Putin gets it. Why does it seem that everyone of minority gets special treatment just because they are used to different laws, beliefs and customes.
If I a somewhat privileged white male travelled to America and started having sex with 16 y.o's (which is legal in my country), I would be arrested.
But what if an ethnic did it its all g.
What's up with the world pol?
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The thing is, Russia has a well-developed security apparatus that has been suppressing ethnic dissent going back to at least Ivan the Terrible. Most other countries don't have that because they never needed it.
Another of Putin-let speeches that never happened ever.
How does Russia even work considering you got +100 different ethnicities living in the area?
You'd think there would be major chimpouts all over the place (other than some Chechens) but no, Kalmykian mongols live peacefully, Udmurts live peacefully, Siberian natives mind their own lives.
Asians are not niggers.
what he really said
>On the whole, the adaptation of guest workers is a separate and comprehensive issue. We must create the conditions for immigrants to normally integrate into our society, learn Russian and, of course, respect our culture and traditions and abide by Russian law. In this regard, I believe that the decision to make learning the Russian language compulsory and administer exams is well grounded. To do so, we will need to carry out major organisational work and introduce corresponding legislative amendments. I'd like to ask the Federal Migration Service and other departments to submit specific proposals to the government. These proposals should be openly discussed with ethnic minorities as well as public and religious organisations. This should be mandatory for all guest workers regardless of their future employment.
Because they're treated truly equally as everyone else as every other citizen and not constantly told they're special and need special treatment as in EU, US.
I had tatars and kalmiks, komi and iakuts, jews and mordva and others in my classes in school and uni and I can't remember a single argument or xenophobic thing that was said to either of them. The chances are people wouldn't even notice you're native siberian or volga tatar if you won't explicitly tell them.
They all speak perfect russian, live according to our laws and respect our culture as well as we respect theirs.
That sounds a helluva a lot different than what OP posted. It sounds like Putin wants easier assimilation with minority groups. OP's quote makes it seem like Putin is some kind of anti-SJW being condescending towards minorities.
fucking racist
Russia, Poland, Czech Republic, Japan
This is why I respect these countries
It's almost as if we leave in an age when in most of the modern world news where replaced by propaganda and reality with opinion.
That's a fake citation though. He didn't say this.
The forcible deportation of the Crimean Tatars from Crimea was ordered by Joseph Stalin as a form of collective punishment under accusations of collaborating with the Nazi occupation regime in Taurida Subdistrict during 1942–1943. The state-organized removal is known as the Sürgünlik in Crimean Tatar. A total of more than 230,000 people were deported, mostly to the Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic. This included the entire ethnic Crimean Tatar population, at the time about a fifth of the total population of the Crimean Peninsula, as well as smaller numbers of ethnic Greeks and Bulgarians. A large number of deportees (more than 100,000 according to a 1960s survey by Crimean Tatar activists) died from starvation or disease as a direct result of deportation.
I like this meme where Russia is the saviour of the white race, meanwhile it's illegal to insult Islam.
I know our assimilation policies sometimes get out of line. But come the fuck on, do you bring up hitler every time you discuss Germany?
The user you are responding to speaks the truth, we really do believe in ethnic equality and cultural assimilation. Rather then multiculturalism model of the west.
Wtf Occupy Democrat is now suddenly re- well never mind.
The Western media rarely covers Russian politics except when it makes Russia look bad, and if it doesn't make them look bad, they'll make it make them look bad.
Putin just wants migrants to do what they should, to do what immigrants to the U.S did a century ago: assimilate peacefully, obey the law, learn the language, be productive, pay taxes.
That's literally it.
Putin is a pretty reasonable guy. The U.S and NATO...or, more accurately, the U.S *via* NATO, has been aggressive towards the Russian Federation for years now. The U.S is the most hyper aggressive nation in the world, but Russia and Putin get a bad rap for invading Ukraine, which they did because Soros funded a coup against a legitimately elected President there.
What is your point here? Everyone in USSR suffered from the communist regime. Russians, ukrainians, jews. tatars everyone was tortured and repressed.
Looking at the entire period of Stalin's rule, one can list: Poles (1939–1941 and 1944–1945), Romanians (1941 and 1944–1953), Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians (1941 and 1945–1949), Volga Germans (1941–1945), Ingrian Finns (1929–1931 and 1935–1939), Finnish people in Karelia (1940–1941, 1944), Crimean Tatars, Crimean Greeks (1944) and Caucasus Greeks (1949–50),[12] Kalmyks, Balkars, Karachays, Meskhetian Turks, Karapapaks, Far East Koreans (1937), Chechens and Ingushs (1944). Shortly before, during and immediately after World War II, Stalin conducted a series of deportations on a huge scale which profoundly affected the ethnic map of the Soviet Union. It is estimated that between 1941 and 1949 nearly 3.3 million were deported to Siberia and the Central Asian republics. By some estimates up to 43% of the resettled population died of diseases and malnutrition
Large numbers of kulaks regardless of their nationality were resettled to Siberia and Central Asia. According to data from Soviet archives, which were published in 1990, 1,803,392 people were sent to labor colonies and camps in 1930 and 1931. Books say that 1,317,022 reached the destination. Deportations on a smaller scale continued after 1931. The reported number of kulaks and their relatives who had died in labour colonies from 1932 to 1940 was 389,521
>kulaks
Good goy, how dare you own property. Property must only be owned by the (((state))).
>Mohammed
>German poster
MFW, a muslim German trying to call a white Autralian hes racist.
Just nuke Europe already
May 1951 Japanese, Koreans
April 1951 Jehovah's Witnesses
March 1951 Basmachis
July 1949 – May 1952 Kulaks
May–June 1949 Armenians, Turks, Greeks
March 1949 Kulaks
1948—1951 Azeris
October 1948 Kulaks
June 1948 Greeks, Armenians
May 1948 Kulaks
1945–1950 Germans
December 1944 Members of the Volksdeutsche families
November 1944 Lazes and other inhabitants of the border zone
November 1944 Meskhetian Turks, Kurds, Hamshenis, Karapapaks
I get that you are baiting friend, but feel obliged to respond. First:
>Large numbers of kulaks regardless of their nationality were resettled
Second, and far more important:
Dozens of millions starved to death because of this idiotic decision. Ukraine took the brunt of it, but it was all over. I'd say if you want to paint russians Ebil, you should be talking about this and not some some 3 million people who froze in siberia.
This, again, does not address my point that it was 50 years ago and the man who ordered all of it was georgian.
August–September 1944 Poles
1921 Cossacks, Semirechye Cossacks
April 1920 Cossacks, Terek Cossacks
1933 Nomadic Kazakhs
February–May 1935 Ingrian Finns
February–March 1935 Germans, Poles
May 1935 Germans, Poles
July 1937 Kurds
September–October 1937 Koreans
September–October 1937 Chinese, Harbin Russians
1938 Persian Jews
January 1938 Azeris, Persians, Kurds, Assyrians
July 1940 "Foreigners" / "Other ethnicities" - Kola Norwegians, Lithuanians & Latvians
You are truly retarded or a troll.
Either way you don't deserve that (you) I'm giving you.
>ifunny.co
>citation
In the 1640s the Yakuts were subjected to massacres during the Russian advance into their land near the Lena river, and on Kamchatka in the 1690s the Koryak, Kamchadals, and Chukchi were also subjected to massacres by the Russians
At the hands of people like Vasilii Poyarkov in 1645 and Yerofei Khabarov in 1650 some peoples like the Daur were slaughtered by the Russians to the extent that it is considered genocide
The Russian Cossacks also faced fierce resistance and were forced to give up when trying unsuccessfully to wipe out the Chukchi through genocide in 1729, 1730-1, and 1744-7.[
A genocide of the Chukchis and Koraks was ordered by Empress Elizabeth in 1742 to totally expel them from their native lands and erase their culture through war.
Kamchatka today is European in demographics and culture with only 2.5% of it being native, around 10,000 from a previous number of 150,000, due to the mass slaughters by the Cossacks after its annexation in 1697 of the Itelmen and Koryaks throughout the first decades of Russian rule
90% of the Kamchadals and half of the Vogules were killed from the eighteenth to nineteenth centuries and the rapid genocide of the indigenous population led to entire ethnic groups being entirely wiped out, with around 12 exterminated groups which could be named by Nikolai Iadrintsev as of 1882.
>1640s
>1729
>Modern Russia
I see. Nice bait.
The Aleuts in the Aleutians were subjected to genocide and slavery by the Russians for the first 20 years of Russian rule, with the Aleut women and children captured by the Russians and Aleut men slaughtered
The indigenous peoples of these regions were targeted by the Czars and Soviet policies to change their way of life; the indigenous peoples' reindeer herds - which provide their food, clothing and income - were confiscated by the government, with the herds and wild game hunting rights given instead to the Russian citizens.
O it goes from 1600-1960 with genocide all the way.
The idea that russia is a happy multi ethic paradise is bullshit.
Circassians, the indigenous peoples of this region were cleansed from their homeland at the end of the Russo-Circassian War by victorious Russia. The expulsion was launched before the end of the war in 1864 and it was mostly completed by 1867. The peoples involved were mainly the Circassians (or Adyghe), Ubykhs, Chechens, Abkhaz, and Abaza
Again the soviet times were as cruel to russians as to everyone else. During the tzarist time until 1860 most of the slaves were ethnic russian working for the rich landowners.
You have no point. I was initially talking about our days not about red terror and not about tzarist time.
Anyway since your posts are luckily copypaste from some site and you literally have no point I'll refrain from answering you from now on.
You're being very inconvenient to the desired-prevailing narrative.
I'm starting to require primary sources, namely video, most of the time by now because of this. And even then, since I don't understand a single word of Russian, I'm trusting the guy who made the subtitles.
You have no idea how much irony for russians it is to see the policies that brought down USSR be implemented in the west. Sure our news aren't unbiased bastions of journalistic integrity, far from it. But there is something amusing when RT.com a self admitted "russian viewpoint" does more fact checks than CNN, FOX, and sometimes even BBC.
And gays were oppressed in the west forever, this must mean that they're oppressed in the current year too
>using liberal logic
The centuries of consistent activity impresses upon one the feeling that there is a predisposition toward carnage, ethnic eradication, and self-serving realpolitik.
Not dissimilar to the conduct of pre-industrialized Africa, desu
There isn't really any reason to conclude that it has ended, particularly in the face of Russia's ambitions toward Empire.
Who said that Russia was milticulti, potatonigger?
We allways were - adapt and don't chimp out or we'll exterminate you.
>You have no point.
I have a point. No othe nation has practiced genocide and ethnic cleansing to the extent of Russian speakers. Blaming stalin is a cop out. The czars had been doing it in the 19th, 18th, 17th centuries. These people may speak russian today but only because they were slaughtered. Russia is no multi ethic land of opportunity and equality. All the oligarchy are Russian. You can't even leave Ukraine or Georgia alone today or let the chetchens go their own way. It never stopped and never will. Russia from the Rus onward were a culture of slavery and extortion, genocide and barbarity.
>Who said that Russia was multiculti
>You're being very inconvenient to the desired-prevailing narrative.
Just can't listen to bullshit. The irony being the kgb hammered the American genocide of the Native Indians which is actually nothing compared to what they did in the Siberian conquest.
That dude from Ireland isn't Irish. I recognise that pattern he is a Lithuanian who works as a toilet technician in Ireland.
>RT.com
Raw bullshit and your domestic channels come across as almost north korean in their level of tinny shrill militarism.
Oh, I'm not criticizing; just pointing it out.
>don't chimp out or we'll exterminate you.
Been tried many a time. Never works. We are better and suffering and misery than you lot even.
Please note the dates in the frame. It ended in 1960 as the poster himself admitted. There probably are a couple unhappy events since then, but nothing on such scale.
Undertand that those were different times, those policies of genocide, turned into resettlement, and later into assimilation. While true that some of even our modern policies may seem intrusive beyound reason, they do create a more stable, more happy population, at the cost of some front loaded hurdles. And I'm not talking about the genocides now, but about our modern policies. Read up how minorities are treated in crimea and tell me we are monsters.
>That dude from Ireland isn't Irish. I recognise that pattern he is a Lithuanian who works as a toilet technician in Ireland.
Did the USSRleave you behind?
Were you and your mother not important enough to go on the truck with the KGB files.
I'm 100% Irish Roman Catholic.
Gives me a radar for self deceiving genocidal imperialist bastards.
>And so what? They adapted.
>Please note the dates in the frame. It ended in 1960 as the poster himself admitted. There probably are a couple unhappy events since then, but nothing on such scale.
>Undertand that those were different times, those policies of genocide, turned into resettlement, and later into assimilation. While true that some of even our modern policies may seem intrusive beyound reason, they do create a more stable, more happy population, at the cost of some front loaded hurdles. And I'm not talking about the genocides now, but about our modern policies. Read up how minorities are treated in crimea and tell me we are monsters.
Ahem Donetsk. Crimea. Georgia Chechnya
>Because they're treated truly equally as everyone else as every other citizen and not constantly told they're special and need special treatment as in EU, US.
>I had tatars and kalmiks, komi and iakuts, jews and mordva and others in my classes in school and uni and I can't remember a single argument or xenophobic thing that was said to either of them. The chances are people wouldn't even notice you're native siberian or volga tatar if you won't explicitly tell them.
>They all speak perfect russian, live according to our laws and respect our culture as well as we respect theirs.
Do I need to remind you of native americans or remind aussies about abos or you again about your slavery or britain about the opium wars in China or japs about China as well?
Every relevant country had a dark period in it's existence. I can't accept your Soviet narrative as a racial genocide. Millions of ethnic russians were captured tortured and killed, including members of my own family. Their blood is on Stalin and commie's hands.
Nevertheless I was talking about modern day relationships between average people in my country and I stand by my initial point.
is he saying Russianians or ethnic Russians?
In English its the same word, but Putin always speaks about Rossiyani not Russkie even when he is speaking about obviously Russkie insistutions like the Russian Orthodox Chruch.
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Not Ethnic Nationalism ok?
>Ahem Donetsk. Crimea. Georgia Chechnya
Again, go and read what's happening there. Being Imperialistic and being genocidal are not one and the same no matter how much work we and the british done to prove otherwise.
Islam in Moscow
Moscow has 1 million Muslim residents and up to 1.5 million more Muslim migrant workers. The city has permitted the existence of four mosques.[102][103] The mayor of Moscow claims that four mosques are sufficient for the population.[104] The city's economy "could not manage without them," he said. There are currently 8,000 mosques in Russia.[105]
Such suppression, much horror.
>Do I need to remind you of native americans or remind aussies about abos or you again about your slavery or britain about the opium wars in China or japs about China as well?
So that is wrong but Russian genocides were not?
Explain.
No nationality has committed genocide as consistently and regularly as ethic russians.
The Rus were slavers and extortionists with no civilization.
3 were deported one was a secretary of the communist party regional administration so very mixed up shit but it all ended when that Stalin fuck died, good riddance. The communist period sucked ass.
And that means we know how to make -niggers behave. Moment they chimp out another purge is underway.
>Again, go and read what's happening there.
A report by the United Nations said there had been an "alarming deterioration" in human rights in territory held by insurgents affiliated with the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and Luhansk People's Republic (LPR). The UN reported growing lawlessness in the region, documenting cases of targeted killings, torture, and abduction, primarily carried out by the forces of the Donetsk People's Republic. The UN also reported threats against, attacks on, and abductions of journalists and international observers, as well as the beatings and attacks on supporters of Ukrainian unity. A report by Human Rights Watch said "Anti-Kiev forces in eastern Ukraine are abducting, attacking, and harassing people they suspect of supporting the Ukrainian government or consider undesirable...anti-Kiev insurgents are using beatings and kidnappings to send the message that anyone who doesn't support them had better shut up or leave".
It was asked where the multiculti was. There. Right there. 10 to 15 percent of Russia belongs to the Moorish Hordes.
You guys kill ethnic minorities like crazy, but apparently only when they're white. I know Russia is all about trying to follow in Rome's footsteps, but this is not the way to do it.
The Russian economy is failing. Russia definitely needs minorities.
>Because they're treated truly equally as everyone else as every other citizen and not constantly told they're special and need special treatment as in EU, US.
>I had tatars and kalmiks, komi and iakuts, jews and mordva and others in my classes in school and uni and I can't remember a single argument or xenophobic thing that was said to either of them. The chances are people wouldn't even notice you're native siberian or volga tatar if you won't explicitly tell them.
>They all speak perfect russian, live according to our laws and respect our culture as well as we respect theirs.
>And that means we know how to make -niggers behave. Moment they chimp out another purge is underway.
So which is it?
Same on stuff on the Ukrainian side. This conflict sucks because both sides are wrong and both have been betrayed by their masters. Bunch of savages brainwashed with fairy tales.
>muh poor oppressed ottoman collaborators
(((Stalin's Rule)))
>UN is unbiased and reliable
>RT is propaganda
>Shelling aleppo is Ebil
>Shelling donetsk is Just
What's the point
You aren't getting it. We have a very long history, and much of it is very dark. Same is true for most nations with long history. Nowdays those policies furthest extent is forced resettlement in cases of violent resistance. Not kill them all let god sort them out as one famous catholic said. And even then, while we don't tiptoe around minorities like other people do, we do make a honest effort to assimilate them.
>>its fake though, he didn't say this
((Its fake, in my mind))
Both sides can't be wrong. Just like how both sides can't be wrong regarding events like MH17. The reason why you say both sides are wrong is just your ignorance.
>we do make a honest effort to kill them.
Fixed that for you and if you invade them and take their land then you are not assimilating a minority your a murdering imperialist bastard.
So stop doing it.
If anything RT is what CNN, NBC and the rest should be. And actual Russian media is what all countries should be working on.
When was the last time u saw actual dialog on western media and not simply memetic agenda bullshit. When was the last time anyone saw US leaders speaking like a human??
>If anything RT is what CNN, NBC and the rest should be. And actual Russian media is what all countries should be working on.
>When was the last time u saw actual dialog on western media and not simply memetic agenda bullshit. When was the last time anyone saw US leaders speaking like a human??
This is the same RT that featured max keiser selling little silver coins and claiming the decadent wests economic collapse was inevitable?
This made me laugh, thanks based ... I don't even know Sup Forums slur for Irish. At any rate you appear both honest and convinced of your views, which is better than most people. Discussion is clearly going nowhere so let the readers judge our points however they may.
Well at least by Putin's friends and the state.
>This made me laugh, thanks based ... I don't even know Sup Forums slur for Irish. At any rate you appear both honest and convinced of your views, which is better than most people. Discussion is clearly going nowhere so let the readers judge our points however they may.
Empires always end up destroying the founding nation.
Thus all the mosques in Moscow.
>Empires always end up destroying the founding nation.
Nah man, we have been imperialistic bastrads on and off for 500 years or so. Sure there are setbacks, some major and or horrifying like holodomor or 90s. Moskow stands.
>Nah man, we have been imperialistic bastrads on and off for 500 years or so. Sure there are setbacks, some major and or horrifying like holodomor or 90s. Moskow stands.
I study empires. Once in retreat the decline is usually terminal. The Ottoman empire lasted 700 years. Most less. Russia would be better off as a Russian Orthodox European state and let the ethics have their own countries.The longer the attempt to sustain empire the more assured the collapse, see the British. Note the British empire collapsed rapidly after it reached its maximum extent similar to the USSR and now has the consequences domestically.
Empire is cancer to the founding nationality above all.
>Empire is cancer to the founding nationality above all.
Brits are doing ok. They may have lost their control, but the ties are still largely there.
>Brits are doing ok. They may have lost their control, but the ties are still largely there.
England is mostly done.
The Cossack were the fist of the Russian Empire. Empire ate them. If Russia [persists in Empire now, it will be destroyed.
According to 2002 Russia's population census, there are 140,028 people who currently self-identify as ethnic Cossacks
Nearly extinct
>ethnic Cossacks
Good joke.
No really, it's insane to call cossacks ethnic group. They were a culture of horse riders and an ethical mix between central slavs, west slavs and tatars.
How could it possibly surprise you that they are dying out in an age where horses are a novelty?
for what it's worth I just heard our cuck prime-minister Rutte say on the radio that refugees that cause trouble need to literally GTFO.
There's hope yet...
>>ethnic Cossacks
>Good joke.
>No really, it's insane to call cossacks ethnic group. They were a culture of horse riders and an ethical mix between central slavs, west slavs and tatars.
>How could it possibly surprise you that they are dying out in an age where horses are a novelty?
I have a lot of arms and armour and I am much older than most. I have many things from the last 300 years one of the things I have is a antique kinjal dagger. They were once a people in their own right. Not any more. All the imperial nations are destroyed by their own empire. Russia as it is will break up further and collapse. It is not inevitable i action was taken but I do not see that happening. In the end Kazakhs etc will swallow Russians and there will be less and less. There were once many cassocks. This rivalry you have to be a contender with the USA is foolish. At waterloo I have to bayonets. One French from where the Imperial guard were butchered and another British from the farm. They both sit beside each other now.
Putin is the worst thing that could have happened to Russia.
My best friend is Chechen
Pretty cool guy tbqh
We live in peace
Typical example of a brainwashed Russophobe who thinks he knows anything about Russia's history, because he reads Wikipedia.
>Empires always end up destroying the founding nation.
Take USSR for example. Every republic had books, schools in local language. Even the anthem was in local language. Russian schools (if there were any in the area) were required to teach Russian pupils the local language.
Take Stalin's deportation from Lithuania, for example. Only a fraction of the population was sent to Siberia. Why were they selected? Maybe they did something (in case of Stalin, the neighbor could have said they did something)? You know, maybe they were on the Nazi's side during the war (there are now yearly marches in Latvia of these people)?
Not to mention, Siberia is fucking huge and not all of it is Antarctica. And after Stalin's death, people were allowed to move back.
Lithuania received 1/3 of its current territory because of the USSR: the 3rd largest city and the current capital itself. So, USSR kept the culture, rebuilt it after the war, gave 1/3 of its current territory, lived in harmony after Stalin's death, gave independence in the early 90s where it easily could have not done it, the population was actually rising up until that moment, and Russia gets all this bullshit from brainwashed idiots like you? You have absolutely know clue about Russia's history.
>Putin is the worst thing that could have happened to Russia.
Pretty much the best thing tbqh famalam. He raised Russia up from a crumbling state Yeltsin left behind.
>break up, collapse
>literally zero evidence or arguments for that happening
Wrong again. If anything we've seen Russia unite more and more over the years.
>Kazakhs
user please..
>kinjal dagger
....
Perhaps it would help you understand why I'm so confident about ethnic minorities treatment in russia if you knew that I was born in Armenia and only have 25% russian blood.
I don't look anything like your run of the mill "russian", yet when I was old enough to be asked what my nationality is I couldn't in good faith write armenian in, because I lived in russia since early childhood.
In all of my life my looks came up about 3 times in any manner of negative context that I remember, once in first grades of school girl asked if I converted from muslim faith when I moved from Armenia. And twice some random (different) drunk bastrads on the bus who just smirked at me. Oh sure every now and then I get asked where I'm from, but there is no hostility in it just curiosity.
That's it.
So when you see russian census and see 80% russian, ask yourself how much of those 80% simply accepted identity as a russian above blood.
Putin is far from perfect, his economic policy is oft dissapointing, but it's slowly moving in the right direction and his policies on other fronts continue to please me to no end.
I get that you are irish and projecting. But please stop talking about shit you don't know.