Anarcho-Fascism General

This is a thread for discussion about the Anarcho-Fascist ideology and for redpills about Anarcho-Fascisms. No memes or bullshit, only serious discussion.

>anarcho-fascism

wut. That's a joke ideology, right?

what

why don't you start by defining fascism

I'm more of a libertarian authoritarian myself.

> one creates a system of autoritharian hierarchy
> the other creates anarchy
> thinks somehow the are compatible

>le ancap maymay

Jack Donovan is a faggot

Can we talk about Ancap-Communism as well?

This

Anti-Individualist pro-collectivist anarchism that encourages non-degenerate traditional values and pride for your culture race and the collective.

Let's talk about anarcho-prim-technocracy next.

>when even anarcha-feminism gets its own wikipedia page but your political ideology doesn't

aren't anarchy and fascism the opposites?
Unless I'm missing something

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Lots of newfriends here. I suggest you to listen to Donovan on anarcho-fascism and to get a full grasp on the definition of anarchism and fascism.

Fascism doesn't necessary mean a state. It means a return to traditional values anti-individualism and a strong people. the "fascism inherently means state" is pretty much a meme

> his definition of anarchism and fascism
FTFY

I will never understand any form of anarchy.

How can you enforce a lack of hierarchy without someone acting as an authority over others? If a group of people have voluntarily created a hierarchy, what moral right do you have to violate their chosen way of life?

What's hilarious is that all of the land already is owned.

I understand the goals and what total fascism means, it's just the word anarchy that confuses me. Because usually, anarchy means the opposite of control over an individual.

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did you come here for a discussion, just to tell us to go read nigga?

well, besides anarcho-primitism, other types of anarchy have a rule, but with smaller power and zero control over anything but enforcing basic human rights

This is actually possible. Very stupid, but possible.

Technocracy just means that you're trying to apply scientific process and scientific process only to decision making.

I'm sorry what?

>Anarchism
No State
>Fascism
>All State

excuse me

>No memes or bullshit, only serious discussion.

They dont know what it means either

Mussolini and gentile would disagree with your completely arbitrary definition of fascism. This "degeneracy" talk only came about post 1950s

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>Fascism doesn't necessary mean a state

I've rarely read anything this fucking retarded on Sup Forums.

As I understand it, anarchy simply means the lack of a hierarchy.

Which makes no sense when paired with fascism, considering one of the key defining traits of fascism as proposed by Mussolini is the concept of a singular ruler who acts as the living embodiment of the state. The ruler is the state, and the state is the ruler. This is wholly at odds with any concept of a classless society without hierarchy.

I somewhat dig his work
But I get the feeling hes just larping as a homosexual Tyler Durden and having orgies in the forrest with his gang of super-hardcore-manly wannabee barbarians
His defintion of masculinity is a relateable approach for me
But the applicatio of this approach to modern times not so much

>Anarcho-Fascism
>only serious discussion
honestly surprised that OP is not a leaf

kek this is meme thread now

>womyn

>Anti-individualist pro-collectivist anarchism


That's, like, all the bad ideologies smashed into one, son

anarcho-memism amirite

No, nobody has over the people, there is simply a collective established to keep society and the community from falling to degeneracy and chaos.

You should have a grasp about anarcho-Fascism and anarchism in general if you want to have a coherent discussion

>Fascism
>All state
That is a meme. You see the original theorists of proto-fascism like Julius Evola didn't intend a state that owns everything, they just wanted a society that had traditional non-degenerate values and pride, anarchism itself is not necessarily an ideology that limits itself to a few ideological talking points like Anarcho-Capitalism or Anarcho-Communism, any ideology can be applied to anarchism as long as the state and hierarchy is abandoned.

What? A totalitarian ideology existing within an Anarchistic society?

Does not compute.

What I hate about leftists is that they are so convinced of their intellectual superiority that they think they can duct tape unrelated ideologies together and somehow make it work. This is just the right-wing version of that.

which is exactly the reason I got confused about him saying anarcho-fascism

>the original theorists of proto-fascism like Julius Evola
That's not what fascism is. Evola was never a fascist. Go read some Gentile, you fucking faggot

>anarchi-fascism
You're very close, but that's just fucking retarded

I'll give you a hint
>National Minarchism

>That is a meme.
No it isn't lmao stop trying to distort truth just cos you don't like it

by control, I mean restrictions that are meant to keep a status-quo, and preserve a society, not mind control.

>SZS
Thanks for the sudden nostalgia moot.

>hasn't heard of anarcho-communism

Why add the anarcho? Why not just plain vanilla fascism?

>right wing beliefs and capitalism compatible with anarchism

AMERICAN EDUCATION

Difference is that Communism is theoretically supposed to be stateless.

Fascism is theoretically a totalitarian state, and that's what it is in practice too.

You've never read Kropotkin because that's an Alex Jones tier misinterpretation of the ideology. You probably skimmed the Wikipedia page at most faggot

This thread is nosense shit.
Stop falling for this meme pls.

Evola was the founding father of fascism. Marx didn't identify with Marxism but he ironically was a Marxist. Also Gentile was a meme created by Mussolini that doesn't even come close in intellectual capability to Evola.

Well you see all trust is built upon the collective that should keep the society and community anarcho-fascist, it is merely human nature.

Not an argument

What? Wait, this is not really a thing is it? Those are exclusive terms, you cannot be both.

I'm a republican monarchist libertarian communist. AMA.

>Protofascists weren't all about the state

Look up gumplowicz, mosca, and pareto, three of the biggest influencers of Mussolini and gentile you absolute retard

You can't argue about something that's fact. You're trying to insist that water isn't in fact wet.

Evola was never a fascist. He disagreed with fascism because he did not believe in populist movements. After the war the allies investigated him and found no proof of any connection to the fascist party.

He was a fucking absolute monarchist for Christ's sake. Which is probably as far away from anarchy as you can possibly get. In one system, you are the literal property of an unquestionable hereditary ruler, and the other system seeks to free everyone from the bonds of a hierarchy.

All you are thinking of is a extreme traditionalist society, which is absolutely unenforceable without a government to enforce tradition.

Mussolini's Italy wasn't real fascism, Evola is the original founding father of fascism.

Then tell me, explain how fascism isn't compatible with anarchism, I'll wait for your argument.

yes, I see what you are meaning, but I recommend calling it neo-fascism instead, to not confuse people.

Is this flag even rare?

Because it's about totalitarianism. All within the state, nothing outside of the state, nothing against the state.

Anarchism is stateless. When are the mods gonna delete this thread?

yea kinda

Social ostracism and culture.

Mussolini's Italy in its infancy was the closest to real fascism the world has ever gotten.

Evola is NOT the founding father of fascism, he even declared himself ANTI-FASCIST!

Pareto, Mosca, and Gumplovicz were the true founding fathers of fascism.

"The ruling class is a minority that embodies the will of the people and moves them in a direction because mob rule is bad", "Societies organize around a charter myth that doesn't necessarily have to have any actual truth value" (which is perhaps the most powerful idea of fascism. Your state can be shit but as long as the people believe it's the best, you can achieve greatness), "People are divided more by nationality than class and we must unite as nation-states instead of as proletariat"

These are the ideas that drove mussolini, gentile, and all real fascists (eg not hitler)

>absolute fucking monarchist
Evola wasn't really anything, he created fascism but he didn't stay and sink in one ideology.

>Mods delet pls
Totalitarianism isn't fascism though, fascism really can be applied either way as long as there are traditional values enforced and teached.

Even the communist manifesto was based on the French revolution. Communism wasn't meant to be stateless until all the dissenters and anyone unhappy with the changes were killed off by "The dictatorship of the proletariat".

Furthermore, for those who are actually interested in fascism, read The Ideology of Fascism by James Gregor. Fucking A+ fantastic book.

So it's fascism?

Best place to be is right between AnCap and Minarchist.

???Profit.

Ok, saved.
Thanks greatest ally.

cheers mate. and Im just curious, did you look at that picture with the flags on an iceberg to see if it is rare?

Yup, the one with name tags, wasn't on there.

>Brazil in charge of smart politics

hue

>Anti-Individualist pro-collectivist
So communism? :DDDDD

kek

>mfw I've seen so many Polandball comics I thought this was Poland

just call it survivalism

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I think we need to have intervention with anarchists. You can't slap "anarcho" onto everything and still come out with a viable political philosophy.

You're not bacon, adding yourself to everything doesn't magically make it better.

>You're not bacon, adding yourself to everything doesn't magically make it better.

Top kek for the self-aware burger.