Defend this

Defend this.
>Protip: you can't

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goal wasn't to get the popular vote, both candidates would have had different strategies during the general if it were.

it's like saying the hare should have been considered the winner in the tortoise and the hare story because the hare was faster even though the tortoise crossed the goal first

3 million illegal votes.

maybe she should have hired smarter harvard twinks to advise her on how elections are won?

Fuck, did they blow their billions of campaign funds just on truvada and meth?

Irrelevant measurements for 500 Alex.

I don't give a shit, democracy is a sham.

Hur dur more retards who don't understand how a republic works.

he played the game by the rules and won

Voter ID would make sure the illegal alien vote didn't count.

kudos to Hillary for beating trump in a contest they were not having.

What's there to defend?

Clinton got the Popular Vote.
Trump got the Electoral College.

Only the latter actually matters.

>what is NY and CA
Trump didn't need popular vote, he strategically went to states that were swing states. He needed electoral votes, and he got them. Stay mad

Honestly, the Clintons probably pocketed a large portion of that money.
It wouldn't be the first time they stole money that was donated for a different purpose.

I can defend it because Trump won. If Trump had lost election but won popular vote, i'd be bitching.

That's right, thats a huge double standard. I don't care. Go fuck yourself.

Hillary won the contest they weren't having

Voter fraud and vote flipping.

Even with election fraud, you lost.

Article II section 1.

>No IDs
>No IDs
>No IDs

two close-to 50% numbers making this choice is way too unreliable

if there is a widespread opinion across the country it will be represented

>6 mil illegals voted who legally cant vote in 49 states
>hillary only wins the popular vote by 2 mil
oh sure op your right what were we thinking of course hillary won but you know what this is a testament to the weakness of the left.

even when you win you still lose. now go cry in a pillow and then sell your body to pay the rent

Easy, all those dead and fraudulent voters the democrats are known for. And the voter fraud democrats were exposed committing by people like based O'keefe.

>trying to make Amerifats understand what democracy means

Taking into account the amount of illegals voting for Clinton, and the multiple accounts of voter/election fraud leading up to and during the election, Clinton winning the "popular vote" was to be expected.

tfw the system works

It's not a fucking democracy, it's a fucking constitutional republic. If I have to say it one more time I'm going to fucking melt. In a pure democracy, the majority wins, but when the majority is wrong, the country dies. The constitutional republic stops this by giving the minority more representation in government to defeat mob rule. If more people lived in the city than the country in a pure democracy, the cityfolk would tell the countryfolk how to live, which would destroy the natural balance of things. In our government, everyone is represented on an equal playing field. The founding fathers researched types of government extensively before deciding on something, and they found that pure democracies don't fucking work. They weren't retards, contrary to most liberal leftist's opinions.

source?

>thinking America is a democracy

dont have to

Fucking this.

Jeb pls.

The USA is a union of states, not a homogeneous entity.

>defend this

but i don't have to

>white hillbilly votes worth 100 times as much as any coastal kekhold

you should have just stayed home!

No. :^)

niggerfornia republic

>Defend this.
>>Protip: you can't

Protip: We don't have to

the US is a constitutional republic, not a direct democracy

if you really had a problem with the electoral college you would have had it changed back in 1824

>1 post by this ID

Low energy bait

SAGE

My thoughts exactly.

This
>blue states who went blue just topple the popular vote

Hillary also won popular vs Obama in 2008

I literally dont need to.

states' rights, cunt

Trump won the popular vote.
3 million of hers were from illegal immigrants.

infowars.com/report-three-million-votes-in-presidential-election-cast-by-illegal-aliens/
There are no reports, he is still working on it

so where'd all those extra votes come from

>illegals
>winning a contest they werent having
thats all

The Electoral College

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White areas are the places where Putin should drop the bombs?

3 million illegal votes cast by illegal immigrants
all for Shillary

Zombie voters. Woo.

How many of those were nonwhites and women that never should have been given the vote in the first place?

We don't need to defend it, for we bask in the golden glory of the ascendant Emperor of America, anointed by the grace and will of the holy Frog.

sage these threads.

Three million illegals voted.

Defend it? Okay.

The popular vote doesn't mean shit. If it did, the turnout and campaigns would've been completely different.

>Defend it?
America just got her pussy grabbed
> THAT'S THE JOKE

Defend Hillary's voter fraud
>protip: you can't

This

Protip: no one cares.

Illegals + Dead voters + fake ballots all went to Hillary

I'm not a Trump supporter, but he makes a good point when he says that if popular vote won the election, his strategy would have been different. The candidates are on equal ground.

if the popular vote doesn't count? why waste millions of taxpayer money on it?

WHY DOESNT SHE JUST ASK FOR A RECOUNT??? oh, because she'll lose a few million

Why do these threads still get so many serious replies. This non issue has been addressed so many times already.

Alright, shill fuck, I'll bite. you want a defense? Here you go. Pic related.

You live a favela in a jungle ruled by a cartel drug lord

Fuck do you know of a working democracy?

this is like saying the Russians won the space race, sure they were the first to do literally everything but the race was being the first country to land on the moon and nothing else

Yeah I can. Popular vote means jack shit. The electoral college and elector votes are what really decides. I understand you are having a hard time grasping that.

I should also ammend that you still win by popular vote in the US....

...by state, which, if you know anything about how the fuck this country is structured, is built around the right of a state to govern itself.

nuke california

If I keep saying this it will become true.
>inb4 some no name twitter account with no link to proof or a report

Have ANY of you "America is not a democracy, it's a republic" people have taken Poli Sci 101? When people call the United States a democracy in the modern times they don't mean it as the Founding Fathers understood the word. To the Founding Fathers, democracy meant a direct democracy with little to no use of representatives. To modern society, democracy means the people having a say in their government, whether through representatives or through initiatives or referendums, or a mix of both. What would you call the United Kingdom which allows the British people to elect representatives and in some cases vote on legislation (see Brexit)? It's both a democracy and a monarchy. Monarchy, along with republic, is a term that describes where the ultimate legitimacy of government lies. Democracy is a term that describes how power is distributed (through elections) and wielded (through representatives). Remember that words in the English language evolve and often times have more than one meanings depending on the context.

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The counties not shown on that map contain half of the US population. That is why mob rule will never be good for the USA. True democracy is volatile without a check on its power.

U.S. Civics. Do you speak it, faggot?

ILLEGALS CAN VOTE

DEAD PEOPLE CAN VOTE

EXPLAINED...NEXT

popular vote + 4$ will get you a shitty cup of coffee

cry more faggot

sage

SOURCE: REALITY
THE THING THAT DESTROYS THE LIBSHIT

Well the US isn't a democracy so.................

pic related

Ohhh youuu

there was an info graphic, but I can't find it. basically the us is a country of states not of a strong federal government-at least in the beginning-so the election is decided by who wins the most states not the most individual votes. the reason for this is because if it was decided by whoever go the most votes, the idea of states rights would be essentially meaningless because the big states would have absolute power over the smaller ones.

it's basic history really, if you'd have payed any attention in school rather than smoking weed all day you'd know this.

Protip: Trump is the next President

Voting five times in a state Hillary took doesn't increase her electoral vote, only her popular vote.

Does anyone else have sexual thoughts about Taylor Swift?

>Have some unorganized copypasta that I don't remember the source.

The terms originated in the classical world. Classical authors divided government into four types: monarchy, aristocracy, democracy, or republic. The only qualification for these governments was the amount of people given power. In a monarchy, one person was in control. In an aristocracy, a small group of individuals was in control. In a democracy, the general populace was in control.

The term republic was first coined to simply mean a government and public services, (respublica, "public thing") but eventually came to refer to a form of "mixed government". Executive and judicial public offices, usually controlled by one or two magistrates, represented the "monarchic" branch. The Senate, usually controlled by the upper classes of society, represented the "aristocratic" branch. The assemblies, elections and juries where people could vote on public officials and crimes represented the "democratic" branch.

Nowadays, "democracy" refers to any form of government where the government derives its legitimacy from the people, and a republic refers to a form of government in which the Head of State is appointed, elected or alloted rather than inherited. Therefore, under the old definition America is a Republic and not a Democracy, since it maintains both rule by one (the President), rule by the few (the Congress) and rule by the many (the general elections) as factors of government.

However, by the modern definition, America is both a Republic and a Democracy; the Head of State is elected; and the government derives its power from the people. By this definition, Greece is also both a republic and a democracy.

dead people and illegal immigrants don't count

Votes from blacks and latinos don't count.

Yes, we can defend it. O'Keefe exposed all types of rigging and voter fraud with proof from insiders themselves. WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT HILLARY IS THE BENEFICIARY OF VOTER FRAUD, they said they were doing it themselves.

Realistically, Trump probably won the legitimate popular vote by at least 3-4 million votes.

no it isn't retard. the US has literally never been a democracy. in the beginning it was a confederacy, now it's a republic. learn history you dumbass.

Over the course of history, we have had two definitions of democracy, which has led to confusion in distinguishing between the two with one capitalized as “Democracy” and the other as lower-case “democracy”.

Small “d” democracy is an umbrella term to describe a variety forms of democratic governments that we have today or had in the past. (An analogy: Dog is an umbrella term to describe a variety of dog breeds that there are in the world.) Small “d” democracy is defined as a government where all the people of a state are involved in making decisions about its affairs either directly or indirectly. There are two main forms or sub-categories of democracy.

Big “D” Democracy is known today as a pure democracy, or a direct democracy. This is a variant or sub-category of the umbrella term (small “d”) democracy. Pure democracy is defined as a form of democratic government where the people decide policy either by voting or forming a consensus on. In a pure democracy, the people are directly involved in governmental affairs. Ancient Athens had this form of democracy, which is also known as Athenian democracy. For the most part, this form of government is very rare today, however, it does exist in the form of ballot initiatives like referendums on the state level in the United States, or certain Swiss districts. NOTE: The United States is NOT considered a pure democracy even though some of the states have ballot initiatives.

The other sub-category or variant of (small “d”) democracy is a representative democracy, or an indirect democracy. Representative democracy is defined as a form of democratic government where the people elect officials, or representatives, to create and implement policy on behalf of the people. In a representative democracy, the people are indirectly involved in government. NOTE: All Western-style democracies are examples of a representative democracy.

>I just took PoliSci 101 last term and I know better
Fuck off cunt, you sound stupid.

Expanding even further on representative democracy, there are two forms: a constitutional monarchy (e.g. United Kingdom) and a constitutional republic (e.g. United States). Constitutional monarchies are also known as limited monarchies and they are essentially the metamorphosis from an absolute monarchy (i.e. rule of royalty) to a representative democracy through a constitution (i.e. rule of law). Constitutional monarchy is defined as a form of monarchical government where the monarch’s powers are limited by law or by a formal constitution, which allows the government to have a representative democracy. Constitutional republic is defined as a form of representative democratic government where the government’s powers are limited by law or a formal constitution, and does not have a monarch as a head of state.

Regarding the Founding Fathers: yes, they frequently did voice their disdain of (big “D”) Democracy as well as praised the idea of our country as a Republic. The Founders simply did not trust the people to directly create policy out of the fear of a majority rule, or mob rule. However, their fear was/is justified because a majority rule does have the potential to infringe on a minority group’s rights.

This.

>people who occupy 5% of the landmass of a country should rule over the other 95% just because they have 51% of the population

cityfags should get nuked

The problem is that language evolves over time and alternate words can have the same definition as another word in the past. To clarify, the terms representative democracy and pure democracy were not used during the time of the Founding Fathers. Their definition of (big “D”) Democracy is the same definition of a pure democracy and their definition of a Republic is the same definition of a representative democracy. The reason why terms are different today is to provide clarification as well as to simplify the issue of democracy having two definitions. Be careful when reading terms in the past. The terms are NOT important; what DEFINES them are. Definitions usually transcend time while words change. Words either lose all meaning and/or adopt a new meaning. If you trace the definitions from then to now, you will be able to connect the dots to the modern word.

Now some may say, “Wait a minute, a Republic is a rule of law, not a rule of people!” You are correct, at least in the classical sense. In modern times, rule of law is an extra component through a constitution, which is defined as a set of fundamental principles according to which a state is governed. At the time, a republic was at default defined to be a “rule of law.”

I cannot defend millions of illegals and dead people voting for Hillary.

why is Massachusetts always on this list, our state doesn't have that big a population

PRO TIP : ILLEGAL ALIENS = VOTER FRAUD

Today, the simplest definition of a republic is a government where offices of the state, such as the Head of State, is elected or appointed rather than inherited (i.e. a monarch). Basically, any government that does not have a monarch as a Head of State is a republic, which means a (small “r”) republican government can be either democratic or authoritarian. As defined, we know that the presence of a constitution acts as a safeguard to protect the rights of all citizens in a democratic society, which helps to prevent a republic from becoming a dictatorship. There are over a 140 countries today that refer to themselves officially as a republic, but not all of them are truly free and provide a democratic process. Cuba is officially known as the Republic of Cuba, and yet Cuba has a single-party rule. Therefore, a republic does NOT automatically guarantee a nation as being a “rule of law.”

So, next time you hear someone say, “American democracy” or “democracy in action”, they are perhaps referring to a representative democracy for the former and the umbrella term (small “d”) democracy for the latter. There is nothing wrong with that and just as appropriate as is referring to our country as a constitutional republic, which is simply more specific than the other terms. The United States of America IS a democracy, a representative democracy, and a constitutional republic. It is NOT a pure democracy (for the most part; see above). This is a great phrase to sum EVERYTHING up:

“All constitutional republics are democracies, but not all democracies are constitutional republics.” (An analogy: All Siberian Huskies are dogs, but not all dogs are Siberian Huskies.)

3 million illegals voted.That means Trump won by 1 million.