Why cant they try to do something new with symbiotes, instead of making them...

Justin Hughes
Justin Hughes

Why cant they try to do something new with symbiotes, instead of making them all look like grape and lemon flavors of venom?

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Dominic Gomez
Dominic Gomez

The one in Space knight venom looked different

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Luke Edwards
Luke Edwards

I wish she kept the symbiote on full-time.

Jaxson Davis
Jaxson Davis

Why does bendis still get work when he ruined venoms iconic design like that?

Leo Fisher
Leo Fisher

They aren't even trying for different colored Venoms anymore

Now everyone just gets the black suit

Daniel Wright
Daniel Wright

Because every attempt to branch outside of Venom and Carnage ended in failure. Even then, Venom has spent almost his whole career being reinvented and given new hosts and changing alignments. They've done everything possible to keep him relevant. Even making him tacticool and sending him to space as an Avenger.

Carnage got an initial push that very quickly fizzled out (after his debut, he got Maximum Carnage and virtually nothing else aside from the Spider-Carnage arc and one or two others.) Carnage was even killed off for 6 years until one he was allowed to come back and occupy his own segregated corner of the MCU that's very rarely allowed to interact with main series canon.

All the other symbiotes fared even worse than Carnage. Better to focus on the two that do work.

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Jackson Barnes
Jackson Barnes

until one he was allowed to come back and occupy his own segregated corner of the MCU that's very rarely allowed to interact with main series canon.
Why are they so afraid of making the main MCU graphic anymore? And also fuck tacticool venom, i dont know why anyone thought that would work.

Lincoln Green
Lincoln Green

wasnt carnage red by mixing with cassady's blood?
all symbiotes were supposed to be black

Caleb Myers
Caleb Myers

im sorry but WHAT THE FUCK!

Jaxson Bell
Jaxson Bell

symbiote or hentai tentacle monster you make the call

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Dominic Parker
Dominic Parker

What would you guys' symbiote-host dream team be? Mine would be Moon Knight and the Hybrid Symbiote(s).

Landon Lee
Landon Lee

That's how it was originally, but they apparently forgot about that. But that is the reason why Carnage is not just red, but specifically red and black swirls.

Dylan Campbell
Dylan Campbell

I dunno, these days they've been doing symbiote designs a bit different....see some of the looks from Venomverse and the recent X-Men crossover. I mean at least way different when you look at the earliest "other characters get a symbiote" thing, such as the Punisher "what if" which is literally the same design as Venom only with a slightly altered insignia

I read that Carnage was originally going to be like rainbow colored, and his design looked like Scream, I can never seem to find a source for that but I remember even seeing a concept drawing I think

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Zachary Nelson
Zachary Nelson

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Nathan Fisher
Nathan Fisher

I hate all those designs

Alexander Perry
Alexander Perry

I didn't say they were necessarily good, just different. I actually kind of like the old school symbiote way of doing things, where you would automatically know it was a symbiote but having some unique trait or another that sets it apart from the others, they simply never topped Venom ("real" looking teeth, drooling tongue) or Carnage (always with tendrils squirming, preference for shapeshifting into bladed weapons) and it would be kind of hard to be...I mean once you've had success with two variations of basically the same design you'd be lucky to strike gold another time. I do think it's interesting though how artists these days have tried to put their own spin on it, usually keeping more in theme with the character the symbiote is bonded to rather than the symbiote itself, not always pretty but at least it's creative. I thought Cyclops with the symbiote looked downright hilarious, but it was uniquely "Cyclops"

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Noah Adams
Noah Adams

Why does bendis still get work
Ask DC ;^)

Aiden Kelly
Aiden Kelly

Filthy casual here. So can you mass-produce / breed symbiotes?

Comes into some weird transhuman territory, as in, there seems to be no reason that isn't an asspull that Earth isn't ruled by Mutants/Inhumans/SuperSoldiers in Symbiote/IronMan hybrid armor. Who also learn magic.

Jack White
Jack White

WUT?

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Gavin Murphy
Gavin Murphy

which venom host is this

Jace Watson
Jace Watson

Symbiotes are living creatures, only in the Ultimate universe was it an invention gone wrong. You can breed them, which is how we ended up with the OP pic symbiotes if my memory serves me right, they reproduce asexually, which is how Carnage was born in the first place.

As far as why doesn't everyone just have one, well, I'm sure lots of people would come from the Parker school of thought that they don't want an alien living inside their body, and they also have weaknesses to fire and sound so it's not like they're always an automatic upgrade in all cases.

That's Flash Thompson as Venom and Eddie Brock as Toxin.

Connor Carter
Connor Carter

Err, that's not Flash it's Crime Master or whoever the fuck, thought it was Agent Venom from the thumbnail

Caleb Gonzalez
Caleb Gonzalez

I never understood how people find Skrulls to be hot with that chin thing going on?

Liam Gray
Liam Gray

who is on the top of the car? ant-man?

Blake Flores
Blake Flores

Yeah

Dominic King
Dominic King

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Leo Cooper
Leo Cooper

Well if they ever have carnage spawn again this is a decent enough design

Isaac Long
Isaac Long

arent they doing a carnage spawn story now?

Caleb Green
Caleb Green

No, new Venom one.

Carnage had a new kid ("Raze") in his ongoing, but she was killed off at the end of it.

Blake Fisher
Blake Fisher

They did, and now they're forever ruined thanks to Bendis's backstory on the "Klyntar"

Landon Garcia
Landon Garcia

Thats already been changed the entire symbiote planet is dead and the poison things have almost wiped put all of the symbiotes in 616

Adrian Wood
Adrian Wood

they already retconned klyntar?
damn, how long have I been not reading marvel?

Jaxson Anderson
Jaxson Anderson

In the very recent xmen crossover they go to the planet, and its a desert, all the symbiotes are gone. Only rhing that remained from space k ight really is eddie used the space knight look while in open space, and that symbiotes are treated much less as a parasite, but are inherently corruptible

Nicholas Allen
Nicholas Allen

Cant wait till marvel shits out everything bendis wrote and retconned it all out of existence. And yes, that includes jessica jones.

Christopher Price
Christopher Price

They still call it a "klyntar" unfortunately, so you can't really consider it retconned, but in general modern Marvel continuity if all out of fucking wack anyway, and it seems like every other writer changes their mind on the details of symbiotes so fuck it all

Jaxon Howard
Jaxon Howard

so did they start off as evil? or as beings that want to fuse into space justice heroes?

Wyatt Cook
Wyatt Cook

For you...it's the Red Goblin?

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Jaxson Price
Jaxson Price

create agent anti venom, already a shit name and lazy design
in his frirst story hes decent but written by an edgy moron
his second story hes already a jobber
Why do i even bother, is the white suit the most cursed one
I give him another year before he doesnt even have the suit

Nicholas Perez
Nicholas Perez

If they had to have a default alignment itd be neutral good, cause they are basically children
I wouldnt take this series too seriously as it's main point is that some guy is a symbiote hunter, and he hunts and captures symbiotes and gives them to people with powers, lets the symbiotes copy the powers, then hunts down and kills the hosts and sells the powered up symbiotes

Andrew Morgan
Andrew Morgan

I wouldnt take this series too seriously as it's main point is that some guy is a symbiote hunter, and he hunts and captures symbiotes and gives them to people with powers, lets the symbiotes copy the powers, then hunts down and kills the hosts and sells the powered up symbiotes

Yeah....this is exactly what I mean, symbiotes never worked that way before that I can remember. Any spider powers Venom has, it was to be assumed that the symbiote just mimicked them, I remember it being explicitly stated that his "webbing" was just a pseudo webbing actually made up of it's own bits, hence why it gets weaker the farther Venom gets from it, right? Sticking to walls on the other hand just seems fucking obvious for a creature made out of amorphous sludge.

Chase Thompson
Chase Thompson

I dont think any symbiote besides venom should have webbing, if anything it should just be bio sludge like you said.

Jaxon Wilson
Jaxon Wilson

I agree, and for the most part that's how it usually is, these days it's such a mess to figure out what's canon still or not or how anything works but I guess that could probably be said about Marvel as a whole.

Elijah Jackson
Elijah Jackson

Spidey defeats venom one time by just making him use way too much webbing and makes him burn through most of his symbiote

Joseph Reed
Joseph Reed

I agree, and for the most part that's how it usually is, these days it's such a mess to figure out what's canon still or not or how anything works but I guess that could probably be said about Marvel as a whole.
I wish marvel would do a crisis on infinite earth and just wipe the slate clean, and bury characters like riri and miles through that event.

Blake Walker
Blake Walker

they did do that, it was called Secret Wars (the second one) its why ultimate characters are in the main universe like miles

Sebastian Ward
Sebastian Ward

It didnt erase the whole history and start from the beginning like crisis did

Wyatt Ward
Wyatt Ward

but crisis didn't restart from the beginning, it condensed the multiverse into one world
just like secret wars

Wyatt King
Wyatt King

It rebooted everything though, and what im talking about is an event that would get rid of dead weight characters like miles.

Lucas Robinson
Lucas Robinson

symbiotes can absorb powers?
i thought venom only had spider powers because the symbiote could replicate them naturally

Sebastian Rivera
Sebastian Rivera

literally depends on the writer, both have been true in enough stories now its basically a coinflip of whats canon this week

Landon Richardson
Landon Richardson

Not usually, as discussed ITT the way you thought it pretty much how it always was, but writers these days don't do their homework and just make up their own shit.

Thomas Peterson
Thomas Peterson

this writer should know though cause its the guy that wrote 42 fucking issues of agent venom. and i dont think he ever brought that up

Christian Mitchell
Christian Mitchell

Marvels gonna Marv

Ian Ramirez
Ian Ramirez

Marvel chose Lee Price over this

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Lucas Cooper
Lucas Cooper

why is marvel so blind to the clear market for female symbiotes
also mania to me was like the only legacy that worked

Austin White
Austin White

Bunn had several ideas for her but Marvel rejected them all
they immediately approved of Costa and Slott's idea to take the symbiote from her and give it to Lee so that he could stay relevant
Bunn remains a professional about it but is all too aware of how Andi got screwed over

Venom Inc. was bad in general, but the final issue was downright insulting. At least ASM and Venom will soon be free from Slott and Costa.

Lincoln Nguyen
Lincoln Nguyen

She-Venom only had a single issue
Scream and Donna are dead
Agony is now part of Hybrid that was last seen attacked to a dog and Leslie is dead
Scorn is still around, but hasn't been seen in 7 years, and was only around for a few issues in total.
Raze is dead and so is Claire. Jubilee is still alive, but never wants to touch another symbiote ever again.
Mania was separated from Andi and is now being used to keep LEE FUCKING PRICE relevant.
Ultimate Gwen was cured of Carnage despite it being written into her DNA

It's hard being a female host to a symbiote. Marvel just refuse to keep them around.

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Kevin Peterson
Kevin Peterson

ywn have your own symbiote friend

it hurts

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Parker Perry
Parker Perry

hey lets team up to stop this freak and get my symbiote back
literally doesnt care its left with lee
i hate it so much

Josiah Nguyen
Josiah Nguyen

TFW i used to carry around my venom figure and pretend it was my own symbiote
TFW i was 12
I still have him too

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Samuel Thomas
Samuel Thomas

Fuck, wrong image

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Mason Jones
Mason Jones

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Bentley King
Bentley King

Well was the Mania symbiote even a symbiote? I thought it was similar to Anti-Venom where it was like...kind of a symbiote, but not really alive, or something, just a power set with no mind

Jace Carter
Jace Carter

We both know that's never going to happen

Jason Mitchell
Jason Mitchell

Have you ever considered that no one outside Sup Forums cares about you're waifu

Jose Gutierrez
Jose Gutierrez

The Mania symbiote was originally a Venom clone that it absorbed

And then Flash got the Hellmark and the symbiote did not like that demonic influence so it stuck the Hellmark onto the clone and ejected it onto Andi the first chance it got.

So whether it's a real symbiote depends on if you consider clones real and distinct beings

Dominic Nguyen
Dominic Nguyen

Why not? Nobody actually likes bendis, his writing is horrible and so are his contributions to the canon. Why keep it?

Anthony Rodriguez
Anthony Rodriguez

If nobody likes Bendis then why do so many of his books sell as well as they do?

Why is DC giving him Superman and doing this creepy ad campaign letting readers know "Bendis is coming"

Ethan Martin
Ethan Martin

I don't keep up with Ghost Rider stuff so I have no idea where this guy is anymore, but I would love to see a reunion between these two, as well as maybe Morbius or some of the other characters Venom teamed up with back in the day....I'm kinda getting sick of all these big events.

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Jose Gray
Jose Gray

cos I don't think many of Marvel's staff care for Venom

Daniel Hall
Daniel Hall

If nobody likes Bendis then why do so many of his books sell as well as they do?
But they dont sell well. The whole ad campaign reeks of nepotism.

Gavin Clark
Gavin Clark

Oh man this is just the right brand of gleeful dumb edge I want to see. Wonder if we could get a we am vengeance moment again

Thomas Jones
Thomas Jones

How the hell has he got like 4 back to back events then

James Wood
James Wood

It's a clone of venom that's mentally damaged so it's much more dormant than actual venom

Tyler Jackson
Tyler Jackson

they might have changed their opinions, their staff, or they're getting a bit desperate for some successes, so they decided to pimp him out a bit because they know he has fans

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