On The Dividing Spencer Question

Look, pre Reddit invasion, Sup Forums has always been a mix of edgelords, libertarians, race realists, and a group of people somewhere in between the "democrats are the real racists" anti PC fags and legitimate race realists, That last group I would bet made up the biggest portion of the user base. They might not fully embrace race realist ideals but they were sympathetic to us because we were always shut out and demonized by the same people they were, and they also liked to be edgy.

But even a lot us actual race realists hate Richard Spencer's autistic twist on the ideology, and even more autistic method of communicating it.

So while there are some recent reddit cucks revealing themselves here, don't think that's where all criticism stems from. A lot of it comes from those in-between fags who don't like Spencer's autisticness, and bastardization of Sup Forums culture from the alt-right, and also from race realists who think he's hurting the cause.

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Uh-oh, Sup Forums. You better not insult Richard Spencer, or confirmed Spencer butthole licker Murdoch Murdoch will make an ebin meme face video about you!

who cares about those fags?

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fuck off faggots

I don't understand his proposal for a "peaceful ethnic cleansing"

There are other reasons to dislike Spencer.

Thank you for distinguishing that group in between. A lot of people are saying Sup Forums is filled with Paul Joseph Watsons on one side and Richard Spencer's on the other, but yeah, I think there is that in between group, too.

It's probably even more nuanced than that but this is still a lot more accurate than what I've been seeing reported in the discussions.

≥implying Greece isn't European

And does he actually think irish and czechs are equal to the swedes and the danes?

imo if the huffington post and CNN can shame you into turning on the alt right over that then you were never one of us to begin with, you can fuck off to leddit where you belong

Fuck off you fucking cucks.

These kinds of events are good for Sup Forums. A lot of the idiots will leave when they realize most of us are real racists. I'm sick of them shitting up the board with their stupid pearl clutching about every damn thing.

Threadly reminder not to fall for the current coordinated demoralization effort.

Sage & hide.
Sage & hide.

Guy was literally who till the other day, stop letting it disrupt from important Sup Forums operations.

This. And his pan-European idea is autistic as fuck.

But also his take on American history and the conservative movement in general is so shilly.

America is not a failed experiment. There was something distinct about the landscape (not magic but distinct), and the framework provided by the constitution that led to a greater nation than all other white nations. Sure blacks can't be a part of it, but that's only a recent amendment.

I also wouldn't say the conservative movement in general was a negative one, or that there's nothing left to conserve. And the idea that we need our own parallel to the leftist hippie utopia makes me want to ree.


Most of all though, I don't like the way he takes shitty diareah of Sup Forums and puts that stuff in his official outlets. That stuff should stay here, and a spokesman for our cause should not be PUBLICLY engaging in it. It has it's place but not from someone who should be behaving on a more respectable manner.

I'm so fucking sick of these Spencer threads
Fuck off and kill yourself

>Look, pre Reddit invasion, Sup Forums has always been a mix of edgelords, libertarians, race realists, and a group of people somewhere in between the "democrats are the real racists" anti PC fags and legitimate race realists,

Yeah and?

>That last group I would bet made up the biggest portion of the user base. They might not fully embrace race realist ideals but they were sympathetic to us because we were always shut out and demonized by the same people they were, and they also liked to be edgy.

Yeah and?

>But even a lot us actual race realists hate Richard Spencer's autistic twist on the ideology, and even more autistic method of communicating it.

I think it could be better but he's out there, setting up conferences, moving the Overton Window to the Right.

>So while there are some recent reddit cucks revealing themselves here, don't think that's where all criticism stems from. A lot of it comes from those in-between fags who don't like Spencer's autisticness, and bastardization of Sup Forums culture from the alt-right, and also from race realists who think he's hurting the cause.


He's plastered all over the news. This is not a failure. This is a success.

The alt-right is retarded. If you don't see the problems with his take on race realism and politics than you are useless.

t. a race realist

Kek, Weaboo Murdoch is here

>alt-right
No such thing

>yeah and?

And nothing, really. He's just clarifying what has been misrepresented on this board recently.

If you think Spencer is good for our movement than you are not an intelligent person.

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DID YOU KNOW... I spend little no time thinking about race, and my life seems to continue just fine. How is this Sup Forums???

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>D&C and "who cares" posts

Hey Schlomo.

Ze electoral votes, Donald. Hand zem over

1. the left made up the term "alt-right" to smear anyone who disagrees with them on the internet

2. We troll the idiot media and DNC into thinking it is a real thing

3. media picks up on it Idiot ADL calls Pepe a symbol of hate, idiot Clinton talks about Pepe in a speech

4.all the chans laugh

5. idiot stormfags think "alt-right" is an actual thing and start calling themselves "alt-right"

6.faggots and CTR shills go back to step 1.

retards

Maybe you live in a majority white neighborhood?

Jews are really doing a number on Sup Forums

Did you guys ever think they would like us?

We expose the truth about the 'holocaust' on an hourly basis.

I really could not care less what the jew media has to say. Also, as far as Trump goes... they're no differentiating between "campaign rhetoric" and what they're actually going to do, that is classic establishment cuck speak and broken promises

By taking the establishment side you're basically cucking yourself.

fuck off murdoch you take 4 weeks to make a shitty cringe-worthy cartoon that lasts 2 minutes, kys

It's not about YOUR life, you shortsighted nigger.

It's about the life of your children and grandchildren.

What kind of world are you going to leave them?

I do not. Where I live it's about 30% black and about 10% a mix of other non-white races. And you wouldn't believe it... nobody seems to care. And we all do fine. It's almost like the internet is a reality distortion field that leads to unhealthy escapism through imaginary problems and solutions.

>He's plastered all over the news. This is not a failure. This is a success.
He's making everyone look bad desu

>"who cares"
just sick of so many spencer threads
>"d&c"
nope, just acknowledging that Irish have lower IQs than Danes. doesn't mean i want them to fight against each other

anyway, make sure to shove in as many Sup Forums memes as you can into your next shitty video, gotta show that you're hip and with it after all.

WTF I hate Trump Now
WTF I love Nazis Now

Maybe it's fine for you but it's not fine for most people, whether they realize it or not. No one said there aren't exceptions, though.

an imaginary movement is assigned a figurehead by the media and somehow his supporters are all over Sup Forums

I don't think I have it any better or worse than my ancestors, and in that time our society has become much more diverse. This narrative is just stupid. Yes, there are a handful poor neighborhoods/regions in this country where crime is high. It's easy to avoid and such places have always - ALWAYS - existed.

>he unironically thinks I'm Murdoch just because I replied to a Murdoch post

Talk about being retarded

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>muh race doesn't exist
>muh kangz
>muh blacks really did build dem pyramids

jst stop nu/pol/ it's embarrassing

You guys never have any evidence for this. Just random, misconstrued studies connected by arbitrary lines. Sup Forums disgusts me.

>he can't into bantz
Do you think every 't. achmed' poster actually believes he's talking to a mozzlem too?

>conflating race realists with white supremacists and nazi larpers

White supremacists and nazi larpers are a small minority of which spencer is a part of.

This would be one of the reddit invaders OP pointed out.

You distract from that fact that there legitimate Sup Forumsacks who have gripes with Spencer. It just leads to polarized debate about how "you're a reddit cuck" or stormfag without any of the nuance that he described.

As far as the alt-right goes, it was a real thing to describe racial identity, white interests and race realism but it was a really stupid name on Spencer's part, because there are so many alternative rights to the the mainstream republican neo-con establishment. It was bound to lead to confusion at some point.

>I don't think I have it any better or worse than my ancestors, and in that time our society has become much more diverse.

You're an idiot if you don't see the danger in giving political power to people who have an interest in working against you.

Identity politics is real. It exists in every country.
In all but white countries, racial minorities are treated as second class citizens. If the US ceases to be a white country, you can bet your ass that will hold true here.

The majority of people on Sup Forums never publically talk about what they're really thinking.

The majority of niggers that you meet in the street aren't going to tell you what they're really thinking.

They have a group identity that is in direct opposition to you and your offspring. When they gain enough political power, they're going to be able to act on that inclination, and at that point, there will be no way to go back.

The anti sjw warrior group is reddit. They are all faggots that thought they were part of the group just because they didn't like the same things.

>damage control
kek

Is Spencer actually a White Supremacist?
Does he genuinely believe whites are the best?

And is he an actual Nazi? Does he advocate extermination?

He didn't say anything like that you shill he was just describing the different group on this board that existed before the reddit invasion.

Nice strawman

Why does nu/pol/ claim black people built the pyramids? Why do they claim black people were kangz? Why do they claim race doesn't exist?

This election has taken a toll on you nu/pol you aren't thinking clearly. You need to take nap, I am worried for you

All this pro-Kanz anti-Spencer spam is unsettling. Pls get well nu/pol/

yeah 2bh
and who cares posts wasn't accurate, just memeing
and not tired of spencer posts
but no divide and conquer 2bh
gotta go now

He's not a larper, but he is a white supremacist who believes we can actually deport all non-whites one day if white people would just hear his message.

> If the US ceases to be a white country, you can bet your ass that will hold true here.

Nope, because there'll be so much race mixing that only the most paranoid and deranged whites won't fit in.

>In all but white countries, racial minorities are treated as second class citizens. If the US ceases to be a white country, you can bet your ass that will hold true here.

The US has the top economy because it doesn't follow antiquated visions of social orders. It's chaotic and ever-evolving. Your solution to make the U.S. better is to turn it into a white version of dysfunctional third world countries.

Trump's idea for protectionist trade policies has some merit - protect your country's economic interests. Your racial obsession is just dumb and misses the point.

DOes he belives whites are the top of the human species, or does he just want to deport people?
Deporting people so you can live by yourself doesn't mean you're a white supremacist

Still not realistic though

What's funny is most anti-SJW redditors really only hTe the most clownish form of feminism. They still seriously think the media is pro-white and all that shit. They're still SJWs.

The people OP described, the in-betweeners, don't fit this description, and are sympathetic to our views. I wouldn't call those redditors. I would say they go beyond Cernovich even.

really makes you think

>either you're for Spencer's retarded ideas or you're /nu/pol.

Eat a dick faggot. A lot of race realists hate Spencer for good reason.

I do whenever I post that. Where the fuck do you think you are, you're still not getting it mr crabss

>Nope, because there'll be so much race mixing that only the most paranoid and deranged whites won't fit in.

Your family, if they're white, is among the most likely groups that will be shit on in the future.

Your answer is "fuck them, they better marry a nigger then". Great.

>The US has the top economy because it doesn't follow antiquated visions of social orders.

No... The US has the top economy because european countries were all destroyed during WWII and US was in prime position to profit from it.

>Your racial obsession is just dumb and misses the point.
It's just a reality of the world. It's true in every nonwhite country. You're willfully blind. Racial tensions exist everywhere.

White nationalist then. I have no problem with people believing white people are the best on average because they are. Extrapolating that into "we need total separatism" is retarded though and like you said not even remotely realistic.

Jared Taylor>>>>>>>>>>>>>Richard Spencer.

So of course he's the one the media gives attention to.

And then faggots here think if you insult anyone in the movement you must be a reddit migrant.

It's annoying.

>white nationalism then
don't be so careless, it's an important distinction

but we agree, mass deportations of all non whites seems unlikely

not really
Theres nothing negative about anything he did, other than the media bullshitting/lies.

I don't like spencer because he's fucking cringe inducing. 1599 and all that but god damn is he autistic, hiding your powerlevel is one of the most important things you can do and he goes out of his way to not do so.

>White Supremacist
Yes he is, but more than anything he's an Identitarian, as in he wants to enact pro-white policies regardless of bullshit like "superiority".

>is he an actual Nazi?
No.

>Does he advocate extermination?
No. He advocates mass deportations. So basically the same thing as Trump, just on racial basis and not the legal vs illegal basis.

>Your family, if they're white, is among the most likely groups that will be shit on in the future.

That's an unfounded fear. You have no evidence, besides a few scary people that've made comments online.
> The US has the top economy because european countries were all destroyed during WWII and US was in prime position to profit from it.

That's a meme, sir. Yes, it helped. But America was already kicking ass by the late 1800s. The Great Depression was horrible growth pang that we muscled through.

> Racial tensions exist everywhere.
How often do you experience these tensions in your real life vs. what you vicariously experience through the media? It's the media fueling all of this for ratings.

No the inbetweeners he describes perfectly encapsulates redditors. You know the kind. They bitch and moan about feminism but still think women deserve equal rights. They bitch about movements like blm but still think racists are illogical idiots. The people who do that shit are redditors. You are a redditor. I can hear it in your voice and see it on your faggot face. You cancerous fucks at reddit have been invading for a long long time now and your egotistical self esteem will always prevent you from understanding or fitting in.
You were never "one of us" You will never be one of us because us does not exist. Now go shit up voat or something and stop coming here.

Jared Taylor is a more eloquent speaker, but he doesn't name the Jew. Spencer does.

Anyway those two are like the best buddies from their AmRen years so this is pointless anyway.

Let me fix that persons post.
Either you don't give a shit about spencer and the "alt right" or you're nu/pol/

Why the fuck are you autistics making a big deal out of this shit? Spencer gave a conference in front of 300 Sup Forums shits, got a little too hyped and started LARPing around on stage while fucking Mike Enoch started throwing nazi salutes and some infiltrator leaked it.

Why do you give a shit? Afraid it's gonna make Trump look bad? Like the David Duke thing did? Fuck off.

Or do you just not like the media attention because suddenly what you do is not just autistic LARPing on an image board but something real and you're too much of a pussy to stand up for your believes?
This shit was not meant to be public.

OP is not a faggot.
I'm one of those kind of people you are talking about. I'm an old fag who starting visiting /new/ because of the 08 election.
(For the record it was libertarian back then. Hitler and nazis were posted a lot but just because we were preironic edgelords.)
The Conspiracy theorists were always here, there influence combined with obama's race baiting is what began redpilling in this board en masse.
Stormfags have always been here too, but their brand of fascism is cringe as fuck and it wasn't until the rise of sjws during gayer gate that we accepted them as part of the community.
Sup Forums is now a nationalist/fascist board. But many are still sceptical about natsoc.
It's not that we question race realism, hell we have nigger hate threads daily.
It's just that nazis havnt been the same since the war.
And while neonazis make great backwoods compounds, they as a movement will never gain the traction necessary to be a viable political force.
Yes the alt right exists, whether we like it or not.
Yes Spencer and his kind are part of it, whether we like it or not
No Spencer is not controlled opposition.
But claiming ownership of the alt right (the group that just showed itself powerful enough to decide the president of the United states) just deligitimizes us, fractures us, and plays right into the globalists hands.
He is just trying to legitimize his Autistic brand of fascism, just like Stormfags have always tried to do, but in the process he is destroying the credibility of the alt right as a whole.

Then replace him you little kike dicksucker. You don't shit on something that's working. He's out in Washington while you were jerking off to cuck porn.

Its really not that unrealistic senpai. It would take 6 years tops to deport all the spics niggers and gooks from america. It would take 10 years to kill them all.

>That's an unfounded fear. You have no evidence, besides a few scary people that've made comments online.

Like I said, look around the world. It's obvious that people have a preference for forwarding the interests of their race.

The unfounded (insane) idea is that for some reason this instinct towards racial preference will disappear in the future.

>The Great Depression was horrible growth pang that we muscled through.

Pure speculation and wishful thinking.

>It's the media fueling all of this for ratings.
Suppose you're correct (you're not). If it's so easy to fuel them, why would they not be fueled in the future?

There is no alt right shill.
It's just a label the media is using to pigeonhole trump supporters as nazis.

Thy don't butch and moan about racism, besides racism toward whites.

They flirt with our ideals and are sympathetic to them without maybe fully embracing them.

Nice D&C

The U.S. economy was strong well before ww2

wont happen lebbit friend

TRS is /pol and Sup Forums is TRS fuckloads of interchangeable people browse here and there im pretty damn sure the founders are from here as well dumbass

Please leave the house.

>a self declared leader of the alt-right (for the 18th time)
>come forth and says racist shit
>this time the MSM are all over it like vultures
>now alex jones comes out and believe this shit

all happened in 2 days

>That's an unfounded fear. You have no evidence

see: Every fucking place on the planet whites turned into powerless minorities
Fucking liar
Yea maybe if you are a jew, or a rich business owner you'll be ok.
But if you are a middle class/poor-ish white you will be up shit creek unable to buy entry into the shrinking number of first world countries.

>How often do you experience these tensions in your real life
Everyday.

wanting a 60% face heritage
His isn't perfect but it is so far the best alternative

It's impossible to maintain Sup Forums's identity and to speak the truth about this cucked society while simultaneously fitting into and being accepted by this cucked society. So stop trying, it's a pointless effort, you might as well become a we wuz transethnic genderqueer liberal if you want the media to be happy with you

Spencer isn't perfect, but I will side with him over establishment republicans etc and the media

This. I wouldn't even say most redditor are the "democrats are the real racists" types, and they're certainly not that in between that OP described.

>Spencer isn't perfect, but I will side with him over establishment republicans etc and the media

False dichotomy

Dude we had David Duke running and these fags were bitching that he was to hardcore so must be a shill. They're fucking idiots.

I just want to see his cock

>We expose the truth about the 'holocaust' on an hourly basis.
Apparently not often enough. We have The_Donald fags who think showing an inch of racism is the gravest sin imaginable. They're cut from the same cloth as ((Lauren Southern)) and ((Milo))

Relax, guy. They'd have to form a coalition and get politically involved. Not that it isn't a problem, just that Mexicans, niggers, Asians, and Muslims aren't going to band together. They hate each other.

Majority minority isn't when the other shoe drops. It's when one particular minority group becomes the majority that were really fucked.

He really does seem like Murdoch Murdoch come to life. Can someone plz make a side by side video comparing the two speaking?

Most race realists here don't care about the media being happy, but not do they think we should alienate them as much as possible like Spencer does.

>muh spencer said edgy shit

It's not, you want someone the media will like, you want a jew approved message from Sup Forums ? It's impossible. Meanwhile Trump is moving towards the establishment, so what will be left? You want to compromise Sup Forums's message so there will be nothing left? I could see not liking the attention but that's about it , otherwise you're siding with CTR / mainstream republicans and are a jewified bastardization of Sup Forums

>76 views
is that a lot for them? no idea how their forum works

pol was originally stormfront you fucking idiots

gas the kikes, race war now

>They'd have to form a coalition and get politically involved.

They are. Have you not seen the strong anti-white sentiments that have been building in society?

Where do you think that's coming from exactly?

Whites are becoming hated precisely because they have political power.

>either you're for Spencer's retarded ideas or you're /nu/pol.
>Spencer coined we wuz kangz
>Spencer was the originator of all the information around white egyptians
Lol a triggered nigger here someone call Ben Garrison

>they flirt with our ideals
No they don't. At all. For example if someone hated niggers but still went off race mixed with an Asian.
They are a traitor. They are not one of us. They never have been. These people do not flirt with our cause they simply hate the extreme opposition. They are allies only in fighting extreme leftism. Once extreme leftism is defeated they will go back to bitching at the government for not giving them gibs.
Do you not understand? They are moderates. They are not from Sup Forums. They are from reddit or worse. These moderate lefties think they are better than extremist lefties but they aren't all that much better. They are here purely to stroke their own ego. They are redditors.
Now fuck off newfag. and make a post again for the next 2 years.