American """democracy"""

>American """democracy"""

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DRUMPF BTFO

we did it hillarybros #imwithher

>The electoral college was created so the popular vote wont elect a massive idiot
>The electoral college elects a massive idiot

Yea this is the funny thing. This is *the* scenario for the Electoral College, and yet it's likely they won't do their jobs and elect someone else. "Faithless Electors" aren't a thing - faithless is what they're supposed to be when things go wrong.

We aren't a fucking democracy.

Fuck off

Didn't she get millions of votes from illegals?

I think the votes that eventually came in also showed trump winning the popular vote

Illegals can't vote no matter what Sup Forums, Sup Forums tier source, or anyone on Sup Forums says

I know you just got this off of reddit you fucking faggot

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Why not just scrap the elections completely and let the elite decide who runs the country? That way we poor peasants who doesn't understand better won't have to worry about voting for the wrong candidate.

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MADAME

PRESIDENTE

Seriously why is the EC a thing. I read the thread over at r/politics and it looks like it was made to coddle racist white people. This need to stop and will once the old people die white votes will drop drastically and America can finally progress.

we aren't a democracy

oh, canada

Mafia make america great again

I hope people in this thread are memeing.

oh man are you retarded

idiot

They theoretically can in some states, it's just that people are pretty sure it doesn't happen.
Also, OP we explain to you how it prevents places like NYC and CA from just putting in presidents who only represent them and give zero shits about smaller states and rural voters.

>We aren't a fucking democracy.
>we aren't a democracy

>A non-democracy exporting democracy
It all makes sense now

>trump is dumb

loving every laugh

>rigged

telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/23/hillary-clintons-campaign-urged-computer-scientists-challenge/

WTF!? Now I hate Canadians.

We need two walls now.

muh popular vote

>it's just that people are pretty sure it doesn't happen.
no they aren't, there is literally no way to know, and there is no way that any of them stayed home in states where they can do it for this particular election

If the president was elected by popular vote then both candidates would've campaigned much differently.
They both knew the rules of the game.
People defending or opposing the electoral college are just shilling for their candidate of choice.

Listen, Black people! Latinos! Muslims! Gays! Refugees! I hear your desperate pleas, and I feel for you, I really do! But my hands are tied. I have no choice. Trust me, if I could stop TPP, and overturn Obamacare, and bring back the coal jobs, WITHOUT taking away your rights, or booting you out of the country, or sending squads of military-armed policemen into your neighborhoods to enforce “law and order”, I would! Believe me, I would!
It's not that I hate you. It's that this is just the hand I’ve been dealt. Gotta take the good with the bad. I’ve done the math, really pro-and-con'd it, and all I can say is that I take no joy in reaching the conclusion that my thirst for vengeance against the political class outweighs the pain that Trump has publicly and repeatedly promised to inflict on you.
I know it's gonna be bad, but your suffering is a sacrifice I'm willing to make. I mean if you really think about it, this whole thing almost hurts me more than it hurts you.
Sincerely,
The Good Trump Voter (literally you)

this, you can't play by an agreed upon set of rules and then complain about them once you lose.

Illegals elected Hillary, Russian KGB hackers elected Trump. I don't know how much of this is true but that's the story.

with every canadian post, the election of trudeau makes more and more sense

what an embarrassment of a country

Thank you for Correcting the Record!

kys fagronto resident

>r/politics and it looks like it was made to coddle racist white people
>r/politics
>racist white people
This checks out.


Also, only "racist" white men could vote when it was conceived so to develop that train of thought would involved in shoving one'sown head deeply into their own ass.

America isnt a democracy and was not intended to be one.

do farners really vote? lol
they typical people in american movies who waste their day with moonshine in one hand, sewed-off shotgun in the other and organize mud fight competitions during NASCAR races as banjo music plays inthe backgrund?

Yes it is. Americans just use retarded definitions of existing words.

We're a republic and mostly export republics and parliamentary democracies (essentially republics) you dumb dildo.

the US is a federal republic. Republic and Democracy are not exactly the same thing and plus you're nitpicking.

no. it's representative republic

Thats because a straight democracy is fucking stupid. A lot of users based their votes on them being a woman or the other because they liked their memes. There needs to be users that are aware of the actual insides and understand how they work.

The ones that understand should be given more power than those that vote based on facebook pictures

Blue collar and rural voters are pretty active politically. Farmers and factory workers are affected a lot by government policies (we have a department of agriculture that stabilizes and subsidizes farming).

To who crusty white folks afraid of progress? Sorry but white folks time is up. While you are crying because you are to dumb to go to school I'm getting grants and scholarships because schools want PoC.

How long until the vote count ends?

It was made to stop populism from electing a poor candidate for president.

But it has not operated how it was originally designed for about 130 years now

Because you lost?

American education

theyre not done yet with illegals

Never. Your life is now u.s. politics 24/7
HAHAHAHAHA

Not him but we're a Republic. Try not to insult someone's intelligence/education if you're not correct.

>waaaaaaaah I don't understand the concept of a Federation

What the US need is to abolish the vote. Allow a group of intellectuals from the UN from around the world for optimal cultural and racial diversity (yes that means no white domination) to choose the candidate. It's stop populism and the will of white racists from handing the american military over to them.

>Dutch education

Bernie was the best option
You literally can't prove me wrong on this

What does that entail? Being a republic simply means you arent being ruled by a monarch or central power you have no influence over. And a democracy simply means the people (as a whole) can rule themselves, directly or indirectly through representatives. It's not mutually exclusive.

we need the same here, only people with a certain degree of education or cultural level should be allowed to vote, and prevent idiots from voting based on whatever kind of mentality they may have or influence on them.
it' sad, but many of these people vote out of ignorance, it's not like they are trying to be evil, they are just idiots.

It's not mutually exclusive but people here clearly mean direct democracy.

He's a socialist. He's literally the worst choice

That would mean we arent a democracy either, which is bullshit.

>Bush Jr. just barely wins the election in 2000
>figured it came down to one county in Florida that eventually decided everything
>first order of Business for Bush is to assigned an election review committee
>they review almost 200 million votes over the next 8 years
>find just under two hundred credible cases of voter fraud

So between 2001 and 2008 a well funded voter review committee supported by republicans found the rate of voter fraud to be 200/200,000,000 or 0.0001%

>worse than trump and hillary

What is this irrational fear that you guys have of new things

Socialism isn't new, just shitty

Can't believe you spend half an hour looking for some bullshit study just so you can mass reply to everybody that called you retarded. All that is required to vote in California is a driver's license. Illegals in California can get drivers licenses. Illegals vote in California whether you'd like to admit it or not. But thank you for correcting the record.

>seriously asking an American why he hates socialism

That's like asking an Amazonian tribe why they don't like loggers

>All that's required to vote in California is a driver's license
Nope. You just need to give them an address and a last name
t. Californian who worked the polls in 2012 and also voted this election

JUST

Hillary Clinton didn't do a Bush v Gore so that america wouldn't implode after the election.
Also, both Trump and Clinton stated before election day that they would be in favor of reforming the electoral college.

It's because some dumb people allowed niggers to vote.

In a normal democracy, only white people who live in the said country for at least 3 generations should have the right of vote.

His numbers never added up so to deliver he'd have to fuck over anyone who want poor with taxes which wouldn't happen even with a democratic ruled Congress. Also, as far as the economy as a whole he was a failure in life untill he was older.

>Hillary Clinton didn't do a Bush v Gore so that america wouldn't implode after the election.
lol no, she didn't because she complained about Trump saying he was potentially going to be contesting the result several days before the election and backed herself and her entire party into a corner about the issue.

tbqh your prez is more of a socialist than what he thinks he is.
He's just outright banning the main fundamental core of modern capitalism which is free trade and is pampering work unions with scapegoats instead of increasing productivity through an effective work reform.
Just mark my words, you can't subsidize the whole manufacturing industry forever Tyrone.

lol and drump and other republicucks started crying when obongo was elected. they called for the abolition of the electoral college, swore obama was about to take their gunz and kill them all in fema camps.

now cuckservatives and trump won and the electoral college it's all good and nice

Sometimes I wonder would a presidency be reconsider if the candidate who lost is ahead by more then 10 million votes.

>lol and drump and other republicucks started crying when obongo was elected. they called for the abolition of the electoral college
never happened

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The lefties faggots can't understand the american election system was always the fucking same?
>UUUUURRRR DURRRRRR CLINTON LOSE I DIDN'T LIKE IT SO I WILL PISS OFF ABOUT THE ELECTION SYSTEM USED ON THIS COUNTRY SINCE IT WAS CREATED BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TRUMP

I don't even know if it's possible to win in the EC and be down by 10,000,000 votes

You know, Trump probably would like Hillary to win back now that he know what he had to do as a president, and the crazy promises he had to keep. Also it would make him look like a hero in the eyes of his supporters.

The funny thing is that it was the democrats who started the Electoral College. This confirms that both southerners and democrats have been the country's biggest crybabies since the birth of the nation

Everyone understands how it works, retard.

The same fucking thing happened in 2000 and it ended with the most thoroughly discussed supreme Court case in American history.

What people are upset about is how this abortion of democracy will literally never be fixed.

>Democrats vs. Republicans: The election
Why is the aftermath always comedy gold? :D

It never worked, not even a little and not even briefly. If it produces a rough tie between popular vote and electoral votes the way it's done recently, it's by sheer accident. In the good old days you'd have stuff like the 1860 elections.

>Abraham Lincoln: 180/303 EC with 39.8% of popular vote
>John C. Breckinridge: 72/303 with 18.1%
>John Bell: 39/303, 12.6%
>Stephen A. Douglas: 12/303, 29.5%

So Abe gets ~59% of EV with 39.8% of PV, while Douglas takes ~4% of EV with 29.5% of PV. Fair and Balanced (tm)

If memory serves, there's a video on Youtube that worked out the minimum amount of popular votes required to win the presidency - as a percentage of course, since raw numbers depend too much on turnout. I think it was something like 35%.

Also, since turnout for this year's elections was only 53.9%, unused votes beat both Trump and HC. :^)

>Why is the aftermath always comedy gold? :D
You have the easily triggered leftists and the easily triggered dixiefags

>What people are upset about is how this abortion of democracy will literally never be fixed.
lel cry some more
minorities breeding like rabbits in New York and California doesn't give them a right to decide the future of people in Nebraska and Missouri
If you can't win with an absolutely guaranteed 84 electoral votes from both of them maybe you should stop running shit candidates that can actually appeal to people beyond minority pandering and appealing to urban tumblr sensibilities

Correction, you can win with 22%. youtube.com/watch?v=7wC42HgLA4k#t=4m17s

Don't worry Nigel, we will just start being like rabbits in Nebraska and Missouri then since you whitebois are to busy masturbating to anime to actually leave your basement and fuck women.

If you subtract the illegals who were told to vote because they'd get amnesty afterwards, he still won the popular vote too.

>we will just start being like rabbits in Nebraska and Missouri then
Sure you will, how's that plummeting birthrate working out?

>faithless is what they're supposed to be when things go wrong.
No, it was. Past tense. This isn't a thing anymore.
Why do I have to explain this to an american.
What is left is the state system which allows for small states to have a say and not just big cities on the coasts.

Also:
>Trump is an idiot
kys

> My source for illegals voting comes from a tweet highlighted in a 500 word article on Breitbart by a guy caught up in a corruption scandal and who can't explain how he got his figure in detail

Its no surprise to me that flyovers that live on government subsidized welfare systems also demand that their votes be subsidized.

Also when they would in fact go through with not electing Trump, Hillary wouldn't be president, it would be decided by the republican congress.
Which, guess what, will vote for Trump.

I heard you can vote in US without bringing passport (or id, or whatever you use there) with you. You can just say, my name is John Smith, I live on Cucky Street.
And you can order vote ballots by email without any docs, and not only for yourself.
Is this true?

Don't really care what you think, show some respect for the country that took you in instead of whining like the arrogant little beaner fucktard you are.

If Mexicans knew how to run a country you wouldn't have to leave it to find some other country to ruin.

>t.pedro

who are you quoting?

Beaners are arrogant and incredibly entitled.
Don't bother.

>Constitutional meaning changes over time
>Valid conservative viewpoint