>Should it be illegal? No relations with kids should be allowed
Gavin Foster
DELETE THIS! You're going to get me arrested!
Mason Long
Of course not. Individual freedom of expression needs to be protected at all costs.
Brody Mitchell
The sad thing is, this will go completely unchallenged, because if anyone speaks up, they throw themselves right under the bus and gets branded as a pedophile.
It's just so utterly absurd it's scary
John Richardson
>text sexualizing children Jenny was a young girl with nice, long, slender legs.
Arrest me now, OP.
Sebastian Anderson
>I just read your post
S-someone's at the door..
Ryan Watson
Indeed, we have the same in France drawings are considered the same as the real thing. Now that the law is in place there is no questioning it.
Jason Gomez
Did we one-up you with the text?
Ryder Diaz
It perpetuates an environment that's not good for pedos trying to get over their "condition". They shouldn't be looking at anything child porn "related" period. You could say lolicon is harm reduction but you'd have to provide proof that it actually does this and isn't a gateway to looking for the real thing.
But jail? I don't know, then again norway's prison system is about rehab isn't it? I'd do a psych eval and get him some therapy and maybe short term house arrest. Assuming it's all paid for by taxpayers there shouldn't be a problem. Pedos in the west are absolutely fucked. Can never get a job, can't afford therapy to get over degeneracy.
Bentley Gomez
I'm not sure if text count as a representation
Brayden Sullivan
Funny how people's lives are ruined simply by them being branded as pedophiles.
Also, any country that doesn't have their age of consent at 14 is cucked.
Elijah Gomez
>then again norway's prison system is about rehab isn't it? Kind of irrelevant when your life is ruined once you get out, unless you move to another city or something. And all that because you fucking read something
Asher Richardson
In Norway? IDGAF.
Here? It's artwork by default and thus passes the Miller Test by default and is thus 100% legal. All those convicted here took plea deals. No one's been legit found guilty here because prosecutors know they wouldn't win a fair trial so they scare people into taking a plea.
In fact, most people in prison in the US are there not by trial, but by plea deal Prosecutors are experts in scaring clients into admitting guilt.
Brayden Anderson
I think 16 is okay, but eh
Carson Powell
Hey bro read this: "9 year old girls masturbating!" You in jail yet? Am I going to jail for distributing literal (heh) CP?
Zachary Gonzalez
You're still causing people that have a healthy happy relationship with a 15 year old girl to go to jail.
Juan Jackson
I'm probably about to go to jail for hentai CG's, I wouldn't have believed it six months ago but the normie cunts who draft the laws here have used language so deliberately vague that the J-List banner at the top of this page could probably be used as evidence against me.
Lucas Martinez
So if you read stephen kings "It" you go to jail?
Christian Adams
You'll have to take the lolis out of my cold, dead hands.
Nathan Perez
If the new law is as strict as it sounds, you'll get a harsher sententce than me, bro.
30-something year olds having a relationship with 14-16 year olds is not what i'd call healthy, but you do you, guy.
Caleb Jones
Consent also encompasses parental consent. If the parents don't agree with it you usually get in trouble.0
Adam White
They don't care, going after drawings and text has one purpose, artificially increases the number of arrest. Catching real predatorsis really hard, catching a retard reading fan-fiction is easy. When the time comes and management look at the number of arrest it looks they are doing something. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outreau_trial
Noah Clark
kek
Josiah Ramirez
at the end of Stephen king's novel "It" the kids all take turns having sex with the girl of the group, it goes into great detail about how fatty is packing
John Adams
Who fucking knows, this shit is vague.
Merkel will probably make it legal to fuck children m8, just convert to Islam. No worries
Zachary King
Yes, draw all you want. Just don't touch kiddies and get help asap.
Angel Brown
That's fucked.
Connor Brooks
>Be humanity >Be freely and naturally attracted to males and females of all ages for entire existence since the first human walked the earth >Suddenly, within the last 200 years, society decides that because it's not as difficult to survive that isn't allowed anymore.
People would literally have public lynchings of the most torturous nature on anyone that even so slightly was attracted to a girl under 18 if they could. If you go out and rape gradeschoolers it's a different story, but expecting mankind to just suddenly turn off their entire genetic disposition to be attracted to a particular thing is just completely retarded. I'm pretty sure everyone has seen someone that looks older and was attractive, only to find out, "lol she's like 15, dude! ur sick!" people mature differently from person to person. Some females mature faster than others, and so do some males. I wouldn't mind as much if it wasn't such a double-standard either, where female schoolteachers can fuck far underaged little boys and people will honest to god go, "HAHA HA! WISH I WAS THAT KID!! HAHAA WHERE WERE THOSE TEACHERS WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL!!? LOLOLO" And saying things like that is completely publicly acceptable. People find fucking fruit attractive if it has an even slightly hourglass shape, for christ sake. Humans will want to fuck everything. And almost all humans will, most will just not admit to it even to themselves due to the literal threat of everyone wanting to kill you instantly. But humanity is proving itself as animals anyway, and kids are fucking younger and younger as the years go by. Eventually it'll just return to form with everyone fucking everyone, and then it'll be pretty stupid that people's lives were completely ruined over some text about a sexy teen or some shit. But then it won't matter.
Brody Lee
It's a meme crime. Just like racism is a meme, wage gap is a meme, etc.
People will believe and toe bullshit lines if someone in authority says to.
In reality, kids mostly don't give a fuck, and boys generally will take any action as long as- 1. it's not gay or 2. if it's gay no one finds out
I can't speak for grills. But I'd wager they don't care much either providing it's not some gross shit.
Elijah Butler
Out of curiosity, what would you consider a reasonable age of consent?
Jaxson Butler
Will be interesting to see just what this police officer did. This law must be ideal to set someone up. Just mail them some text and boom, guilty of "possession" and off to the klink you go kek
Camden Young
This so much this. We cant be narcissist about it though. We need to reach people and get them to understand what basic fucking rights are and why the fucking government should stay the fuck out of word policing for these whiny crybabies. They have honestly been so cuddled their entire life they have no idea how to react to a difference of opinion.
What he shared we don't know yet, it could be text.
Asher Brooks
>Will be interesting to see just what this police officer did.
>Cops sees lots of real CP in his duties >some of the stuff is actually pretty hot, even if forbidden fruit >says "ah man, screw it, I'll use drawn stuff to keep myself in check and not use actual CP, it's the right thing to do here >gets busted for it I'll bet that's the story.
Brayden Robinson
i came.
Levi Rodriguez
puberty
Kevin Flores
BENIS IN TODDLER VAGINA
go to jail norcucks
Josiah Butler
We had this in sweden aswell. A middle aged man had tons of lolicon and shit on his computer. He was trialled and found not guilty. No victrim, no crime was the reason
Sebastian Brown
That's vague. And some people don't mature until some time after puberty
Jaxon Gutierrez
12
Ryan Green
Also read Freud for school, go to jail.
Lincoln Watson
Was that the translator guy?
Camden Bell
DELET THIS!
Aaron Lopez
Absolutely not.
Luke Sanders
I only mean that you don't get in trouble simply for having sex with a girl that looks mature unless
1. the relationship is abusive 2. the relationship is irresponsible
William Bell
looks mature but is only in her early teens maybe
Jaxson Robinson
>1. the relationship is abusive >2. the relationship is irresponsible But that's the thing, you can't police that. What you consider abusive, irresponsible or mature is entirely subjective. That's why ages of consent is typically a few years after puberty, because by then most will have matured at least a bit
Samuel Peterson
And how was his life afterwards i wonder..
Sebastian Howard
There was a bit more to that case, the guy was a translator for a publisher that imported Manga and the attorney was vindictive for some reason. Once it got to HD and they threw it out and ruled him not guilty because "lol, this is not real you stupid idiots" and thus setting it in stone here in Sweden.
It should be added that Hovrätt and Tingsrätt both decided that he was guilty for pictures where the characters could be interpreted as minors due to their small breast.
Thomas Rodriguez
Wasn't there some law in Australia that would ban all porn with sub b-cup titties because of muh thoughtcrime a year or two ago? What ever happened to that?
Isaac Anderson
I don't think it was a full on law, I think it was just whoever had the power to ban things went a bit crazy. They banned some porn because the actors looked under aged, that meant very petite girls with small breasts. I don't think they've banned any since then but I don't think the bans have been revoked. They should be and it's fucking bullshit, I don't care for any of it but having porn banned because a girl looks young is ridiculous and rather offensive to the actor imo. It's actual body shaming where it matters.
Jeremiah Scott
>Commit crime. >Cover your home outside and inside with 2D loli lewd and text that sexualizes child. >Cops can't even reach your door because they are too busy arresting each other. >yfw
Nathaniel Scott
>the shitty it remake will be illegal in Norway Heh
Bentley Hughes
Also >It perpetuates an environment that's not good for pedos trying to get over their "condition" It also limits what pedo's can relieve the pressure with, maing them a greater threat to kids. I think the vast majority of pedos don't go to a psychologist simply because then they risk getting caught, or shamed by the psych.
Adam Allen
>let's simplify a complicated problem even though we have judges that probably have enough capacity of common sense to punish people with bad intent on other laws that can determine abusive and irresponsible relationships.
Hunter Collins
>judges that probably have enough capacity of common sense You have that much faith in them? I sure as shit don't, they are people too.
Jackson Gomez
nice quads
No I meant that the law accurately defines what is what and that the judges are probably smart enough to interpret it.
Kevin Rivera
the criminalization of drawings is the most idiotic shit i have ever heard, muslim tier retarded desu.
Jordan Rodriguez
I have some hentai stuff you could probably ague is borderline loli, and i don't want my life to get fucked over any harder.
Is it enough to delete pics and then empty the garbage bin, or do i have to pull a Clinton and go to town on my PC with a hammer?
Dominic Davis
you're fine. dban in case you're paranoid.
Robert Nguyen
Yeah i really don't get it.
But this is beyond that shit, they have criminalized text, what the fuck is going on?
Austin Kelly
Are they going to jail anyone with the Dicks out Southpark episode or the Simpson's movie as well?
Isaac Sanders
Reminder that if you've ever seen anyone post cp on this shithole to get themselves banned you're guilty of possession
>According to the attorney general, the investigation into Skupin began when a woman alleged on the local news that she was a victim of a gifting scheme. She said that she invested in Pay It Forward, in which her donations cycled through a chart of investors, until she was paid by new investors’ money. Other alleged victims came forward, claiming they had also paid cash into the program.
>During law enforcement’s investigation into Skupin, they they discovered SIX THUMBNAIL IMAGES of child pornography on his computer, authorities have said.
>“Not only did this man rob people of their hard earned savings with his financial scams but he victimized innocent children every time he looked at a piece of child pornography,” Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette said in a previous statement. “This man seems to have no concept or caring for right and wrong and will be prosecuted under the full extent of the law for these horrific crimes.”
I guess in Norway you're guilty if you've ever seen hentai because basically every anime character in the world is like 15
Caleb Wood
If no actual child is involved it shouldn't fucking matter.
Otherwise its thought police levels of retardation.
Tyler Rogers
If nobody suffers harm or injury, then it should be legal. Govenrments should not legislate against fantasy or imagination full-fucking-stop
Andrew Ward
The trick is to label it as art, et voila, anything goes.
Ryder Wright
Yes, those drawings should be illegal too. It feeds their sick brains, cartoons or not they get off on it and consider it normal and it gets worse. Not only that, but it's still CP. Cartoon or not it's still very much that, fucking sick.
Alexander Torres
>read a story about a little girl having sex Boy I should go have sex with little girls!
>read a story about someone getting killed Boy I should go murder people!
This really is such stupid logic.
Nicholas Perez
Liberalism is entirely propped up on policing the thoughts of others to create a "Better" society.
The right is more interested in policing actions and not thoughts.
Zachary Robinson
Now just wait and see which high flying anti-establishment politician gets smacked with CP laws
Jaxson Hughes
Drawings and text? That's fucking retarded.
I mean, it's literally insane. It makes no sense.
>inb4 1's and 0's.
I mean, seriously though - text? That's literally a thought crime.
Are you sure he didn't get busted for real CP or something and this is just part of what he got busted for?
Parker Cook
we have similar laws here, dont think anyones been jailed for text. there have been a few for drawings though.
Brayden Myers
You got to be kidding me if you think a 15 year old is going to have a 'healthy' relationship with a grown adult male (or woman). Yeah, maybe back in the medieval ages, but even then both the average man and woman (read, peasants) married young, unless you were royalty (interesting that the elites who share royal blood have so much pedophile BS going on too), because peasants died early.
So many pedos and near-pedos in this thread it's unbelievable.
Isaiah Bennett
It just pisses me off how stupid shit like this gets passed as law.
Its like the bloke that discovered the molecular structure of DNA being shunned from the science community for also discovering that black people are less intelligent than white.
Leo Peterson
14
Leo Hall
...
Angel Miller
Underrated
Charles Wright
NSA already has a full disk clone of you PC man. You're fucked royally.
Mason Rogers
>15 > pedophile You're an idiot.
Blake Parker
Watch out guys, some hot cp coming through
>Once upon a time there was an 8 year old girl and she had sex with a 30 year old man, the end.
You are all guilty of pedophilia. I judge ye all to be witches and kiddy fiddlers.
Connor Phillips
Those people are leftists, not liberals. The "we need to police speech and silence bad ideas to protect [oppressed class]" dipshits get mad when you call them liberals, and a lot of them like to circlejerk about how liberals aren't authoritarian enough. It blows my mind how deluded those people are
Carter Stewart
This guy gets it.
Josiah Fisher
>create a "Better" society
That's not what it is at all. It's all about "getting" the bad goys (white males, logic users etc.) by any means available. Observe:
>Sup Forums memes Trump into White House for justice >Idiots posts lewd text and drawings here occasionally >equate registering this with being literally Fritzl under law >??? >Profit
UAB is art it doesn't even have to be labeled as such.
Josiah Moore
Brave new world starts off with talking about 12 year olds fucking and having orgies.
It'll be ironic when someone gets arrested for reading that.
Thomas Cook
>UAB is art. No doubt.
Andrew Thomas
Absolutely a 15 year old girl is going to be happier with an older man (assuming he isn't some trashy motherfucker or a beta cuck), who can provide her with the mature attention she craves like no fucking other. It is completely within their biological functions to desire to find a capable man as soon as they can. Why the fuck would she be "happier" with meeting Jamal and Tyrone and Brad and Chard behind the gym locker room to give them blowjobs and titjobs when literally none of them can give her what she needs except for mere sexual gratification? Are you honestly more supportive of the prospect of 15 year old girls giving sexual favors to her classmates as opposed to having a stable relationship with a man who for the most part has his shit together, though a bit older?
I'm extremely tempted to call you out as a redditor for not knowing this.
Also >15 >pedo
Yeah, reddit.
Oliver Lewis
Yeah but seriously?
Gavin Lee
If it doesn't create genuine problems other than how society views it, then it's normal. Our genetic makeup isn't going to change in a matter of a few hundred years just because of "progress".
Cooper Rivera
Avoid giving the government a reason to dislike you and no one will ever give a shit about the contents of your HD
Henry Ward
Devilish
Dylan Nelson
literally who?
Xavier Torres
are you speaking from experience?
Ayden Perez
The fuck is UAB?
Angel Phillips
Just how human do they have to be before it's illegal?
James White
Yes it should stay legal. In Afghanistan it was forbidden but people did it anyway. Is better for society when pedophiles get off on stories than fucking real 8 year old girls.
sorry for bad english, not german
Jose Mitchell
unteralterbach. google it. download it. thank me later. you're welcome.
Matthew Jenkins
>actually having sex with a 16 year old is legal >reading text that sexualises a 16 year old is illegal