>I want even more taxation
>I want more protectionism
>I want even more bureaucracy
>I want even more to be told by the bureaucrats what to do
>Viva la Republique without muslims and without liberty!
How is she different from the left-wing establishment again?
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She's the only person who can save French from going extinct.
As opposed to her running mates who wish you to lay taxes AND bend over for Muslims.
Also, render unto Caesar, we're a Christian board faggot.
If you were infested with subhuman, Muslim trash like France or Germany you would know that we need hope from somewhere.
I can't believe this board still habors some (((libertarians))) of course it's a Pollack too
There is literally nothing wrong with a state when it is run by your own kind and works in the interests of your own kind
It's too late for french people anyways.
(You)
You're the autistic polack who got triggered in that french elections thread, I can tell.
People explained to you why she's right-wing but you're too fucking dumb to understand.
I don't know Nippon history but I'm sure there must have been some struggle for rights and freedom in Japan? Or were the Japanese always dumb enough to literally commit suicide on airplanes just because the empero told them to?
Nobody has written to me anything you dumb moron, Idk what you're talking about
This
>muh islamaphobia
Fuck you nigger. I can't tell you how happy I was to hear shes in the final round and I'm not even a french fry. It's your turn France, Frexit the globalism.
>>Viva la Republique without muslims and without liberty!
Liberty can be easily regained, demographic replacement is forever.
>I don't know Nippon history but I'm sure there must have been some struggle for rights and freedom in Japan?
Literally never
> Or were the Japanese always dumb enough to literally commit suicide on airplanes just because the empero told them to?
Yes they were, they've only been free the last 50 years and look how fucked up they end up being.
>I don't know Nippon history but I'm sure there must have been some struggle for rights and freedom in Japan?
Literally never
I'm not an expert on the subject but the Sengoku era ws full of strife and suffering while warlords waged bloody battle for the right to unify and rule Japan. The struggle of rights and freedom would bring about the meji restoration and eventually the Japan we know today. basically 1400-1600 Japan was the most metal and darwinian place. it doesn't take a weeb to appreciate that history.
>letting refugees vote
Please tell me you aren't really doing this.
couldn't be more wrong, Pedro
From someone whose country has had its reputation tarnished for centuries so systematically that it received a term to describe it ( la leyenda negra) you'd expect more objective and non biased thought : )
Finally someone gets it.
The FN is nothing more than yet another socialist party, just like every single party in France.
It's simple, in that cucked shithole you can't get any vote if you aren't all about muh welfare, muh pensions, muh healthcare, muh free education, muh free shit, and muh ultra powerful state that dictates what citizens must do, think, or speak at all times.
It seems Frenchmen just cannot live without having some powerful figure leading every single aspect of their lives.
If some libertarian politician suddenly appeared and said "hey, I want to cut all taxes, reduces the VAT, give more freedom to companies to create jobs and purchasing power, give total free speech and gun rights to everyone, give real political representation to the people", he would be mocked and ridiculed by the media and wouldn't get a single vote.
That's just how France is, don't expect anything, even if the FN were to win, nothing would change.
From what I'm seeing (with Brexit, all the parties in Europe etc.) all of this "nationalist" bullshit is just a scheme to introduce complete totalitarianism and there's no way to escape.
What does Brexit have to do with totalitarianism?
>la leyenda negra
well you were the one that created that in the first place so shut up
exactly, before the west, samurais slayed entire villages for fun
>even if the FN were to win, nothing would change.
t. Henry Levy
Did you miss the introduction of the worst mass surveillance system in history? And it's not stopping at that.
Also reminder that Le Pen wants to fucking NATIONALIZE the banks
oy vey not the banks
Yeah and what are you going to do about the dozens of millions of shitskins with French citizenship? France is not like Germany. We have more than 10 millions of shitskins for more than 20 years. Our current problem isn't migrant crisis. Calais is nothing if you compare it with our "French" shitskin problem.
You know, she's not going to use a gas chamber. She considers them as fully French, as much as a pure white French. They don't see a race problem.
No she's not right wing for fuck's sake.
She's more socialist than our current socialists.
She wants more tax, more State-controlled companies, unions and so on.
The only difference is that she doesn't want to give welfare to non-French citizens (because reminder there is NO notion of race even with the FN party) so all other welfare queens can get more. Trash attracts trash. White trash, nigger trash, muslim trash, trash remains trash.
And guess what nigger, if you cut welfare for everybody (except maybe free school and hospital for very serious life threatening illnesses such as cancer), suddenly most shitskins will disappear.
Even if the men still work in France (jobs that nobody wants to do), their parasitic wives will shut the fuck up and stay at home in their shithole.
>Voting for a woman
You guys just don't learn uh?
the Pole is afraid. brexit led to anti polish sentiments in the UK, Trump is not a fan of NATO and wants to renew the dialogue with Putin, Marine Le Pen is similar to trump regarding russia, and Poland decided to make jesus as king of poland in hope it will protect them.
The Pole is afraid.
stop being a cuck
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Even your fellow Frenchmen admit I'm correct Pierre so fuck off
That's a literal shoah!
Everyone knows the banks belong to the jews..I mean, to the free market.
>that cucked shithole you can't get any vote if you aren't all about muh welfare, muh pensions, muh healthcare, muh free education, muh free shit
yes that's why sarko got elected
kek
stfu jew, all muslims must be killed if they are in europe
>>I want more protectionism
>implying protectionism is bad
watchu doing Rabbi?
Sarkozy didn't lift up any of these.
And when he tried pushing for his retirement law look at the mess it made.
Yeah because Sarkozy removed all of that shit right?
>implying Sup Forums understands how the economy works
>implying Sup Forums doesn't just care about MUH IMMIGRANTS
After the west's nationalist revolution we should meme a libertarian revolution.
In France when someone wants to talk about Marine it is to shit on her, her supporters don't waste time arguing with retards.
what's the purpose of paying less taxes when you get snackbar'd anyway?
Sarkozy got hit by the crisis. Are you denying that his compaign wasn't all about working more to earn more?
fools
Britain is still part of the EU.
There's a difference between "Marine Lepen is a nazi!!!" and pointing out her weaknesses.
I concur, most of her "red" (ie leftist) opponents are still riding on the "racist"/nazi meme and that's pretty retarded.
But thinking her like a savior is something wrong. You guys are desperate to the point of defending EVERYTHING about her.
She's a lazy asshole like most politicians who never had a real job except getting assigned two shitty cases when she was a layer, and who has absolutely no idea how real world works.
Enjoy your "slips français".
All of this pales in comparison to the election campaign her opposition is running which boils down to "I want more Muslim immigration".
So? Brexit directly got May in power.
whitepill me on Le Pen. How will she overcome the 2nd round of voting?
FN can get 40% and there can be 12 other parties only getting 5% each, but in the run-off all the anti-nationalist faggots band together and they still end up beatig FN 60%-40% basically.
Even the right-wing party in france is totally cucked. Since FN has no "allies", this basically means FN has to win 51% in the first round - be a majority even among like 6 different parties.
The french system is designed to make sure bad goyim never get into office.
People mostly elected him for the "racaille" problem back then. They loved his kärcher skit.
And then you have that solid "hard working" middle class demography who has always been more or less the same. They basically wanted less shit for lazy assholes and more for them, that's all. He never ever entirely contested the welfare system. The FN effectively used that strategy again but with a broader appeal.
I think most of the time the problem with us smaller, unknown countries, is that we just don't realize how bad you guys have it.
As a Slovenian I go out, I see only Slovenians, so then I go on Sup Forums and I think wow, why are people such alarmists, they're exaggerating, it can't be that bad.
It's just hard to connect for us. OP is Polish....
What the fuck are you even going on about?
Isn't Sarkozy the half-kike who told the french people that they have an obligation to interbreed with mudskins?
Remember that if she ever get President, she won't even be able to govern given the Parliament won't be favourable to her.
who fucking cares, it's about making (real) anti-muslim and national preference issues acceptable to the eye of the public.
Once she win against all the european establishment (be it political or medias) you can elect your redpilled libertardian in the next elections, because the system would explode and thus the political scene would be freer.
It's about shifting the overton window to the right and we need to do it now, not in fucking 10 years when it will be too late.
>The french system is designed to make sure bad goyim never get into office.
a bit like the American system.
Instead of having two parties, we have a lot of parties but only two get elected.
It's the same shit for presidentials. But it's better when voting for the assemblée, if she manages to get the majority of the assemblée and does a good job, she'll be able to convince more and more French. It's simple.
Finally, someone got it.
She is by no mean right-wing, she betrayed her father and his ideals. Apart from her soft anti-migrant policies it would be hard to differentiate her from leftists.
Yes.
Thing is, France has officially banned the use of the word "race". There's no official notion of it. It got suppressed from the French constitution. Thus why most people didn't give a damn about it.
France is an historical lefty country, the french revolution, napoleon making universities and obligatory school attendance, taxes to make all this run.
The system works, look at the scandinavian countries before immigration and feminism.
the problem is mud-people are leeching on this system, there's no sufficient authority and control, the social security is plummeting because every dindus and kebabs are rushing to emergency rooms instead of going to the doctor, they can still earn money when unemployed through chômage, they don't contribute to the economy with black market and drugs.
Just get rid of this problem and a "socialist" community would work just fine. Only a few things are nationalized, france was never and will never be a communist country.
IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!!!!1
If she wins do my brethren from Portugal get deported back to this country?
Her biggest issue right now is money. FN only has 4 million euros in the bank. Shes gunna have to run an incredible, strategic campaign and hope that the French people are woke enough to vote for her without tons of media coverage.
>dropping this big a truth bomb
Well, yes and no. In the American system, you'll never get anywhere running 3rd party. Instead what you do if you just pick whichever of the two parties that best-fits your ideas. So the GOP is conservative, but there are the neocons and there are libertarians like ron/rand paul and now there's a nationalist/populist like Trump. So in this way, candidates with new political ideologies can make it, but they have to work within the party framework instead of making a new party for every special snowflake difference in opinion.
this is what happens when you base your nationalism around a piece of paper
Frenchbro can you tell me what's the difference between Sarko and Juppe? I'd like to know better than the first is fucking retarded and the second might be too soft on mudlslimes
No it's not, she'll have all the money she needs.
And for media coverage, don't worry she is on TV whenever she want.
She was on air this day for example. But she prefers to send her lieutenants often time.
>The system works
The system makes you totally reliant on the good will of the government
A socialist environment will lead to a corrupted shithole no matter what. It's a matter of time.
People get corrupted. At one moment or another, feminism will prevail in a socialist community. It had always prevailed. History showed us such episodes. Patriarchal socialists are long lost and forgotten.
My white family has many trashes who act barely better than niggers.
Sure, there are many shitskins leeching off but I know many white people doing it, and proudly so. It leads anybody to a trash-like state.
Can she take a page from Trump's playbook and trick the media into giving her free coverage?
You're not going to fucking deport all the people that are already there. It's not going to happen, among the complete impracticality of it it would go against the Liberty that built France in the first place.
Your best hope is you don't want to see a non-white majority in France in the next 50 years is to cut immigration massively and hope the people that are already there integrate and stop having 5+ children.
You would never remove the welfare state completely, even if you could why would you want to, except libertarian reasons? I consider myself somewhat libertarian yet I cannot deny that the NHS has been successful in saving a lot of lives in my country over the year and it's good for ACTUAL British people who are poor as fuck. Besides people would still want to come because France is richer. Even a terrible minimum wage job is still better than working in fucking Morocco or wherever the fuck they're from.
The only way to stop these people coming for sure is getting someone in power who is actually willing to cut immigration, as long as you are in the EU they will kick the ball around and say it's because of Brussels they can't cut it.
We also have that in France.
Different parties only exist for the big differences.
The christian democratic party have always been with the Republicans, their candidate runs as a Republican.
Juppe is a lefty in denial.
Sarko is corrupt guy addicted to power.
>libertardian
>The system makes you totally reliant on the good will of [insert company name]
So wouldn't it behoove Le Pen to ditch FN and Run as a Republican?
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>If some libertarian politician suddenly appeared and said "hey, I want to cut all taxes, reduces the VAT, give more freedom to companies to create jobs and purchasing power, give total free speech and gun rights to everyone, give real political representation to the people", he would be mocked and ridiculed by the media and wouldn't get a single vote.
You live in France and have voting rights. If you actually believe in those principles then he'd still get at least one vote. You don't even have a true 'first past the post' voting system so it's not like being a 3rd-party supporter in America.
See, everyone, this kind of person is exactly what i'm talking about here This guy thinks his socialist bullshit works, as long as the state is authoritarian enough (even though it cannot possibly be more authoritarian than it is right now, unless Hollande turned into fucking Staline or Mao) and that shitskins are removed from the equation.
He doesn't want freedoms, he doesn't want to pay less taxes, he doesn't want to be able to own a property that fully belongs to him without having to pay a load of shit to the state every year.
He wants to give half of his salary to the state, he wants his shitty welfare and free shit, he wants his shit cucked up as much as possible, he is the embodiment of the average Frenchman.
This is what the FN vote represents, nothing is going to change, nothing.
>He doesn't know french politics
We don't sperg when we hear the word taxes
she's anti-establishment, she has criticized the Reps since the beginning. It wouldn't make any sense for her to join the ones she publicly hates so much.
Also, the Reps are right-wing, her voters are mostly left-wingers.
part of her campaign this summer was literally
>Léon Blum would have voted FN
Juppé is a massive cuck who's all for a general appeasement. I like to call him a "caramel mou", which is "soft caramel candy". He's useless as fuck and he has already proven to be a shitty politician in the past. People like him because he's no-balls and just calls for "peace" (and yet he fucking hates Russia and is all for a full blown war on Assad).
Sarkozy is more of an energyball opportunist. I don't like him not because he's half-kike, but simply because he doesn't hold any true belief. He's a mere opportunist who knows what political memes work well. Back then he won with the "let's work more for more money" and the "shitskin youth problem". Now he copycats Marine Lepen except that he's more right-wing in his economic policies. But it's fake as fuck so that's why nobody is rooting for him anymore.
Pretty sure his campaign managers are pretty spot-on and know what are the current political memes.
>A socialist environment will lead to a corrupted shithole no matter what. It's a matter of time.
every environment gets corrupted, that's why we need authority and control, nothing to do with socialism
>Patriarchal socialists are long lost and forgotten.
you seem to have bought the progressive meme "things have changed".
people who know history know that societies don't "evolve", people before you weren't dumber because they didn't have access to modern science and tech. Patriarchal socialists societies happened and worked, it can be done again. there's no such thing as "long lost and forgotten" in history.
Thats exactly whats happening. Shes getting all of her media coverage by shocking lefty news outlets that shes even a threat.
so...
doesn't matter left or right.
socialist or nationalist.
white people country works and the rest suck ass?
>We don't sperg when we hear the word taxes
For the same reason people apparently don't sperg when they see muslim immigrants. Connect the points you retard. You would like to see everything separate, not as an integral unity
>MUH FREEDUM
Why don't you go the USA? Really. Why don't you just go?
France has never worked like that, and it never will.
Yea, the money is just going to materialize from thin air.
epic strawman m8
Joseph de Maistre didn't like the state interfering with the economy because the Jacobins have nationalized foreign trade in France and France was the first country to issue papers reglamenting the food
We already have much less incoming immigrants than 20 years ago. Hell, we have much less than the UK.
We already have DOZENS of millions of shitskins who all have at least 5 kids per couple.
The French problem isn't like Germany. We don't get that many migrants proportionally.
We already have too many French shitskins. That's the true problem. And there are more and more of them, they all have French citizenships.
>not in fucking 10 years when it will be too late.
It's already too late dipshit. Unless you are going to outright advocate rounding up all of them and gassing them, or ending all welfare programs that the """"french""""" citizens live off of, they will live in their ghettos and breed like fucking rabbits until they outnumber you.
Electing some socialist catlady bitch who genuinely sees no fundamental problem with what's happening (she just wants "reasonable" levels of mass third world immigration) isn't going to help you one fucking bit.
Hell, both of our countries are living like pic related and anything at this point is like Hitler in his bunker commanding imaginary armies in early 1945.
Russians materialize it for her.
Banks will lend her money too.
No I never said that "things have changed".
I said that patriarchal socialists are forgotten because current day socialists don't want to hear about them. They make them look "not so progressive". And it didn't happen on a full blown scale. They were quickly overthrown by their progressive counterparts. They never last long enough.
>France has never worked like that, and it never will.
Not with your lovely brown replacements. :^)
HHHNNNNGGGHHHHHHHH
>They never last long enough
Adolf can testify
I really hope France puts an end to the Alt-Right's momentum.
Adolf Hitler would have put lazy white trash in gas chambers along with kikes and niggers.
If you Frogs allow Angela Merkel to finance candidates it will split your vote and the EU wins..
LePen is the only candidate with a sack. If LePen does not win then free countries must consider that your Nuclear Arsenal will be controlled by Islam.
We cannot allow Islam access to the French stockpile.
Trump will take action. Maybe neutron warheads so we can go in in a couple weeks. Just remember Frogs. We do not know whose side you are on at this point. Same with you German Douchelanders. How the fuck could you allow what Islam has done to your children and wives. No wonder they no longer respect you.
The white world is calling g you cowards. Sure we had to clean up the banana peels from around our whitehouse but we did it!
Better than pulling trigger. Vote LePen and when we see the EU army roll I to France we'll take them out for you. We still remember what you did at Chesapeake Bay for us.
so ?
>Adolf Hitler would have put lazy white trash in gas chambers
well this my friend, could save our nation !
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