Dark Magic Thread

I've been thoroughly redpilled and I don't know what to beleive about anything anymore. If you asked me a month ago whether magic is real, as a man with a science degree I would have laughed in your face. Now I don't know anymore. I don't know who or what to trust.

So please tell me, is magic real? Can one influence reality through the occu? Has anyone here actually utilized the occult?

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You support Donald Drumpf, your opinion is worthless.

That is not what magic is, you are thinking of magick.

can you redpill me on magick?

I can. Just give me some time to think.

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Anxiety Reducing at best, OCD at worst.

Fucking garbage that rewards you short-term and enslaves you long term.

Learn to astral project. White magic isn't about making shit bend to your will, but doing the will of omnipotent beings of love. Enslaved in the short term, freed completely long term.

Im all about that short term shit, how do I access it?

It's real, but experimentally indistinguishable from schizophrenia.

It's based on visualization and repeating numerals.

Hope that helps.

It's a good thing you're a man with a science degree. Physics? I hope. Just like we have a biological body we also have a spiritual body. Our spiritual body sends us energy through the Silver Cord which is what allows us to control these bodies. It also has systems in place that allow us to cast spells. Most magical systems are stupid because they add elaborate rituals without actually looking at the reasons why those rituals work.

>indistinguishable from schizophrenia
What do you mean by this? and what exactly can you do with magick?

You are weak, kill yourself

m.youtube.com/watch?v=tXOJHZhoO68
This guy has some cool stuff about it.

>doing the will of omnipotent beings of love.
Funny.

You'll be free once you accept Moloch. True power is competition driven simultaneously for the sake of your own goals and for the sake of itself. Do this and sacrifice your stake in humanity, and you will be free.

Learn Astral Projection like the other dude said. Keep away from spirits though, they won't teach you everything they know and you'll be their bitch.

you can talk to interdimensional beings and they can do things for you

A lot of people are starting to believe that the universe is a simulation. A lot of respectable people.

I don't think it's that magic is real, it's that nothing is real.
It's entirely possible that we live in a simulation.
It explains meme magic, it explains the occult, it explains shit like the Mandela effect.

Scott Adams believes that the past is just a randomly generated backstory. When you remember something from your past it's just the program making shit up, and the past might have not even existed.
The idea is that when you look at certain periods in history the simulation just fills the gap with random bullshit, which is how Kek was born. The entire mythology was made solely because we looked into it.

Undeniably life as we know it is a simulation. Ran on biological machines, and fed to us via "five senses"

I'm pretty sure that I have fucked with so many different forms of magic and universe switching and time travel and quantum suicide that I have messed something up. Everything seems to ..... be wrong.... its useless to talk about, its bigger than anything I can describe, God exists, everything is fucked, don't think or care about it too much, this is getting absurd.

We're doing something good that I know.

Been an occultist for nigh on a decade now.
It works. It takes discipline, focus, and studying, but it works.

Anything specific you want to know about?

What does magick allow you to do?

Magick, or, more accurately, the energies it manipulates, make up everything you see around you.
Therefore, it theoretically allows you to do everything.

Practically speaking, given only, say, a year of concentrated training on your own, and with average aptitude (everyone can train it, not everyone can do it well instinctively):
Calling up middle-tier demons and angels, most elemental and natural spirits is in there, which gives you a variety of options. Google Goetia SacredTexts for examples for demons. Angels can do roughly the same for you, but do it in a different and more useful way, long-term speaking.
Elementals and nature spirits can help you with things related to that element. (Spiritual flight, finding nearby hidden valuables, that kinda stuff)

Then there's the things you can do yourself: Basic glamours to make yourself appear to others as you wish, getting money, women, etc.

All in a limited form, based upon your talent and training, of course.
For example, I have a somewhat low-tier level of talent in money magick. I can be sure that I'll never be absolutely without money, but I can only get it to about 50-200€ or so. Never trained particularly hard either.
On the other hand, my divinations never fail to come true. Again, I have the most talent in this and a lot of training, second only to working with spirits.

And, lastly and definitely most importantly, you can do magickal initiations that bring you closer to the Divine, for example the Holy Guardian Angel Retreat and the like.

Summon me a cute succubus to suck my dick.

Its called a tulpa, you have to summon it yourself.

Then read you fucking plebian
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A simulation of what exactly?

Nah I'm autistic enough to have tulpas, they're not demons they're definitely mental illness. I know this becase they fade away when I'm on ritalin

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use this responsibly btw
Liber MMM is all most anons on here will ever need, the basic techniques of sigilization are the quickest path to subjectively measurable results

Of the universe.
Probably some faggot's pet experiment.

everything
the singularity has already been reached, and will be reached again, infinitely
we just live in one of these infinite loops
and yet this is just one way to view the expressions of kia/mana/whateverthefuck

Rotten.Com has some good information on the occult

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I thought you said the universe was a simulation?
What is the point of simulating a simulation and is it even a simulation at that point or some arbitrary art project?

Our universe is a simulation, not the actual universe.
There might be a point to it, but most likely it's just people trying to create a perfect simulation.

If it isn't a simulation of the actual universe, what is it simulating?

This thread is ace! What books would people recommend that are relates to harnessing these powers?
I've done a bit of astral travel on acid before, but I've always struggled to get past the vibration stage sober
What ways can I prove tangible effects to myself?

A universe?
What's so confusing here?
We have physics simulations, we have really shitty space simulations, we have AIs that try to simulate human behavior etc.

If our technology keeps developing we are going to try ti simulate universes one day too. It would be amazing.
Imagine an advanced program that is capable of producing art, endless entertainment, give you tools to test anything etc.
People are already obsessed with learning about fictional lore like Lord of the Rings, Star Trek, imagine if they could read about a randomly generated character named Adolf Hitler in this simulated universe.

Basically this

>What's so confusing here?
The claim of a simulation that can simulate the simulation it is actively being simulated in.

>Imagine an advanced program that is capable of producing art, endless entertainment, give you tools to test anything etc.
I would laugh my fucking ass off for days if i made my universe's people to believe that praying to a magic frog and offering digits will make their wishes come true.

That's confusing only if you assume the simulation is perfect.
If we are in a simulation it would make perfect sense that things outside of the observable universe wouldn't exist. It would be very likely that even the stars we see in the sky don't exist, that they're just lights mimicking what a star would look like to save processing power.
We assume atoms exist, but it's entirely possible they only exist when we have to observe them. It's like in video games where high detail objects are replaced by low poly objects when you get further away from them.

If we live in a simulation we have no way of checking how complex it is.
For all I know only things that I interact with are rendered. For all I know the simulation is so basic that it doesn't even bother assigning a name to the person I am talking to on an anonymous mango board. Maybe it's the opposite, maybe it also renders everything for you and makes sure every atom in your body is in the right place. I have no way of knowing.

Magick means impressing your will upon the universe through meditation or other techniques, and no it's not satanic or anything like the christians say, its a natural thing and we're doing it everytime we think, say and do things, I've been practicing magick since last four years and it's most useful for removing obstacles, improving habits and getting help in difficulties, it works within our karma/limit and carries karma just like any other action, a person can do a spell and get money that is withing his karma/limit through logical means and the price for that is the price you pay for EVERYTHING, don't believe in bullshit fear mongering that people say, a neet that gets money from his parents is also paying the price because he's missing out on all the things that social people experience, that's how we pay the price and that's how karma works, so try to manifest what us realistic to you and match your standards.

that's what you think

we're breaking the programming

How has anyone gotten close to simulating subjective experience let alone understanding it?

Be really careful with that. Succubus are real and they will fuck you up mentally for a decade sometimes. Don't do it.

Wrong. The real answer is magicuck. The real power is in watching other men (preferably black) fuck your wife.

Sweden was redpilled all along

it's about influencing fate, at its very core. within the subject of the occult, there is conjuring of spirits, the Flux of "energies" to whatever goal you have in mind, tha power to change outcomes. What interests you most? There's many subjects within occultism, and several hypothosis on how it works.

I made a thread the other day exactly with the same enquirers because until all the Spirit Cooking mess came out, my idea of occult things was exactly as yours. But now I honestly believe all of this is real.

user, you must not take the wrong path. These demons, wandering spirits and others that you might be tempted to summon, will ask for a price, that you'll have to coverr, in exchange for their favors. This price will cause you sorrow to you and to others, in one way or another.
Also why doing this when you can directly talk to God Almighty? Is like trying to buy favors from some shady people outside a business, when you have direct access to the owner. Doesn't makes more sense, right? So please think very well before you put on sale things you can't afford to lose.