>tfw actually sat down and read 1984
No fucking way, how the fuck did Orwell know all this shit, I'm still in shock we are quite literally 10 years away from this shit and no one seems too bothered.
Sorry but this whole rise of Trump, Brexit and nationalism is a farce and a dirty trick imo, they are all in on it
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How did you get that out of 1984?
Yes, you bongs took 1984 too literal and as an instruction book rather than a warning
Read Brave New World
the worst part is they've got it so the liberals think Trump and the conservatives are the one's trying to put 1984 in place.
Orwell has written about stuff like this. Like how Ghandi was racist as fuck hated Muslims and was killed by a Muslim but the liberals flaunt him around like he was their own.
just a coincidence
It's all just blind propaganda on both sides, it's all a trick 2 sides to the same coin
I plan too, but from what I know the world isn't too bad compared to 1984
Go read it for real... CTR Shill
Its not "blind propaganda" its WAR is PEACE,
and FREEDOM is SLAVERY.
Its controlled to keep the prolls oppressed by fear, Claining being at war with one of the other 2 nations all the time.
Your part of the Thought Police, a corrupt inefficent govermental body which forbids to think for yourself.
You realize you hippocrites of CTR are defending RITUAL CHILD ABUSE?
Clinton had PEDOPHILE OCCULTISTS as campaign manager?
Go educate yourself, if you have the balls to
PODESTA, PIZZA AND PEDOS
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SPIRITCOOKING -PJW
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Sad thing:
Its basicly more likely to happen, people will give themselves in the comfort of the bubble.
While high on SOMA all the time and numbed to real emotions.
I'm not CTR, I'm just chilling with a 6 pack of Stella mate calm down
animal farm is more depressing than 1984
I got hard when Wilson and the bitch whatever her name is went out into the field/gardens.
It's like we're in a mix between 1984 and Brave New World. We're getting an autoritarist government, and no one cares because they are in their safe spaces. They think nothing will evenr happen to them, while the governement is taking their rights form them.
>babby's first dystopian novel
Sup Forums is for adults only, son.
I HATE YOU
(because i love you and you will make me into a thought criminal)
What a sick and twisted dystopia in orwellian newspeak. Sure there tension but somehow incredible emotional, powerful scene
1984 is good but overrated, and pseudo-intellectual teenagers always masturbate over it.
Honestly, I don't see the world moving towards something like that. Not at all.
i got hard when they met after getting themselves destroyed in room 101
I usually read non-fiction crime books
I've always heard about 1984, we read some in school but it was always one of those books I never felt like I actually had to read, like of mice and men or some shit
doubleplus good
>Sorry but this whole rise of Trump, Brexit and nationalism is a farce and a dirty trick imo, they are all in on it
Everything is a lie and you have no power, so you should kill yourself immediately.
I bet even that would be a trick.
the best of both worlds
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Now you understand what is behind ISIS and moderate beheaders
>mfw my government is LITERALLY practicing newspeak by banning certain words from use because they are used to express undesirable things.
Its LITERALLY what Orwell described. Both the act and the reason behind it.
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You have patrician tier observational skills friend
>boxer
>never forget
Are you 15?
Please don't send Sup Forums plebs to /lit/, it's like i'm on /r/books or something in here
this spaghetti nigger knows whats up, really makes you think
>ten years away
Jesus dude, we're already there. Instead of putting cameras in your home they put them on your phone. We spy on ourselves.
I remember watching Children of Men when it came out in 2006 as a naive teenager. I thought "Boy, I'm glad we don't live in that science fiction universe."
That movie took place in 2030. Plenty of time for the zika virus to go airborne, NYC getting nuked, and a 2nd American civil war,
>Slander becomes the tool of the loser
orwell and Huxley kept contact with Crowley. I'm sure they discussed our potential future and where they would like to see things headed.
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>tfw to smart too read orwell
>immigration crisis
>Islamic terrorism (ALLAHU ACKBAR ALLAHU ACKBAR)
>10 years away from 1984
>implying we aren't already in 1984
This a great essay by Orwell, and it's equally as prophetic--maybe even more so. Also, check out Joseph Conrad's "Under Western Eyes" and "We" by Yevgeny Zamyatin. Which is basically the book Orwell ripped off to make 1984. Also, if you need to mellow out "Futurological Congress" by Stanislaw Lem. Equally prophetic, but better writing and much funnier. It's easily my favourite book. Keep reading, there's more to learn.
holy shit you are smart for french
Learn how to write English. Fuck, I'm surprised you can read it.
It's more Brave New World, mate.
This is not a new observation at all. This was on normiebook years ago
Also, only listen to me about book recommendations. No one else knows what they are talking about. I guarantee you'll enjoy yourself.
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lol du Tschoopenhofguschti
Y'all faggots need to read The Machine Stops by Foster, basically predicted how we would become dependent on a machine like entity similar to the internet.
>Brave New World
Orwell opined that Huxley ripped off Zamyatin
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Just stay in school kid
The difference is that back then we had 9/11 on our minds.
Now we literally have ragheads like in minus the celebratory AK-47 fire. They still keep those under the mattress until the time comes.
It's both
We are living in a fucked up mix of both
1984 and BNW are good. Most people don't know about the Russian novel "We" which is also a very good dystopian novel.
why didn't you read it in high school like a regular person.
read gravitys rainbow if you want to know how deep the rabbit hole goes
>Futurological Congress
The new film "based" on Lem might be worth watching, wouldn't call it excellent cinematographically but it captures a lot of the current zeitgeist.
I sort of think of 1984 as the story of the party's rise to ultimate power, and brave new world as what comes after the restructuring.
Both books have crazy parallels to current events
/lit/ has to be liberated from the leftists
>crazy parallels to current events
The real redpill is seeing parallels to past events and finding out that's how civilization always functioned and we don't really know any other way.
I'm surprised the director got away with that desu.
1984 is literally based on Stalinism and the USSR.
> I didn't read 1984, the post
It's a book about a shitty poorfag dystopia where everything is owned by the state (communism), the earth is split into 3 globalist blocks with all the countries erased and the state controlling every aspect of your life (big government). Orwell himself has said his books were inspired by the Soviet regimes and creeping global communism (domino theory). Also, everything is ugly, shitty and falling apart because that's how collectivist economies work.
Time for you to read Brave New World
Then and only then will you see everything
Orwell shows you one half
Huxley shows you the other
1984 was a reality in 1948 already, it was just less obvious back then than it is now since (((they))) tightly controlled the flow of information
The internet redpilled >alot< of people, the price for that is that all these people are tracked + on a (((government kill list)))
The most disturbing part about 1984 is that Big Brother doesnt just want to oppress and exploit you, he wants to force you to love him. That is exactly what the leftist liberals are trying today.
If you can, try to find "Langue du bois" (Wooden Language) which is a scholarly monograph in English by a French intellectual in the 80s that fleshes out with sourced examples how the Soviet Union and its overseas useful idiots really did depend on Orwellian Newspeak. Orwell absolutely perfectly defined the real mechanism of Marxism, which is not violence or anything to do with economics, but playing word games so you never admit you are wrong, not even to yourself. Of course you have already read Orwell's essay Politics And The English Language?
>he wants to force you to love him.
This is a "comrade Stalin" element, that we didn't have in ex-Yugoslavia, as long as you didn't meddle in the affairs of the party, you were fine. But in today's "liberalism" you literally have to show enthusiastic love for comrade Stalin, and even then if it's not genuine and enthusiastic enough, you're still fucked.
Honestly I don't think it was ever like that, to that extent, even in the actual Soviet bloc. I've only seen that level of insanity shown in movies about Asian communism such as this:
It's a shitty book, honestly. The noble savage shit near the end ruins it. Did Zamyatin's have that crap?
it could possible that hitler is coming back (antichrist)
Zamyatin's is very different but is much closer to the Russian situation. The tone and plot is similar to 1984 but Zamyatin lacks Orwell's critique of language. Huxley got BNW from a Polish writer and artist named Witkacy.
I love me some Russian literature. Thanks burgerbro, I'll check it out.
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>Zamyatin
all books but that are shitty crap
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>muh Brave New World
>Muh 1984
It's Farenheit 451 we're on the road to, guys
It's pretty much 10 for 10 with how our society is going
Reading is mandatory in our society.
I've always believed this as well. Add in a bit of Harrison Bergeron to simulate how liberals would intend to checkmate other peoples' privilege.
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reading wasn't outlawed in F451, it just outlawed complex media
F451 society was drowned in a flood of content without context, quantity without quality.
All the news was essentially clickbait, and all shows were the exact same with the characters swapped out.
Human interaction was for the most part done talking to strangers over skype about nothing in particular
Can you give me the full title and author I might read it.
I'm CTR because I asked what the connection between Trump and 1984 is? Kill yourself.
We by Yevgeny Zamyatin
it was outlawed the kids couldn't even read in school.
Thanks, bro.
>But in today's "liberalism" you literally have to show enthusiastic love for comrade Stalin
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OP really want to claw your eyes out?
Read the Bible.
underrated
>10 years away
as far as I'm concerned that is the UK now. Just a new age prison colony.
Brave New World is the prescient one. 1984 is babby shit
Oh, we had those too, but it didn't quite work as much on a personal level, more on just the ceremonial level.
hey hey the holy fucking Bible, son.
To be fair the society he envisioned was completely plausible and communism was basically 1984 in East Germany.
He fought in the Spanish Civil War and watched the socialist society he fought for tear itself apart.
Little did we know that East Germany will end up controlling entire Europe after the fall of the Berlin wall.
more like get teared apart by NKVD lol
Orwell was pretty positive about his experience in Catalonia
We're controlled in the 1984-style by capitalism more than anything else. Turning the dollar into our God was the smartest thing our leadership could have ever done. It ensures the continuation of the rat race and the constant in-fighting and competition, which both serves to control the entire population as well as funnel money into government and ruling class elite (billionaires and up exclusively) through consumerism and taxation. Everything else is just secondary.
10k leagues under the sea depicted a submarine that was self sufficient with shit like a kelp farm on board. some people get it right way ahead of time
good ideas that are realistic become reality given enough time but in 1984 its just about control and every world leader wants more control
Have you read Brave New World?
It's by far more relevant.
Brave New World actually is a true utopia. There were no downsides, everyone was happy and productive and they even had a separate place for people who didn't want to be part of the utopian society.