>/pol is an echo chamber
This is true, yet merely pointing this out here makes many of you autistically screech in denial. Why? Instead of denying something that is obvious to people not part of the hivemind, why don't you look inwards and try to introspect and fix what is an obvious problem with yourselves?
RICHARD SPENCER IS CONTROLLED OPPOSITION.
>RICHARD SPENCER IS CONTROLLED OPPOSITION.
RICHARD SPENCER IS CONTROLLED OPPOSITION.
>RICHARD SPENCER IS CONTROLLED OPPOSITION.
RICHARD SPENCER IS CONTROLLED OPPOSITION.
>RICHARD SPENCER IS CONTROLLED OPPOSITION.
>Sup Forums is an echo chamber
>if you make a post against the consensus, dozens of people will reply to your post, giving your opinions higher visibility
Choose on, you retarded leaf
So what is your point? Yeah, if you against the hugbox safe space hivemind echo chamber numerous people will swarm you, but visibility is not a factor here since the users cannot alter the layout of the board. The mods take a step back because they know what a shithole this place is.
I don't understand this meme. We always have shills bombarding this board with pro multiculturalism, diversity, leftism, criticizing Donald Trump..etc..
On reddit if I make a post against the migrant crises, I'll get instant banned without a discussion. At least on Sup Forums if you make pro migrant crises post you won't get banned or we'll have a discussion. The worst that can happen to you here is being called a shill.
But you are not in charge of banning anybody. The mods are. The users cannot ban or downvote or censor anybody because the interface deprives you of that ability.
Reddit is boring, I come here for the edgyness.
>shills
You mean people that disagree with you? How hard that must be for you. Good thing you got your Sup Forums safe space to keep you safe!
>But you are not in charge of banning anybody. The mods are. The users cannot ban or downvote or censor anybody because the interface deprives you of that ability.
This would seem to disprove your contention, then, wouldn't it?
>Guise I am saying that there is nobody saying what I am saying
Your free to post your arguments on here without getting your post delete and your ip banned. The only thing mods have deleted are posts of porn pics and obviously shitposting. We'll discuss anything on Sup Forums, we aren't reddit
Every other political forum on the internet is a liberal globalist echo chamber. Now those of us who actually care about our nation's values and future have one too.
It's important to distinguish between "culture of people who agree on something" and "echo chamber." All communities and groups of people have generally agreed upon ideas between them, whereas an echo chamber is self-reinforcing in that it doesn't allow alternative ideas the potential to flourish.
No. Sup Forums is an echo chamber because most people here think the same thing and then circlejerk about it, and swarm any dissenters as shills and CTR people. That's what I meant. It was never my contention that Sup Forums is an echo chamber due to reddit-style censorship, friendo.
I was not talking about the mods/admins/janitors. I am talking about the users here.
>whereas an echo chamber is self-reinforcing in that it doesn't allow alternative ideas the potential to flourish.
Anybody that thinks differently from the hivemind here is called a shill and is subjected to immense levels of autism.
>Anybody that thinks differently from the hivemind here is called a shill and is subjected to immense levels of autism
That's pretty much true. Still, the fact that you are allowed to express a dissenting view to everyone here has some meaning. You may as well call any group of people who agree on something an "echo chamber" in this case, obviously this has no meaning.
You're as free to voice your opinion, and back it up with arguments as anyone else here. Other people disagreeing with you or calling you names does not stop you.
Th great thing about Sup Forums, and Sup Forums in general, is that truth tends to reign supreme because no agenda is enforced by the moderators. If most people here tend towards a specific belief, it's probably because the evidence supports it.
Now stop being such a faggot.
>You're as free to voice your opinion, and back it up with arguments as anyone else here. Other people disagreeing with you or calling you names does not stop you.
Are you retarded? I made this thread to ask why there is such reluctance here in simply admitting that this place is an echo chamber.
>Th great thing about Sup Forums, and Sup Forums in general, is that truth tends to reign supreme because no agenda is enforced by the moderators. If most people here tend towards a specific belief, it's probably because the evidence supports it.
The hivemind is real. Just because the mods/admins/janitors do not do any censoring here does not mean you are better than Reddit. That should be a base requirement that every site passes, in an ideal world. The ownership must enforce rules and ban illegal content.
The only faggots here are the people that deny this place is a safe space hivemind echo chamber hugbox circlejerk. They should just admit it and stop pretending they are better than internet leftists.
>If most people here tend towards a specific belief, it's probably because the evidence supports it.
That doesn't make pol not an echo chamber.
You also say that people calling names does not stop you. Social shaming does have an effect, though. Perhaps it is not "official policy" to silence certain opinions, but it does still effectively happen, just to a lesser degree, due to the abrasive closed-mindedness of the community in general.
Sort of like the argument that ie. Twitter is free to censor individuals like alt right because they are a private organization and are not bound by free speech protections. While technically true, free speech is still effectively not taking place.
well okay mr. maple you've made your point where are we to go from here
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true introspection and clear thinking leads to Hitlerism almost immediately
Yes, Sup Forums is an echo chamber. Reddit is also a free speech haven, Facebook isn't a retarded place, Google is not shadow censoring shit like it's 1984 and Trump isn't going to be president of the US.
the dude is right the internet segregates itself into separate ghettos where people who have some things in common gravitate. I don't think Sup Forums is the worst example of an echo chamber but it certainly is one in many ways. There is really no way to solve this issue either it is just the reality of internet communities.
What is the problem you fucking pajeet?
Pol isn't an echo chamber. There is literally no way to suppress any ideas the majority doesn't like. The worst that can happen is that you get butthurt over someone calling you a retard or something.
>Let everyone speak
>Shithole
Have a (you) and fuck off to reddit
Cunt.
Some echo chamber if your posting this. Get fucked caterpillar shit
pol was saying that trump would be president, seems to me they have a good grasp on reality better than the mass media.
But people here deny that and insist they are these noble fair upholders of virtue and dialogue when they fucking aren't. Even worse is they have the audacity to complain about how 'leftists' disagreed with them on facebook or some other site. The average person that uses this board is a frail hypocrite.
But I'm not talking about the admins/mods/janitors censoring anything, Poland. Learn2read.
Reddit is boring, I don't want to go to Reddit.
>/pol is an echo chamber
>for some reason, OP won't be banned or have his thread removed for having a dissenting opinion
Really makes your synapses fire
>/pol is an echo chamber
So how come your post hasn't been deleted yet?
sorry Bernie lost
See and and
You literally disprove yourself by presenting different opinion.
Nobody has to agree with you tho. For me you are only trying to "convince" more people to your shitty opinions.
>You literally disprove yourself by presenting different opinion.
False. Holy shit you people are retarded and so autistic and arrogant.
I NEVER SAID THE ADMINS HERE CENSOR DIFFERING OPINIONS, RETARDS. I said that the community here thinks almost all the same and you circlejerk about it. What part of your fat thick autistic skull cannot comprehend that?
What the fuck is your point? I read your shitty posts and it still doesn't make sense. Due to the very nature of the board this isn't an echo chamber. We the users will never have the ability to silence opposing viewpoints. Case in point, when we're flooded by shills there's nothing we can do. We're forced to engage with different viewpoints any time they show up here. The only reason Sup Forums isn't filled to the brim with leftists is because they don't want to be here, if they moved here en masse the people that are here now would just have to live with it. Your argument is fucking ridiculous as people have been pointing out to you and you're still too dumb to see it. May god have mercy on your soul.
You seem to have a fundamental misunderstand of what an echo chamber is. In order for you to understand such an abstract concept, here's what you should do.
First, go into a wide open cave and start shouting. Record the sounds. Next go into a busy metropolitan area like NYC and start shouting and of course, record the sounds.
Now listen to the first recording, then listen to the second, take note of the differences between the two. Now write down Traditional Social Media on a piece of paper. Below that writing, write Sup Forums. On the other side of the paper,write Echo Chamber and then write Not an Echo Chamber below that. Draw a line from Traditional Social Media and connect it to the idea that it most resembles; Echo Chamber or Not an echo chamber. Then draw a line for Sup Forums connecting it to the idea that it most resembles.
You're presenting a differing opinion from the consensus and you haven't been silenced or been called a shill or cuck yet
>a community is likeminded
and oh boy, look at that flag
truly fucking shocking
do you go to church and look for the atheists?
>False. Holy shit you people are retarded and so autistic and arrogant
Not an argument.
What are you going on about admins? You said to read your post so I did.
You admit that it's an echo chamber but at the same time present opinion that's disturbs it.
How it is an echo chamber if most OPs and threads are literally bait?
> the community here thinks almost all the same and you circlejerk about it
Wait, that's your point? I thought you were calling us an echo chamber. For it to be an echo chamber we would have to disallow or censor opposing points of view. Even if you meant to say they're only underrepresented then you weren't here when half the board was pro-Hillary shills posting over and over again how Drumpf was an idiot.
If your point is that a lot of Sup Forums shares similar opinions then yes that's true but that's not an echo chamber, that's just people meeting with people they like because they enjoy their freedom of association. Both us and the leftist who dislike it here.
He isn't wrong. This place is an echo chamber of bait.
beat me to it
Then all range of retarded opinions is represented and argued for and against.
If you are on that there are a lot of people that hold same opinions. Well that's why they come to this place.
But never try to fool anyone that we only reinforce them and never engage in a debate.
If anything many people disagree. Like right now.
I believe you to an extent but you offer no valid proof, ergo your argument is invalid.
YOU
SUCK
AT
CONVINCING PEOPLE
TO THINK LIKE YOU
BECAUSE NONE OF YOUR SHIT
IS BACKED UP BY FACTS
DATA
OR ACTUAL ARGUMENTS
THAT IS WHY WE DON'T THINK LIKE YOU
BECAUSE YOU ARE WRONG
AND CAN'T PROVE IT OTHERWISE
MEANWHILE
COMMONLY HELD Sup Forums BELIEFS
ARE BACKED UP WITH DATA, FACTS, REASON, AND LOGIC
GOOD
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Numerous people have already sperged out here and circlejerked about how it's NOT an echo chamber.
Yet why do you autists complain when leftists or anybody else circlejerk among themselves? Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house, neckbeards.
I already explained many times. The admins/mods/janitors here don't censor opinions. The community doesn't censor opinions or downvote because you have no ability to do so. How can you all be so autistic that you can't understand this? It's astounding. This place is an echo chamber because you almost all think the same thing and then circlejerk 24/7 about it.
>For it to be an echo chamber we would have to disallow or censor opposing points of view
This false argument, again. You can't censor posts you retard. That wasn't my point. It's like this board is full of autistic 18 year olds. I do remember that was the average age here the last time a survey was done.
>shills
People that disagree with you are not "shills", you spoiled child.
Is this what an autistic temper tantrum episode looks like typed out on a keyboard? The circlejerk in this thread is amazing and you're all proving my point. What a bunch of cringey neckbeards you all are.
>WAAAAAHHHH WE'RE RIGHT WE'RE ALWAYS RIGHT STOP DISAGREEING WITH US WAAAAAAAHHHH
Fucking losers.
This thread is proof that this board is not an echo chamber.
Do the vast majority of people here have similiar viewpoints. Yes.
As the vast majority of people do on any given Sup Forums board.
Go fucking look at that dry heap of shit board Lefty/pol/ and the exact same dynamic arises.
In fact when you get there do us a favor and fucking stay there leaf.
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>All range of retarded opinions is represented and argued for and against
>A lot of people hold same opinions. Well that's why they come to this place
>But never try to fool anyone that we only reinforce them and never engage in a debate
>If anything many people disagree. Like right now
You are here and you are voicing your opinion without being banned, thus this is not an echo chamber.
A FUCKING LEAF
Atleast your comment wont be downvoted into hidden status.
Besides that there a lot of things disagreed upon on this board.
Almost everyone in this thread is circlejerking about this place not being an echo chamber, only proving my point further and further.
You are all autistic neckbeard losers. I never said that the admins here censor opinions. I said that almost everyone on this board thinks the same way and then circlejerks about it. I am right about that. Any dissent from the norm and you get numerous autistic replies of anger and people calling you a shill or CTR.
Again, I NEVER said the admins censor opinions so stop using that as a phony point. The admins take a step back here and only get rid of things that violate the rules.
I also find it pathetic how you people have the audacity to complain about mainstream places like facebook where people disagree with you. Or leftist websites. You complain that people in those places don't think the same as you. I see that here constantly. And then you come on here and hunker down in your hivemind. It's just amazing, the contradictions and how you neckbeards don't even notice it. It must be the autism.
In all the online tests I take, I always come out as right wing, close to the center. I am not a leftist but it speaks volumes as to how this place is so autistic and refuses to introspect.
I could make a thread saying red and blue are the same color, and people would all disagree with me.
It doesnt make it a circlejerk it makes the statement retarded like in this thread.
>I never said that the admins here censor opinions
Since you insist on this line so much then why you call it an echo chamber. You don't act much like an echo.
>I am right about that
Your opinion m8. You fail to prove it tho.
>I also find it pathetic how you people have the audacity to complain
Much hypocrisy much? Take a step back and rethink what you just wrote.
Also this test anecdote is hilarious. E for effort user. You can stop baiting.
The statement is that Sup Forums is an echo chamber because people circlejerk about what they agree on all the time. This thread and this board constantly proves me right. Your fedora tipping analogy is false.
>Since you insist on this line so much then why you call it an echo chamber. You don't act much like an echo.
You people keep bringing up "IT'S NOT AN ECHO CHAMBER BECAUSE THE ADMINS DON'T CENSOR YOU" when I never even mentioned that in the first place. That's what you're all bringing up to circlejerk about even further and save face. This is about the community, not the admins.
>Your opinion m8. You fail to prove it tho.
Calm your snarky attitude, little prick. This thread alone proves me right.
>Much hypocrisy much? Take a step back and rethink what you just wrote.
Awwww, what's the matter little baby, can't handle dissent? Baby gonna cry? Kill yourself, you soft little neckbeard. You all circlejerk in an echo chamber 24/7 and have the audacity to whine about people in other places not circlejerking about the same things you do. Fucking kill yourselves.
Thee are many fewer people here doing that now as there were years ago. There were serious socialist and communist and 'situationist' threads like during OWS and earlier.
>a fucking leaf
>bringing up to circlejerk
Do admins censor you? No. What are we circle jerking about?
Like you have obligation to argue against simple fact.
The rest is not an argument.
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99.99% of what is said on Sup Forums is ironic and a veil.
00.01% of what is said is from Narcissus incarnate.
And you're gonna sit there and say that because of the Narcissus incarnate, our "echo chamber" is somehow a legitimized source of information?
>the rest of the internet censors anything that isn't liberal propaganda
>Sup Forums is an echo chamber
Sup Forums is the ONLY chamber where this kind of discourse can be had without persecution.
Pure unadulterated fact and truth is persecuted everywhere else if it doesn't tow the narrative. so OF COURSE Sup Forums SEEMS LIKE AN ECHO CHAMBER.
Everyone here is like a pilgrim fleeing europe from religious persecution to the americas. You have your cake, fuck off and let us bake ours.
Look besides ''us'' backing Trump and being against Globalism i think its hard to find a thing we agree on or ''circlejerk'' about on this board.
>Do admins censor you? No
But I never said they did. Why are so many of you bringing up this ONE phony point, and then circlejerking about that? How funny - I point out how Sup Forums is an echo chamber, then everyone circlejerks about how it's not an echo chamber, then they circlejerk about how the admins don't ban me WHEN I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
You all need to commit suicide.
>What are we circle jerking about?
Well, in this thread at least, you are almost all circlejerking about how this place is not an echo chamber. You can go ahead and deny it all you want, but the posts are there for all to see you dumb piece of garbage.
Sup Forums is an echo chamber filled with nazis.
Leave and go tell your fellow plebbitors so they never come here.
I don't use Reddit and I am not a leftist. I knew before I made this thread that it would be filled with snarky denial and I was not wrong. It's like I can tell the future.
There sure is an echo since you started repeating yourself.
Then you are right I guess. Thanks leddit for creating another echo chamber.
>you are almost all circlejerking about how this place is not an echo chamber.
Give one fucking example outside of this thread, since everyone is disagreeing with you for obvious reasons.
Sup Forums is an echo chamber filled with nazis. You must go and quickly tell the world so they never come here. Nobody would be interested in an echo chamber filled with nazis, it's why nobody visits Sup Forums.
>I said that the community here thinks almost all the same
prove it
Nice way of admitting that you have no other argument other than projection and snarky denial.
>everyone is disagreeing with you for obvious reasons
Everyone is disagreeing with me because they are snarky autistic neckbeards that cannot introspect due to their autism. They don't want to admit they have any problems. It doesn't surprise me at all.
Also, look at the support for Trump. The support for white nationalism. How anybody that disagrees with these ideas are immediately dismissed as "shills" by numerous autists.
I've been here for over 2 years now, it's obvious to anybody outside the hivemind what a circlejerk this place is.
This thread, among many other examples.
It's not my fault you autistic shut-ins don't want to look deep within yourselves and solve your own problems.
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>Not an argument
You still fail to prove it. I will ignore when you are repeating yourself.
Tell me one argument of mine that is wrong.
>This thread, among many other examples.
Make your fucking point name one.
Name a whole list if we are such circlejerkers it cant be that hard.
It is as i said before except for right wing politicians and anti globalism we dont agree on anything.
>Acting like I'm disagreeing with you
I literally just agreed with you twice. You're a true leaf :') . Now go, and tell the whole world Sup Forums is an echo chamber filled with nazis. This is imperative to the survival of the white race.
Are you comments being removed?
Do you need an account here to post which could be banned?
Has your thread been removed?
No dumbfuck it has not, and echo chamber is a place where no opposing opinion is allowed like twitter or reddit.
You have freedom of expression on Sup Forums but others have the freedom to call you a shit head in exchange.
Get used to it or fuck off back to you echo chamber of choice faggot
>butthurt that Sup Forums makes sweeping generalizations about people who disagree with them
>Everyone is disagreeing with me because they are snarky autistic neckbeards that cannot introspect due to their autism
Try again leaf
>echo chamber
>no echoes
pick one you retarded faggot
>blacked.com
lost
And rational intelligent discussion from all sides with a shared board culture (not views) all existing happily right alongside genuinely entertaining shitposts. This place is only slightly less useless than Sup Forums now.
IE:
Things i think Sup Forums does not circlejerk about:
Police
Gays
Hitler
Wars
Race of all kinds
Religion of all kinds
Countries
Abortion
Education
I have a masters in philosophy, maple nigger.
>bawww I keep getting blown the fuck out in arguments because I fail to make any actual arguments!!!
I'll entertain your stupidity. What's your position that you think is ignored here?
I've already named my points. Your autism stops you from acknowledging that I am right.
Normal people already know to stay far away from this place. I am not leaving this board. You also did not get Trump elected, actual voters and the electoral college did.
>Are you comments being removed?
>Has your thread been removed?
>No dumbfuck it has not, and echo chamber is a place where no opposing opinion is allowed like twitter or reddit.
Opposing opinions are allowed on twitter and reddit. And I have said MANY times in this thread that I am talking about the community, not the admins. I know I am upsetting all you neckbeards by poking holes in your false reality, but still, you don't have a leg to stand on. I never said I was being censored in the first place. You snarky autistic neckbeards keep bringing up that point over and over again even though I was never talking about in the first place. Euthanasia for you all would be a good option right about now.
>You have freedom of expression on Sup Forums but others have the freedom to call you a shit head in exchange.
>Get used to it or fuck off back to you echo chamber of choice faggot
Oh look, a snarky neckbeard in an echo chamber telling someone else to go to an echo chamber. How ironic! No, I will stay here. You and the legions of losers sperging out here do not rattle me. Unlike you, I actually can handle when someone disagrees with me. Nobody has refuted my premise at all, not even put a dent in it. I wish I could argue with you all the whole thread, but time restraints stop me from doing so and I can only BTFO you all so much before I have to go.
Oh, and the people saying I am from reddit or a leftist are autistic sperg neckbeard losers. I am "right wing" in many ways. Fucking faggots.
Trying to prove OP (me) wrong by doing exactly what he said they would do - Sup Forums in a nutshell.
>pol is an echo chamber
>this thread gets no less discussion than any other thread on this board
hmm....... maybe.... pol isn't an echo chamber.....
pic related is a real echo chamber. wanna get banned for calling someone a retard?
(OP)
But I am talking about the Sup Forums community, not the Sup Forums admins. Holy shit you people are so autistic.
muh this thread is not a point.
Name one circlejerk subject besides ''this thread''
you'll never be white
blacked.com
hahahhahaahahhahhah
You don't get banned for having a different opinion, you just get called a faggot. But in a way it is an echo chamber because it scares away anyone who doesn't agree with the general consensus so you generally only hear one side of the argument represented
???
so the fact you're sitting on this board constantly trying to refute everyone's argument and "proving them wrong" means it's an "echo chamber".
this board provides a free platform for uncensored ideas and discussion, it is not an echo chamber as any topic can be discussed in any way an individual wants. there is no censorship and the posts are not organized based on popularity.
admins are often part of a community as well.
>your argument is just calling me (or "you people") autistic
nice meme, do this on a real echo chamber and find out what happens
This
>and is subjected to immense levels of autism.
The word for that here is "logical arguments". You may not have ever seen these before.
>But I am talking about the Sup Forums community
And what was your position that the ENTIRE Sup Forums community ganged up on you for? Was it something stupid that's been beat to death here? Lurk more.
>tfw that one fucking leaf just keeps floating up and coming back to the blower
>But in a way it is an echo chamber because it scares away anyone who doesn't agree with the general consensus
If you get scared away from defending your position because you GOT CALLED A NAME then... shit, you must be a leftist. Is that why they think calling someone racist or sexist or bigot ends the conversation, because nobody could POSSIBLY get past being called a name?
i agree. a lot of people simply ignore entire arguments because somewhere in there they get called stupid and use it as an excuse to disregard everything critical and go back to their unchallenged ideas safe space. funnily enough i see this all the time on /r/politics
if you can't defend your argument you are a loser by definition, so they don't want a real argument, just a discussion they can control to make you try and change your mind
where'd the leaf go? did he finally get his ideas challenged and run away?
sage