Why do you oppose calexit, Sup Forums? Us leftists don't particularly like you, and you don't particularly like us. California isn't going to go conservative anytime soon guys, the culture is intrinsically against that. By keeping us in the union, you are just creating polarization and civil unrest in your country.
And don't say it couldn't happen. California, by itself, couldn't secede; the US would probably wage war on it and take it back in a matter of months. However, hear me out. If the ballot is passed, California could possibly offer to join Canada. The Canadians would hardly refuse having the world's 6th largest economy suddenly under their rule, and thus Cali would simply switch to a Canadian province. If the US wanted to take Canada, they would have to wage war on Canada, meaning that the Western European countries (who are allied with Canada) would be forced into a nuclear war with the US, leading to mutually assured destruction. Thus, the US is stuck and cannot take back California. And to those saying that US loyalists would take over the rural areas and cut off the food supply, trust me, the Canadian military could wipe them out in a snap. But those are just my thoughts.
I would be one of the first in line to help vehemently drag this state back into the union if it came down to liberal secessionists trying to jerk themselves out of the Union.
Logan Gray
Calexit will function better as having San Francisco and Los Angeles as two city states and leaving inlands to the US.
With low tax and pro business policies like in HK or SG, LA and SF would be richer than Switzerland or Norway.
Blake Perez
dude California would last two years before everybody died of a complete & total lack of usable resources
shut up dad
Austin Harris
Nothing's gonna happen, yes millennials are butthurt but no one gives a fuck about them and nothing's gonna happen because as a generation, we're too lazy to do anything about it.
Christopher Torres
fpbp
you will be spared on the day of the rake
Kayden James
It won't happen, period.
You fucking idiots keep thinking it will, I don't know why.
Benjamin James
California is home to a major international ports of call we're not just about to let you go and take your economy with you. You leftists can fuck the hell off to Mexico if you hate it here so much go see how your progressive values fair down there. Or are you trying to flee to white Canada you racist shits.
Jaxson Sanders
Yeah, because not being part of a country can only mean a complete and absolute embargo.
It's a great idea, get all your liberal faggots to build their commie paradise in the People's Republic of California and leave the rest of America alone.
Nathaniel Morgan
We WANT it to happen, we're just smart enough to know its not likely.
Liam Evans
I look forward to reconquering California.
Nolan Perry
You know you cucks can't survive off drinking your girlfriends lovers cum for the rest of your lives. Your desert state needs water that's provided out of state.
Cooper Cook
OMG! CA doing what TX usually does and the kiddos are to stupid to know recent history. Keep being slid till it's too late kids.
Eli Nguyen
Pretty much this. Why the hell doesn't California join Mexico instead of Canada? All the cities have spic names. Fucking hypocrites
Lincoln Morgan
Please go. No one opposes it. I live in Colorado and our farms would be much greener if we didn't have to give so much water to you. Bye and good luck.
Noah Campbell
How about we just revoke all the federal funding to sanctuary cities and watch CA go red again?
Alexander Ward
also Canada ain't coming down here to defend you're horribly misguided venture. Nor would they accept you into their state exactly because they want to maintain their relationship with the US. In case you haven't noticed NATO is basically America and friends. No one from the west is coming to help you. Russia might throw down with you and send guns and trainers, but now Putin and Trump are bro status it isn't likely. You will be conquered and the traitors will be hung. I welcome the day I can march on San Fransisco and kill communists like the good old days.
Parker Brown
This, the Hyundai Sonata my mom drives was made in Alabama, the remaining union states might somehow make it expensive to import stuff or refuse trade. California doesn't produce as many goods as we like to think.
Nathaniel Baker
i don't give a shit about you being a leftist but calexit is honestly such a fucking autistic hypothetical situation
John King
That's what you faggots said about Brexit.
Aiden Thomas
Two problems with calexit
1) California is not self-sustainable. They require copious amounts of federal subsidies to operate. Not to mention they only survive due to water imported over from the colorado river and lake mead. And even then, they still have severe droughts every couple years Hell, they were even trying to file an injunction to the federal government to force the great lake states to give them fresh water from there too. Point being that California would look more like The Road Warrior if they were on their own.
2) California would continue to devolve into a shithole, obviously. It's essentially northern mexico, but with more niggers. If they secede, you essentially just TRIPLED the size of the US southern border. Think about all the extra border that would need to be defended against invasion from mudskins. If we broke california off, the muds would illegal immigrate to America... AGAIN.
Kevin Perry
I am so pissed that we are going to be remembered worse than boomers, these kids are fucking burning their own city down over the Don.
UK makes a lot of shit, get's it's own resources and isn't comprised of 50 states doing their own thing, it can be on it's own.
Aaron Nelson
Cuckifornia can die in a wildfire. Nothing of value would be lost.
Adam Watson
A) We dont want you B) We cant afford to double our population over night
Levi Hall
California is the 8th largest economy in the world.
And if you say Brexit can't happen here, you're dead wrong. It already happened with the US election.
Jayden Myers
>the US would probably wage war on it and take it back in a matter of months >months
kek... From who? your national guard members that prefer trump? Or your overwhelming SJW population?
Joshua Lopez
That's not the direction things are going in LA and SF.
They're heading toward an end-game of techno-feudalism. A tiny class of super-wealthy jewish elites in charge of everything, with an enormous underclass of brown people doing their bidding while being placated by gibs. That's the point where these cities already are. It will only get worse as normal middle-class whites continue to leave CA in mass exodus. These cities are the canary in the coalmine
Henry Cox
>It already happened with the US election. I blame the media for underestimating Trump's support, he fucking crushed her, Brexit came pretty close and was deemed unlikely right before it happened.
Lucas Hughes
Calexit is going to be the greatest happening since Trump's election.
Ryan Myers
>Cali fag here
Please dont leave me to die among all these low iq cali libtards..theres still some good people here in cali
Ayden Ramirez
we don't care if you fuckwits emigrate from the union
but you're not taking american soil with you
Cameron Adams
Well, I just suggested that that is prob the most feasible way of LA and SF as separate countries would prosper. Also, I think it is possible that Jews will keep those two places (if they were to be separated) to be used as a tax haven for their own sake cuz it'd be a tax haven that is closer than those at Caribbean
Grayson Gutierrez
This
Hunter Carter
Move to Jefferson before the border closes.
Andrew White
Same here, just trying to survive, The Mexican guys that I work with liked Trump better than Clinton, it's the liberal whites in cali that are really cancerous.
William Carter
>we just leave >we just join with Canada Why would you want to join with anybody you freedom land? Simply be an open border free for all land where everybody can arrive. Just be without border laws, from Africa to Mexico anybody can come.
Adrian Cox
naw you are just a retard.
The US wouldn't even let the shitty states of the south in the 1800s leave the union. let alone one of their biggest economic power houses of the 21st century.
I kinda hope you would try though.
If there were ever going to be an honest split, the military would fully go for the right wing states, so you would all be fucked.
Cameron Miller
>go on Cuckifornians, leave the US! >j-just don't take Facebook, Google, Apple, Microsoft, SpaceX, or any other successful businesses with you t-though...
Lucas Sullivan
Word. California is prime real estate. There's a reason it has the capacity to hold some 40 million people. Great place for all sorts of industries. We're not giving it up.
Jack Garcia
And that was the same where normal men at the same weapons as govt people, yet they still lost, all the Calicux will not beat the US gov, especially Trump is telling them not to let us succeed from the union
Levi Diaz
>He thinks California would be able to function on it's own >California needs water from other states to keep it's population alive >USA is going to allow SJWs and millennials take away land from it and do nothing about it
This is why republicans hate leftists, you are fucking retarded.
Luis Myers
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Henry Wright
Lolzzz i messed up the green text.. fail af
Henry Myers
>Downey Sweet, I grew up in norwalk, and when I was driving to see my grandmother, I saw a car with two Trump stickers on it, that's how strong his hispanic vote was.
Cameron Myers
your thoughts are shit m8.
Cooper Anderson
>muh evil Republicans >we need to keep low wage workers >we want to leave the union because you wont let us have our low wage workers
yeah, sure...just pretend its about your states rights....
Noah Carter
There is no provisions in the US Constitution, or the CA State Constitution, for secession. It's not happening without a shooting war - if you retards try, the Feds WILL send in troops to take over and replace any Dem politicians who are dumb enough to try.
The feasibility of a successful secession is nil. The states are too intertwined in a financial, legal, and business sense, and leaving would just create chaos.
CA doesn't even have enough water of it's own, let alone natural resources. There's oil, but the lefties in Sacramento would never let it be tapped again. Most of the big money would leave the state - footing the bill for the illegals alone would force any company medium to large out. The farms would be killed by embargos or tariffs to the US (who won't be favorable), and you'd have no electrical grid.
Hollywood would pick up and leave - they get way too many tasty tax breaks from the Fed.
And, Canada doesn't want CA. They can't afford it. CA has one of the largest economies of all the states, but most of that business would disapear instantly, like all of the port business, and air freight that comes in from asia.
Plus, you'd lose the military, which means death for the cities near the bases. San Diego would be fucked. And, you'ld have nothing to protect your new borders, and keep others from coming in.
I guess it's fun to talk about, and god knows it's a typical liberal temper tantrum when they lose, but CA is not leaving the US. Period. If you think it will, you're literally retarded.
Jaxon Garcia
apprently even the whites in california voted for Clinton. Hell . even the bluest state in the union of Minnesota voted for trump when when you only count white votes.
california is literally a basket case at this point.
Dylan Phillips
Dope user, where in norwalk? I lived off studebaker & firestone for about a year.. I also got shot at 2 times in norwalk just for playing basketball at a park lol. It happened within a month, so i had to get the fuck outta there fast. A shame that gang violence has taken a big chunk of norwalk now.
Mason Peterson
wouldn't even need to.
>cali secedes. >cali realizes it doesn't get federal funding from the US anymore >raises corporate taxes to the highest in the world >meanwhile, next door is still the world's largest economy with a 15% tax rate due to president donald motherfucking trump.
The people of california are already leaving due to high taxes, heading to Washington and Oregon. This would be the final straw.
Elijah Scott
Oh, and by the way - you are retarded. Secessions is secession, regardless if the state goes it alone, or offers to go with Canada. They're leaving, that's secession. Isn't happening.
I also forgot - the Feds own quite a bit of CA real estate, and they're not going to just let that leave.
Sorry, kid. Your ideas are dumb and hysterically bad.
Asher Price
>shot at 2 times Damn dude, that sucks, I moved to Huntington Beach in 2012, but I lived on sycamore st by the post office.
Matthew Lewis
No fuck that. Give me at least 3 years to finish medical school, then CA can do whatever the fuck it wants to
Thomas Foster
couldn't you just sell your astronomically overpriced bungalows out from your boomer parent's hands to some chinese investor and escape to canada with all of the profits instead? quit trying to ruin america traitors
California is the original victim and current day experiment for the leftists to push their agenda. They're already attempting to force the "blue Texas" narrative while driving the border blue. We must retake our states back. Every single one of them.
Joseph Adams
Yes, an economy based on things that won't exist anymore, if CA left the US.
Just stop. None of you Calexit retards have even tried to look at the reality of this. It's not happening, ever, unless there's a total nuclear war with Russia, and the US government ceases to exist.
Luke Wood
>Commiefornia secedes >President Trump declares war >Commiefornia gets btfo
I support #CalExit
Brody Rivera
I want it to happen, so they fail and come begging for us to save them.
Jason Lopez
I think calexit is great >they already gave up their weapons >seceding from the union is an act of war (see civil war) >all local governments will be disbanded and the state will be under marshal law in an hour >we can start throwing cry baby sjw's in jail >making America Great Again
Nathaniel Gomez
The Ca economy is based entirely on things that need US Patents and or US Copyrights to be made. All industry in Ca will be gone the minute they secede All money making people will flee into other states the minute Ca secedes Ca can not produce enough food or water to feed its population on its own.
Nathan Flores
Did a little looking, if this farcical Calexit happened, just in Federally owned labs, CA would lose Lawrence Berkeley, Lawrence Livermore, Sandia, Nasa Ames, Nasa Jet Propulsion, the Stanford Linear Excelerator, and a pretty heft list of government labs for the military, and departments like the USGS.
All of that, gone, with all those jobs.
Not happening, dummies. You really think the Feds will let nuclear research just walk away?
John Morales
>Cali would simply switch to a Canadian province. If the US wanted to take Canada, they would have to wage war on Canada, meaning that the Western European countries (who are allied with Canada) would be forced into a nuclear war with the US
That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.That's not how politics work.The canadians wouldn't accept you, nobody would because nobody is dumb enough to actively try to engage in a war with the US.You would be a rebelling rogue state and the US would be seen as the defender, therefore most of the world would support the US. With that said, I hope you guys secede and the military proceeds to wipe all of you rebelling cucks out.
Samuel Brown
Won't happen. The Democrats in every other state would be fighting it harder than the Republicans. The other Dems need their Cali electoral votes.
Sebastian White
>meaning that the Western European countries (who are allied with Canada) would be forced into a nuclear war with the US Lmao they wouldn't give one shit about Canada, let alone enough to get themselves nuked.
Ayden Brown
Hollywood would leave - LA would be broke in 6 months from that alone.
Apple would leave. Microsft and Google would leave. Any corporation that's incorporated through the United States would leave, and take all those jobs with them. The car manufacturers have a pretty solid investment in CA, as well.
Anything banking would leave. Anything stock market would leave. LA has a shit ton of companies that work with the Asian stock markets, they'd leave. Disney would leave. Pixar would leave. Half the publishing in the country would leave. All of the insurance companies would leave.
How retarded do you have to be, to think it could even happen?
Oh, that's right. Liberals. Pretty fucking dumb.
Austin Clark
I'd rather watch you all squirm for 8 years and then have the fault line dump you into the ocean.
Thomas Fisher
You think that a fucking leaf would try to take an area of the US?
Jonathan Bell
I don't at all. California goes away and republicans will win at every election for decades. Also all the celebrities and shills will be self contained away from america, unable to use their influence to control americans to believe in retarded things. All we lose are some pacific ports (we still have washington), oil (90% of all us oil is outside cali), and the movie industry (who gives a shit). California would probably be bankrupt in mere months after secession and probably come crying back to america when they suffer another drought.
The real question is will we take the cali's back? No. We will let them suffer.
Liam Ramirez
>thus Cali would simply switch to a Canadian province. If the US wanted to take Canada, they would have to wage war on Canada, meaning that the Western European countries (who are allied with Canada) would be forced into a nuclear war with the US, leading to mutually assured destruction. Thus, the US is stuck and cannot take back California.
Congratulations you are the biggest retard on Sup Forums. That is actually the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Charles Murphy
Yes, please go.
Asher Anderson
Europe will always back the usa nerd
Oliver Cruz
Will I get to keep my American citizenship if this shithole exits the union?
Eli Ross
elaborate plz?
Jaxson Gutierrez
We need their ports
Isaac Anderson
All those things that CA makes money off of are property of USA companies and thanks to copyright laws they wouldn't be allowed to produce/sell any of it. They would get sued.
Lucas Moore
Pretty sure Cali net pays the federal government. Its simple: the economy is huge so it generates lots of tax revenue. Its states like Nebraska which get a lot more from the feds than they pay.
Matthew Foster
? can you elaborate more?
Anthony Jones
Let's say I produced a new phone and registered it with the US Patent office. I start my company in CA, but my product is patented by the US
Meaning if I want to continue to make profit, I can't resume operations in CA if it became it's own country.
Andrew Kelly
Ohh, I get it. Thanks man, time to go have a talk with my lib friends
David Barnes
it's fine with me. let's get those douche bags on the south side of the wall.
Joseph Jackson
The entertainment industry is run out of New York, not Hollywood. Most TV and movies aren't even shot in Ca anymore. Any entertainment people, or celeb that wanted to continue to work would have to go stay loyal to the USA. All tech would also be forced to move to the USA to avoid "import tarrifs" and the high taxes a socialist Ca would require If either didn't move to the USA, their Copyrights and patents would become us government property and/or public domain. most manufacturing would leave for the same reasons. I was just in central Ca last week. It is a dust bowl. Liberal policies have destroyed the agriculture in Ca. The state can't grow enough food to feed its population Any productive member of society living in Ca would leave. The state would be nothing but gang bangers and unarmed wanna be actors
Andrew Lewis
I oppose calexit because I live here and I don't want to be stuck here when California elects Jerry Brown to be glorious leader and shuts off all emigration to the United States. Let me permanently move to Pennsylvania or Colorado first then we can get CA out of the union.
Jayden Martin
I don't oppose it, bye all.
Connor Evans
in a matter of months? hahaha come on man you wouldn't last a couple days.
>However, hear me out. If the ballot is passed, California could possibly offer to join Canada. The Canadians would hardly refuse having the world's 6th largest economy suddenly under their rule What kind of fucking nonsense is this?
Owen Peterson
>Canada risking MAD to save a couple Assblasted self-disarming high-as-kite commie nigger-n-spic cock gobblers All of you should immediately run west and drown
Mason Watson
California has to join mexico, otherwise you would be racist for joining an even whiter country.
Camden Cruz
thinking the canadian military can effectively do anything. go smoke more crack faggot
Ryan Taylor
>Why do you oppose calexit, Sup Forums? I don't! Get the fuck out of the union, niggers!
William Moore
Because you faggots don't have a legitimate reason to secede. You lost an election, boo fucking hoo, you know who else left when they lost an election? The states in the CSA. Look how well that turned out. Now put on your big goy panties and act like fucking adults.
Gavin Howard
You think Western European countries would wage war against the fucking USA for basically taking his spoiled queer state back from Canada? kek
Evan Russell
>Why do you oppose calexit, Sup Forums? Fuck California itself, but I support the Constitution. The only Constitutional way out is to get 3/4 of the States to agree to amend the Constitution to let/send you out. Make that your goal and you have my support.
This whole Calexit thing is hilariously hypocritical after all the years of coastal leftists mocking Texas for "threatening to secede." I suspect a lot of conservatives really want to rub it in by mocking back.
Charles Cruz
This
Nathan Moore
Californian here.
The first time I've heard of calexit was today in the news, it says that it will be on the ballot in 2018.
I don't see much talk of it outside of Sup Forums, most Californians have no clue that this is a thing. I doubt its something that Californians are excited about, its probably something they are more terrified about.
I'M terrified at the thought of a California secession. It would mean a far worse future for me and my family. California is not self sustainable. There aren't a whole lot of good reasons to secede either. If the rest of the US was going on the completely wrong direction, then I'd support it. But it looks like the rest of the US is going in the right direction. Its a terrible idea to secede just because liberals and Mexicans in the big cities don't like Trump and want more Mexicans.
Wyatt Edwards
>forced into a nuclear war with the US What eurofag wants to die for a fucking leaf?
John Roberts
I'm hoping you secede and get conquered by Mexico or starve to death. :)
Benjamin Fisher
Only the blue counties can secede then.
Don't forget that we shot okies for entering the county here in the 1930s.