Ask a Marxist anything

Ask a Marxist anything;

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Do you actually believe your own bullshit?

Didn't Marx murder a bunch of people for power?
I'm a socialist but I don't at all agree with murdering everyone... or a master race agenda.

Why don't you kill yourself?

kill yourself?

tää

Will you be purged with your own class warfare or expect to be in the political class?

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Better a loafer,
Than a traitor,
Better a hooligan,
Than a dictator,
Better a punk,
Than an activist,
Better dead,
Than a communist.

What's your "fair share" of what other people have earned?

How can you justify being a Marxist when you would choose to live in South Korea over North Korea, west Germany over east Germany and the USA over the ussr?

Why can't you understand that wealth is created, not distributed?

Why don't you have a job?

Why can't you start a business and share the means of production with your employees?

Have you ever considered that you're only a Marxist because A) you received nothing but leftwing indoctrination throughout your youth, and B) you're a loser who doesn't feel capable of competing against stronger men in a free market so you need the government to take away other people's money?

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Why do you comrades hate the Right to Keep and Bear Arms when Marx lived it?

Yes.

Socialism is about the non-hierarchical worker control over the means of production, where managers are democratically elected. You're suggesting that hierarchy is necessary.

You're assuming Libertarian Socialism involves an increase in the size and role of the State, when in fact Marxism is the dissolution of the State in favour of the democratic worker control over the means of production.

I can give you three (admittedly small) examples of this working:
1. Revolutionary Catalonia in Spain in the 1930's

2. There's at least one communally-owned pizza shop in Portland that I'm aware of

3. Edinburgh has communally-owned student housing.

The Left isn't a hivemind. Not all of us are against gun ownership, especially the Libertarian sects of the Left.

Why no just kill yourself. Not joking, the only good communist is a dead communist.

Brilliant argument, lad.

Because he didn't have to deal with ar15 with heatseaking bullets and 50 round clips.

>tfw just triggered myself

Because they know their ideology is a false front to consolidate power in a central government and armed citizens are a threat to that effort.Not only as a threat of violence toward the government, but as a method for preventing dependence on the government. When you can use your rifle to put food on your table for yourself instead of having the government provide you with it. You are not dependent on them and therefore not under their control.

It was a different time.
People had been living a long time under a strict feudal system, and where it was "democrasy" it was corrupt and owned by special intrest. Blood revolution seemed like the only feasible solution.

Have you read this book?

Again, this implies that Socialists WANT a centralised government.
We want a Stateless society as we see the State as an evil that must be overcome, and the Bourgeoisie are sustaining the State.

The problem historically is that the toppling of the Bourgeoisie led to a power gap which tyrants took advantage of. We must overcome this and get past this stage to finally achieve the Marxist society.

how would you describe marxism to someone who never heard of it in 1 sentence?

Stop being so edgy you faggot stop this retarded bullshit you potatonigger

will you please kill yourself so the world can be a better place?

How would you get the common citizen to not think Marxism is a steaming pile of shit

why do you love torture, rape, gulags and shit?

Why?
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Why are so many Irish people left leaning?

And Scottish people too, for that matter.

The workers democratic control over the means of production (e.g. factories, restaurants, what have you)

By explaining it to them. Simple.

Raise you're hand if you're so fucking dead tired of hearing this lazy shit.

IN MY PERFECT WORLD THIS SYSTEM FINALLY WORKS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE STAR TREK NOW. FUCK THE REAL WORLD, OUR COMMUNE WOULD NEVER BE CORRUPT.

Morons, sage and hide.

How do you live without a central nervous system?

>By explaining it to them. Simple.

And if they disagree?

Your opinion on the refugee crisis ?

Are you ready for your free helicopter ride?

Hey Marxist lad. How do you solve the nigger problem?

Time for Black Facts

Crime rate by race & income docile - Washington Post
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School Test Scores by Socio-economic Status in the same District
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Table 43 of the FBI - Crime Rate by Race
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Welfare rates by Race
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Chicago Crime Rate by Race:
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NYPD Crime Rate by Race:
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- USA:
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- Canada:
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- Brazil:
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Percent of Black Serial Killers in USA showing their population size
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>And if they disagree
Kill them or send them to a work camp

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Fair enough. They're free to disagree.
>inb4 "Then your system will fail!"
We disagree with Capitalism. That doesn't mean it's going to collapse anytime soon.

Not an argument.

Help some of them, send the terrorist ones home.

By stopping the gravy train of free shit

And I really don't want you to ignore the nigger problem.

The crime pattern always goes like this:
Black -> Inbetween -> White -> Asian

So how can you have a peaceful society when everyone's fucking mixed like Brazil? You've seen Brazil, right?


Despite being 30% of the population size, 99% of blood is given by white donors.
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Ireland:
>Africans are 1.4% of the population
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>Africans were 6% of persons committed to prison & places of detention 2001-2006.
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The United Kingdom:
>More black people jailed in England and Wales proportionally than in US. New study finds seven times more black people per population are in prison – in the US number is just four times as many
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>Twelve per cent of London’s men are black. But 54 per cent of the street crimes committed by men in London, along with 46 per cent of the knife crimes and more than half of the gun crimes, are thought by the Metropolitan Police to have been committed by black men.
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Canada:
>Blacks make up nearly one in 10 of the 15,000 inmates in Canada’s federal prisons, where they have a second-class status, according to a report from Howard Sapers, ombudsman for federal inmates.
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>Blacks are just 2% of the general Canadian population

How many dicks have you had in your ass?

>Didn't Marx murder a bunch of people for power?

you do know Marx was the faggot that invented this shit, he never did anything but write. In fact he had some horrible disease where it would cause him great pain to even walk let alone murder people

It wasn't Socialism because the workers weren't controlling production and private property still existed.

>Sage goes in all fields.

I know. I understand it's a problem. I'm not some permanently offended SJW.

Once the gravy train of free shit stops, the fact that they cannot compete in a white society will only further be highlighted. Deportation, eugenics, or genocide are the only real answers. We don't have the heart for genocide these days, but deportation would fit. Eugenics would be awesome as well.

Second question:
How many marxists do you know, are they supremely anti-racist? Are they 100% aware that identity politics is a circular discussion that will never, ever end?

But when socialism works, you dont hear about it, like in skandinavia.

list of things that are considert sosialism:
healthcare
military
non private education
goverment funded infrastructure

>falling for the capitalist meme

>Why can't you understand that wealth is created, not distributed?


>wealth is created

good meme, and how is it created? could it be by using natural resources? were those natural resources somehow divinely divided between all people equally at the start of the civilization? No, no they weren't. Instead what happened is that those who had the ability, the swords, the men, the guns, just took whatever they wanted and never gave a shit about people from whom they were taking it.

All private property was born in theft at some point or another. All private property was born and sustained through violence.

why are you retarded?

It probably will become apparent. In that case, they will fail to compete.

You assume that in a Marxist economy failure would be impossible or that competition wouldn't occur. This is simply untrue. Failure in schools would still be the same, and so would failure in the workplace.

Further, as I've shown in my three (admittedly small) examples, Socialism has been shown to work in small pockets of areas, such as Revolutionary Catalonia or the communally-owned student housing in Edinburgh.

>Wealth is based on real, physical resources

It's 2016

how was it created? how did it start? surely by magic

Why are YOU retarded?

Why haven't you hung yourself yet?

What does the "Dictatorship of the proletariat" mean ?
How do you figure the supply and demand for goods without prices ?

These days it is magic, yes.

did it start these days? was it created these days? fix your reading comprehension

All of those things are more expensive and of less quality, simply because they are controlled by the government, which has no incentive to be efficient, because people are forced to pay taxes, which provide the government with money irregardless of the quality of it's work.

'Dictatorship' in Marx's time meant something different to what it's commonly associated with now. During his time, 'dictatorship' simply mean control. So it literally means 'workers' control'.

Workers still produce items. These items are then given by need and/or want through competition. This is what the phrase "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" means.

You do understand that it needs a homogeneous community for it to survive, correct?

The community must be fairly small / compact. And that the system will utterly fail in a country as diverse as the USA.

Why are you on this board if you are under 18?

>one communally owned pizza shop
Hahaha this has to be bait

It probably would. But I live in Europe, and European nations are much smaller and more homogenous by comparison.

What do you think of this graph?

It's an example, at least.

why do you find it necessary to label yourself and stick to the principles of said label?

It's based in facts and science that I can't deny.

You're right.

What now?

Can workers controlling production remain workers? Don't they become the owners?

>mfw Communism is recursive degeneracy

boolean establish_communism(boolean state_is_communist){

if (!state_is_communist){
return false;
}
else if (communism_possible){
return false;
}
else{
return true;
}
}

int main(){

boolean communism_achieved = false;

if(!establish_communism(state_is_communist)){
// some day comrades we will have true communism!
}

}

Never said it was or wasn't, it's just a passing comment.
Relax, Ivan. Don't get genocidal now.

no, what socialism does is giving everybody the same opputunity, so people with talent can get recognision. Under a capitalist regime you need daddys money to get anywhere.

What is your profession? (What do you do for a living?)
How much do you make in a year?

Yes, they can. It just means that the workers elect a manager, and then keep all of the fruits of their labour, instead of handing a share of that up to the business owner and then getting a fraction of it back.

That's exploitation.

How's the 1800's

Do you think that a socialist/Marxist economy would provide a higher standard of living, on average, than a free market to a particular country?

I'm currently working as a Healthcare Assistant for €30'000/yr. I eventually plan to go into Nursing and then hopefully Medicine.

what's wrong with the manager we currently have?

That is likely, because economic inequality would be reduced and private property would be abolished. This means that homelessness would likely take a large hit.

> Implying that a kid born in the slums gets the same opportunity as a daddy's boy from the Inner circle of the ruling 'elite'.

Wew lad, when's the last time you opened your eyes?

>Libertarian Socialism

Do you think automation and intelligent machines will make Marxism more feasible or less?

He's appointed by the owner, which is a top-down system that the workers have no say in.

Managers should be democratically elected, as it means more accountability and less room to fuck up.

Libertarian meaning freedom.

Socialism meaning the democratic control over the means of production by the workers.

What are you not getting? You do realise Libertarianism is a Left-wing term originally, right?

Why haven't you killed yourself yet? It'll be for the good of humanity, and isn't that the ultimate goal of Marxism?

What makes you think powerful people will ever see a point in giving free money to useless shitters like yourself?

If you're going to be so ignorant of economics, don't even bother.

Have you even read Capital?

>or a master race agenda

but you do follow a master race agenda albeit a JEWISH one.

Why do Irish people speak English

*Of Marxist economics

What do you do when you destroy the proletariat but realize they employed you? 20 minutes into communist revolution
>tfwthnf

so why did it never work?

Because we were dominated by the British for centuries and they wrecked our boipuccies.

Why do you think that higher income inequality means a lower average standard on living? In both India and China, when the government relinquished control on their respective economies, the income inequality went up while the average standard of living went up as well. That is because while capitalism is the most efficient economic system, it rewards its participants unequally. If you make a lot of money in a capitalist country, that is because you satisfied the needs of that country to a significant extent, and thus you become rich. The idea that fixing income inequality will lead to less poverty is just a silly and hugely flawed idea. Income inequality REDUCES poverty

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What's your diagnosis?

How would you explain the failures of Communist states and those that took partial Free market initiatives to remain competitive?

Because the dissolution of the State stage never occurred. Instead, the workers took over and then tyrants took over and instead increased the size of the State.

Please tell us more about your failures, and how they caused your Marxist beliefs. Furthermore, why should anyone take seriously the viewpoints of an unsuccessful male nurse?

Thoughts on National-Socialism?

I haven't been unsuccessful. I just don't want to go to college yet. I want to work for a few years first.

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