I need muh guns to defend myself in the case of an armed attacker

>I need muh guns to defend myself in the case of an armed attacker

What do americans mean by this?

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We've had this thread a million times and it goes the same every time, America has more murders because it has more niggers, even a cursory analysis of the racial breakdown of american crime rates makes this abundantly clear.

>RUSSIA — No data
really makes you think huh

>shitaly

Do they count earthquakes as homicides lmao

Blacks are a minority in the USA. Not a valid argument when your rates are at least 4x higher than anyone else.

Doesn't this list count suicides which make up most of them?

>comparing white countries to a country with 60% whites and a whole lot of niggers

How many times have Americans overthrown their governments with the use of weapons?
Some food for your thought...

Why are you dissing American culture?

hmm?

WRONG ASSHOLE.

If it were only white Americans our crime rate would be lower than Canada's. Fuck off.

>not a avoid argument

They account for half our goddamn murders

Canada and UK have blacks too and their rates are the lowest.
Also Japan is not white.

1 in 30,000 people dying from guns in a year seems pretty damn low.

Also this chart is purposely misleading, the title states homicides implying it is murders in general but the Y axis is labeled as gun related homicides Why does no one ever post a chart of just homicides, wouldn't they provide a better argument that guns cause more homicides instead of more gunmicides which is a given

Canada and UK have few blacks and are much more white than America is

Japanese are as docile if not more docile than whites are

If it was only white Canada, we'd be lower too

Why are you bringing in races into the discussion?
Black Americans are american too. So are hispanics and whites.
Other countries are not split down to their races so why should america be? They even had a black president.

>Other countries are not split down to their races

Most european nations are much more white then america is.

>gun homicides
>no data for Russia
I lol'd pretty hard.

Because it makes guns look worse than they actually are. If you track all homicides across the last 5 decades in America, U.K., and Australia, you'll see that Australia and UKs gun laws that they added didn't do jack shit to bring down homicides lower than they were before

>Cherry picking

>Logic is hard

>Why are you bringing in races into the discussion?

Because blacks are more violent than whites and America has more blacks than those other countries do.

Because 12% of the US population is doing most of the killing. Get it?

Liberals never stop to point out the fact that increasing population also increases the crime rate, not just the raw number of crimes.

It casts doubt on weapon availability being a causal factor in homicide rates. By the way here's something actually correlates with homicide unlike gun policy.

If I get a double I'll ask her out

OK but that doesn't help the argument. All Americans are citizens of the USA regardless of their race. You don't bring in employment rates or income or education level when confronted to stats that apply to the whole country. "Well you see Americans are low in this life expectancy but if you take out all the cigarette smokers and all women who have breast cancer then it gets lower". It makes no sense.

2.5 homicide deaths per 100k is still nigger tier.

We are no longer a G8 country, Vanya

Niggers shooting niggers with stolen Hi-Points, which they would still have after gun control.

They mean exactly that.

We tried once, but it ended in civil war.

>OK but that doesn't help the argument.

Yes it does. Most european nations have a lower violent crime rate because they have less niggers. Period. Within america, regional violent crime rates tightly correlate with how many non-whites live there, and this correlation is tighter than even that of economic status.

lel, that just makes it worse that guns are legal

I would truly love to see that chart after removing all black on black murders from the US.

Suddenly it'd be a whole lot less worth illustrating...

You're ignoring that our faggot SJW FBI classifies spics as white people.

They'll get the guns either way you fucking idiot. Just like they get crack and heroin despite the long standing federal ban.

That you should stick with pasta you fucking spaghetti nigger.

They formed ghettos and closed communities after they were freed of slavery.Living in closed communities and ghettos tends to lead to anti-social and violent behaviour.

> Canada have blacks too
So do horror movies. Tokens. My bet is that they're still doing an outstanding amount of crime compared to the pop ratio.

It doesn't make a difference.

>all americans are citizens of the usa regardless of their race
That was not always the case and it should have never been made the case.

We're separating white Americans from black Americans in this discussion because we are so vastly different from each other that we shouldn't be lumped together.

You cannot take the average between two diametrically opposed groups and expect your average to accurately reflect either side.

most are nigger on nigger homicides.

literally meaningless.

> Larger land mass/population and weak ass criminal justice system.
> "Guns are surely the issue."

I'm calling bait. CTR, pls go.

Let's make a racial breakdown for all countries then kek
The US thinks they are the only country with minorities.

This looks incredibly reliable when russia has no data LMAO.

Most of those homicides are committed by niggers. We have a nigger problem, not a gun problem.

No other postindustrial nation comes even close to the volume or proportion

Meanwhile in Mexico

It's the blacks that commit mkst of the murders. If that study ignored cities like camden and chicago I'm sure that our number would drop

HOW a person is killed is not as important as THAT they are killed.

oy vey

>What do americans mean by this?
nigger riots

>Blacks are a minority in the USA. Not a valid argument when your rates are at least 4x higher than anyone else.
Source: FBI.gov
Expanded Homicide Data Table 3
Murder Offenders by Age, Sex, and Race, 2011
White 4,729
Black 5,486
Other 256
Unknown 4077

Table 43a
Arrest by Race, 2011
Robbery
White 35,443
Black 45,827
American Indian or Alaskan Native 619
Asian or Pacific Islander 547

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6
Murder
Race, Ethnicity, and Sex of Victim by Race, Ethnicity, and Sex of Offender, 2013

Race of victim
White: 3005
Black or African American: 2491
Other race: 159

Race of offender (white victims)
White: 2509
Black or African American: 189
Other race: 32

Race of offender (black victims)
White: 409
Black or African American: 2245
Other race: 27

It's because we have the longest history of splitting the lower class whites off by telling them 'just support the rich, and they'll make sure the niggers are below you'.

niggers and wetbacks

The point is that they are all Americans.
You can't do laws specifically for one race.
What do you say of children born to a black man and a white woman?
Are they black or white? Do their crimes go under the "black" or "white"? Who decides?

Whoever made that graph needs to be shot

And you seem to be ignoring the fact that countries like France, UK, Germany aren't 100% white.

You don't get to do that, why should anyone ignore portions of a country?
Are Camden and Chicago not in America?
Yes? Then they count.

>The US thinks they are the only country with minorities.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Portugal
>In 1992, 1.3% of the population was foreign, by 2007 the number had grown to 4.1% or 435,736 people
you literally have 4%, probably 6% by now, foreigners in your country you retard.

> HOW a person is killed is not as important as that they ARE killed.
I liked the sentence, but focusing on the wrong word annoys me.

The graph doesn't mention race anywhere. There is no point in bringing that up.
All americans are americans regardless of race.

Now show the graph that shows niggers per 100k people in g8 countries.

It means that they rather shoot an intruder than to depend on the police arriving fast enough.

This said, people that do not own arms are literally peasants.

If you really like being protected like cattle so much sell yourself so some slaver.

80%, 85%, and 90% white respectively. Much greater than America's 60%. Additionally, most of the UK's non-whites are migrant workers, and the worst, most violent parts of the UK, France, and Germany, are those in which non-whites reside in high concentration.

Why do Asians have a lower crime rate than whites in the US then?

oh god you're a retard
It reads : # of gun-related homicides per 100,000 people

It doesn't matter wether there are 100,000 people or 2 billions faggot

>you can't do laws specifically for one race
Yes you can.
>what do you say of children born to a black man and a white woman?
Treat them like blacks. It's what we did before and it discourages racemixing.
>who decides
The master race decides.

>muh niggers

no true scotsman fallacy

Probably because they aren't driven mad by proximity to fucking niggers

A nigger literally is not a scotsman.

>I'm a huge faggot please rape my face
What did OP mean by this?

Because Asians are rich. Violence and anti-social behaviour is caused by being poor not by having a tan skin.

No you can't it's literally racism at its finest form.
Laws are universal and can't target any specific race.

it shouldn't, it specifies homicide

ones that use sneaky language like "deaths from firearms" usually include suicides

my guns dindu nuthin

OP is a retarded faggot. Stick to cookjng spaghetti mario

rly maeks u tink, huh?

Yes, and our niggers are as bad as yours.

You get 2.5 for whites only which is clearly above France, Germany, Spain and Portugal when we don't take into account minorities.

White crime in Europe is close to Japanese levels.

12% is actually all black people, most of these crimes are committed by black MEN so the real figure is around 6%.

The United States will never be a truly civilized nation until it gets its gun problem under control. Let me be blunt: American gun fanatics are mentally ill and this is a major sociopathic problem for the American society and people. The fact that so many of the most virulently ill people can be found in the most racist of the states is also a disturbing and instructive indication of the pathology behind this particular sickness. However, this is a disease that crosses the racial lines of the US, as its prevalence across the entire nation indicates. Gun owners deserve to be vilified and denigrated. They are all complicit in the horrendous death toll and damage that guns to the American people every year. Until they admit that they have a very serious problem, they will never be cured of the disease.

No it isn't.
The no true Scotsman fallacy is based on setting arbitrary lines for who is and who is not a Scotsman to the point that the identity of being Scottish becomes more of an ideal than a reality.

Americans are by no means setting arbitrary lines by race because our country has divided itself on race for its entire history.

A true American in this scenario only needs to be white.

I have the coolest ID in this thread, btw

>ZEUTS

What would it look like if every one was female?
What if everyone was male?

Cherrypicking statistics and creating artificial situations is what realy fires up my neurons

they mean:
>I'm prepared to allow for the fact that my toddler might shoot himself in the face so that I can LARP.

>it's literally racism at its finest form
I'm well aware. Laws are capable of being racist if the people are racist.
You can have universal laws, but you don't have to.

nice pasta

Whoever would write this seriously would be right to be concerned until they realized the fact that gun owners just want to be left alone on and with their own property.

>Yes, and our niggers are as bad as yours.
you dont even have niggers.

you have a few jungle monkeys which don't even compare to niggers.

> japan
> 0
I guess they're all busy comitting suicide

You're right, Hispanics kill a good number of people too

That's where you stop living in a democracy and start living in a nazi fascist state

>Oh man, he fell off a building onto a pile of knives that have all gone missing
>I'm sure it has nothing to do with the Yakuza
>Suicide?
>Suicide

>You get 2.5 for whites

This includes hispanic "whites"

The correct way to ask that question is:
How many times has the government disarmed the armed populace?

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America has way more diverse population than most, maybe all those countries. Russia would be close. America also has the Bill of Rights protecting citizens rights to bear arms to prevent government oppression. Those other G8 countries, outside of 'No Data's Russia all have wayyy tighter gun laws. On top of this, the US has a total population more than double the next closest G8 country.

So yes, while the per capita is higher, we have a lot more fucking people with a lot more guns (most heavily armed society in the world, per capita), and a more diverse national identity. Frankly, that it's that low despite all the violent gang bangers, is incredible. Also look into correlations between poverty, wealth disparity, opportunity and gun ownership. It's not the people at the top of the wealth pyramid shooting each other, that's for sure.

Say Italy, how many blacks and Hispanics do you have killing each other over there?