggot, I bet you cummed your pants when PATRIOT Act was passed
Its basically saying that
"Because my grandad shot yours, I deserve to own this wind turbine, and you must slave away 50 years of your life to receive a small portion of it"
is not ethically valid. Might does not make right.
Reminder that aggressive, government-mandated wealth redistribution is a tactic of the kikes, and anyone who identifies as an (((alt-leftist))) ITT is their agent.
If you seriously expect government intervention to facilitate "human wages" and universal healthcare/education, you cannot believe in a political system that also allows for true self-determination. To administer something universally implies that the ability to opt out of the system has been eliminated, and this is against the concept of self-determination.
>Degeneracy
Define your rejection of degeneracy, especially in regard to fags, trannies, atheism and feminism.
Are you in favor of diversity?
>Reminder that aggressive, government-mandated wealth redistribution is a tactic of the kikes, and anyone who identifies as an (((alt-leftist))) ITT is their agent.
That is something Schlomo would say.
You stupid fucking faggot. Why do you think we're calling it alt left. We are rejected stupid feminist nigger Marxist shit.
I'm tired of the demonization of liberals.
Are you race realists? Are you these guys: altleft.com ?
pro freedom.
i don't get why more right wingers aren't against bullshit drug laws. if heroin was legal would you start using it?
if yes your a fucking retard. but it shouldn't be illegal.
government should have no say in what your able to do with your own body.
oh no, some hippie scumbag thinks i'm a bad person!
neo-libs
> Might does not make right.
And what does?
Radical centrist?
An extreme middle?
Hahaha!
HAHAHA I am saying it is a stupid dream that can never work in principle or IRL.
It relies on a false premise. The universe not infinite, therefore scarcity. The Earth is not infinite, therefore scarcity.
I was in the Zeitgeist movement when I first got out of school.
*spoilers* It doesn't work. It is build on feelz. Communism with computers.
This is coming from a person who is learning Strasserism economics (derived from socialism/marxism)
Duuur huuuur i ned da gubmint to spy on me so i safe from terroriesm!!! braise Jesus!! waaaah stop regilating oil companies from killing dosans of marine life!!! aaaaaaaaaaa we need to keep
ISRAEL safe!!!!
youre basically 95% in agreement with the national socialists on this board except for maybe the means of production part and especially when you say:
>I believe that all races should be protected provided they keep to their own and don't destroy the gene pool. Europe for White, Middle East for Arabs, Africa for Blacks, etc
you sound more like a reformation of NatSoc than in any agreement with the left
and yes i agree with most of what the national socialists say myself
same, i hate SJW as much as the next person.
but i like national parks and roads. i could give a fuck about a national defense as long as i have my gun. all this wall bullshit is a waste of money.
I'm a fascist/national socialist, so I'm considered a "lefty"
>Gun Rights
Yes, but in my opinion, you should only be able to own 1 rifle and 1 pistol for self defense (For example: If someone to break into your home)
>Pro-Weed
No, it's a depressant, it's a very degenerate drug, it causes decision-making to slow down and makes people overall lazy. And if used at a young age it can impair learning abilities.
>Universal Healthcare
No, just, no.
>Labor Unions and Humane Wages
All for the labor unions thing; but I don't understand the "Humane Wages" term, but I can tell from they name of it, it sounds like something I wouldn't prefer.
>Breaking Down Banks/Re-instate Glass-Steagall Act
Okay that sounds fine
>Renewable Energy such as Fusion and Nuclear
Sounds nice
>Decriminalization of Victimless Crimes
Only for a certain few, not all.
>Self Determination of All Peoples who desire it
What does that even mean
However, I'm still a nationalist, which means even though I'm on the "lefty" scale, I still want all the minorities out.
think of a political compass
How do you guys feel about Social Capitalism.
Purge the SJW and the Neo-Marxist from your movement, then maybe we can start talking.
alt-left?
More like Ctrl-left
You forgot Del.
awww... that mean ol' oil! you should burn it if you hate it so much!
>Universal healthcare
It's unnecessary. If the pricing gap between the US and the rest of the world is addressed (i.e. unbanning drug importation), American drug prices would go down. We pay too much for our healthcare because we literally subsidize every other country on the planet.
oh, social capitalism, I meant National Capitalism not the same as State Capitalism.
>but we reject Degeneracy
>Pro-Weed
Sorry I missed all of the pro gun gays and jiggly puffs out there. Show me your best reaction gifs. Wait U don't have any.
How do you feel about one world currency?
they are just new-age hippie scum. if you want to help them, buy a firehose and donate to your local police department. free public baths.
the categorical imperative?
Its called strasserism
One World Currency
>One World
I'm not even touching that with at 10 foot pole.
>libertarian government makes heroin legal in the future
Well it makes sense. Freedom for all.
>a few years later, leftist government makes you pay treatment for the retards who got addicted and screwed their lives
To be left, though, means you are in favor of freedom.
Holy cow, rant much?
>Doesn't know a pick up line when he hears one
lurk moar
An Economic system where the Capital is used to benefit the society and its people and does not go against the interest of people of said society. Is there a type of economic system like this?
Monarchy
Economic system sven not Governmental Systems
i thought strasserism was more of a lets have a working class revolution and seize the means of production but degeneracy should still be banned jews should still be booted out and racial purity still upheld
Fuck off to /leftypol/
and by degeneracy i mean drugs and faggotry banned too
Found something plz read.
alternative-right.blogspot.com
If that's what you believe in then you're not alt-left, idiot. You're just left. Alt-left is the shit you see protesting on the streets and all the other degenerate filth.
but define freedom freedom to do what?
for example as evidenced by all OPs posts he is very much pro borders and believes races should be kept pure. in that sense it implies they do not have the freedom to just go wherever they want or fuck whoever they want
also for example the USSR was technically leftist but not by any means free
You got it.
>we are progressives
Code word for socialism
There is no such thing as the alt-left, it's all been tried before, but you tricky commie bastards just rebrand things so well. Have fun Peggy backing off the alt-right
Some form of nationalist capitalism that has yet to be invented.
Or
There is Strasserism
fuck off nazi scum
would strasserism even work?
how similar is it to "traditional" national socialism? (like what hitler did)
is it more left leaning than natsoc?
Its not left leaning at all.
...
Cux
Alt-Left is a bunch of fags. Get out of the temple you cocksucking idiots.
So the CTR shills who got fired are shilling for alt-left now? The Sup Forums catalog is full of "muh alt-left".
it's a fucking /leftypol/ raid, go fuck yourselves.
test
>man with ass for forehead has aids
>this is newsworthy now
It is more left leaning. This was the left part of the party that got purged in the Night of the Long Knives.
They wanted a workers revolution but the right part of the Nazi party didn't want anymore revolution.
It's a more primordial aspect of Natsoc and it was their from the movement the NSDAP was founded
I have had a very long conversation with someone learning strasserism and every issue I raised with it was solved.
So I am very sure it would work. And I mean work on a logical level.
There is property rights and personal ownership which differs from the fault of communism.
There is no private banks, no interest, no inflation. Basically what we had within Europe a thousand years ago.
As said, I asked all the tough questions, (wouldn't no interest cause decreased money flow etc etc) I am libertarian in my economics btw.
Na it is, it is socialist after all.
>>Decriminalization of Victimless Crimes
like what? theft?
I like distributism, personally.
So... You basically Nazis?
(((Progressives))). Are you retarded?
Its so fucking Left leaning that I really don't know the difference between Right or Left its not even in the Political scale, I guess thats why they call it The Third Position.
keep pushing this shit boys, make political ideologies great again
its rare to find someone who describes themselves as socialist that doesnt buy into the identity politics meme, with the exception of 40+ year olds that have worked as a tradie their entire life
also what do you guys think of a centralised economy?
>Decriminalization of Victimless Crimes
This is a bad idea. Morality needs to be re-legislated, to counteract the alienating forces unleashed by capitalism.
Individualism will have to be curbed, or you will forever get rootless cosmopolitan SJW cunts.