Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
PS. Daily reminder to give free helicopter rides to communists.
Thomas Powell
A communist economic system would be characterized by advanced productive technology that enables material abundance, which in turn would enable the free distribution of most or all economic output and the holding of the means of producing this output in common. In this respect communism is differentiated from socialism, which, out of economic necessity, restricts access to articles of consumption and services based on one's contribution.
Brody Morgan
>advanced productive technology that enables material abundance Humanity has been capable of producing vast surpluses for quite a while now user, yet the whole commushit thing just quite doesn't seem to work now does it? See
A communist society would free individuals from long working hours by first automating production to an extent that the average length of the working day is reduced and second by eliminating the exploitation inherent in the division between workers and owners. A communist system would thus free individuals from alienation in the sense of having one's life structured around survival (making a wage or salary in a capitalist system), which Marx referred to as a transition from the "realm of necessity" to the "realm of freedom." As a result, a communist society is envisioned as being composed of an intellectually-inclined population with both the time and resources to pursue its creative hobbies and genuine interests, and to contribute to creative social wealth in this manner. Karl Marx considered "true richness" to be the amount of time one has at his or her disposal to pursue one's creative passions.Marx's notion of communism is in this way radically individualistic.
Nathaniel Gutierrez
How to destroy enemy nations: >ship commies there >pay commies to spread their ideology >try to make commie ideology flourish >success, that place is now a shithole behind the rest of the world for a century or so.
Kevin Adams
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James Bell
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Leo Campbell
Did someone say National Socialism thread?
Connor Allen
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Ayden Walker
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Jaxon Edwards
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Jacob Flores
Mutualist here.
Tankies are not welcome on Sup Forums, take your state capitalist ass somewhere else.
Parker Russell
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Julian Jenkins
Die faggot
Isaiah Jackson
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Ryder Baker
>in the spirit of communism
Hunter Cruz
This shit isn't even a discussion thread, it's just blatant propaganda at this point. Hidalgo over here just spews the same shit over and over again, hoping one of his (((allies))) comes to save the day for him.
Fucking tankie fascists, GET OFF MY BOARD! REEEEEEEEEEEEE
if I claim my house as private property and lock the door am I committing treason?
Jaxson Thomas
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Austin Bennett
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Isaiah Jackson
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Jack Watson
Fuck commies! Hail Hitler.
Justin Cox
Cultural Marxism =/= Marxism
How about you get yourself educated instead of being a class cuck?
Evan Young
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Nicholas Thompson
Here's some more of that spirit o'communism you like.
I might go to /leftypol/ and make some rather valuable contributions to various discussions. I think if we all did that every time we one of these threads, they might not feel like they have to visit us so much.
We'd be doing them a favour. I call it 'the final solution to the /leftypol/ question'
Luke Garcia
And how pray tell would a communist society pay for these automation machines? Keep in mind that many of these metals and materials will need to imported so unless you implement global communism then you can't abolish capital, which opens up a whole can of worms regarding how you implement that.
It's a nice idea but you're full of shit
Ian Watson
Wait!I though you guys said my generals were ignored/not problematic, make up your minds. Why do you want to censor political doctrines discussion comrade? Is like you are...
Sebastian Reed
Marxism leads to Cultural Marxism, you Kike.
Samuel Roberts
Of course communism is global.
Xavier Ortiz
No, it doesn't. Marxism is modernization and liberation of culture, not its destruction.
Liam Kelly
can private property exist in a communist society?
Charles Martinez
Only personal property.
Kayden Baker
>make up your minds. That's funny, we get called a hivemind quite a lot. Interesting how we actually have quite a diverse array of opinions and nationalities here isn't it? >Why do you want to censor You misunderstand user, it must be a bother having to come here, I'm merely proposing to save you the trouble by visiting /leftypol/. I'm trying to help you user.
ask your fellow comrades on reddit or are they notrealsocialist?
Easton Peterson
We have tons of redpills prepared for you on the other side my future comrade.
Brandon Cruz
>literally had to cherry pick isolated events all over planet earth to criticize capitalism >"in communism everyone would be loving saint!" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazino_affair >6000 people forcefully deported from their homeland to an empty island >commies though they would just sort themselves out and magically make a communist community >markets and prices were illegal >people started dying >health officials started to find corpses that got cannibalized >50 people had to be arrested for cannibalism >4000 of the original 6000 died
Dominic Gomez
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Matthew Thompson
>discussion there's as much discussion in here as there was in sarah andersen threads. now i'm not going to censor your opinions (can't anyhow), but 2bh your threads are just pure propaganda fodder with the same bullshit spewed over and over again
examples: and have all been posted in previous threads, word for word. going back to discussion though, especially in regards to yourself, you don't ever contribute shit. you spout off memes until someone more intelligent than you attempts to defend your views, but then continue to spout the same shit or ignore arguments that you cannot counter with some regurgitated memespeak. all im saying is, your quality is lacking my friend and there is no indication that it'll ever evolve into anything better
Connor Peterson
A multitude of systems, all failed.
Charles Butler
it's a doggy dog world
Eli Taylor
>Marxism is modernization >modernization >created in the 19th century Wat
Mason Barnes
But how would you establish it? Why would resource rich countries give away wealth and resources for no gain? Because it's nice? Get real.
Ayden Carter
cute!
Leo Morales
>Hello Comrades
Tyler Thomas
Do you want it to evolve to anything better mr.skellington?
Eli Hill
porky?
Zachary Evans
PEE pee into my poo poo plelasee
Adrian Parker
First you need all countries to become socialist states.
Jackson Brown
and what will you do if certain countries resists?
Tyler White
I do. And you're the catalyst of that, but you do nothing.
Ryan Perry
Removing all outdated aspects used to create class differences and religious dogmas, enslaving people physically and mentally, is modernization of society.
Now go be a wage slave while your boss knocks up your wife, cuck.
Wyatt Baker
>gommies calling anyone skelligton.
Nathaniel Fisher
ayy lmao
Noah Jackson
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Colton Butler
Don't ask them hard questions user.
Jaxson Murphy
Kek
Gabriel Harris
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Alexander Taylor
Fight back against capitalists.
Evan Robinson
typical.
Connor Sanders
dont fight back against my pee pee into ur bummy XDDDD
Joseph Diaz
> fight back Top kek
Camden Martin
This is your answer? Holy shit.
Benjamin Smith
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Adrian Miller
class differences Oy Vey some people how it better than me. >religious dogmas Tips Fedora >>enslaving people physically and mentally Oh uh mom wants me to to move out and get a job.
Asher Thompson
W R O N G
You should know that all females in communists states are either dead or dying from famine, or are you NOT A REAL SOCIALIST
Michael Nelson
>Tips Fedora Prove to me your religion is real. The burden of proof is on you, since it's you proving the existence.
>Oh uh mom wants me to to move out and get a job. But you got a job where you do all the work, but get 1% of the profits. Wow, you're such a free and independent individual. Do you at least get a free lunch in your sweat shop?
Jose Morgan
You commie dumb fuck, your beloved Bernie and wife tried to buy property (40 acres) from a Catholic Church accused of child molestations also needing the money to pay off lawyer fees.
The Sanders are not perfect, they are now owned by Soros and his people. Your wasted donation.
Connor Anderson
And you haven't worked a day in your life.
Angel Fisher
Communism a shit
Lucas Russell
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Hunter Fisher
>Do you at least get a free lunch in your sweat shop? BEHOLD! THE HORRORS OF CAPITALISM
Isaiah Cruz
kindly fuck off to kikebook
Aaron Russell
I have worked in my village, where we have common land. We all get equal share there, rather than 1% to the worker, 99% to the owner who bought that property with someone else's money.
And these statistics wouldn't be funded by some capitalist organization, would they?
Joseph Turner
dude, we know what communism is
the infantile notion that if you give everything you own to the government it will take better car for it than you will
since no one in their right mind would do it, the communists took by force the means of production and promptly managed to run the industry to the ground
we are still recovering from their crap and will do so in the coming decades
fuck off and die
Ryan White
You left out the most important part
That communism can only happen through advanced industrial capitalism
t. Marx
Evan Harris
so where does all the wealth goes when you've achieved your goal?
I'll second Bulgoris here. Communism fucked our mentality several times over.
Blake Thompson
You can't and won't find any statistics that put former soviet republics ahead of any of those countries and you know it. Nowhere, he's larping.
Daniel Rogers
>Prove to me your religion is real. The burden of proof is on you, since it's you proving the existence. Well I can't because I'm a Apatheist. >Do you at least get a free lunch in your sweat shop? Well I'm Self-Employed, So yes I got a so called "free lunch".
Josiah Bailey
So your dad told you to clean the house and help fix the roof?
Jesus Christ you are so brave.
Now, get a job and support your family and country, you pathetic excuse of a human.
Alexander Baker
>That look on Stalin's face This has to be my favorite
Timings for applying the planning algorithm to model economies of different sizes. Timings were performed on a 3 Ghz Intel Zeon running Linux, with 2 GB of memory. Industries Mean Inputs CPU Time Memory N M seconds bytes Law M = √ N 1,000 30 0.1 150KB 10,000 100 3.8 5MB 40,000 200 33.8 64MB 160,000 400 77.1 512MB 320,000 600 166.0 1.5G Law M ≈ log N 1,000 30 0.1 150KB 10,000 40 1.6 2.4MB 100,000 50 5.8 40MB 1,000,000 60 68.2 480MB • questioned Murphy’s requirement that planning requires pre-knowledge of all possible prices, • argued that the domain of prices to which planning is applied is in principle finite rather than infinite and that thus Cantor’s arguments are inapplicable, or at worst prices are countable, and Cantor’s arguments are applicable but irrelevant because there is no concievable requirement that this domain be closed under diagonalisation, • argued that planning over finite prices is tractable, • shown that diagonalisation is not applicable to prices or commodities, and • discussed how infinite structures of predominantly zero values may be given finite representations. In conclusion we have shown that Murphy’s arguments are ill founded. The computational feasibility of economic planning at a detailed level is an issue that must be investigated in its own right, and cannot be settled by appeal to Cantor. We have presente
Jaxon Lee
oh look it's the same shitty anime pictures that he always posts. the same ones. the same ones. the same ones. dose he think they bump the thread? they don't because you can't self bump and everyone who replies to them sages the thread (or at least should)
Justin Adams
Better thread
Asher Watson
We have presented specific arguments that suggest that detailed planning is indeed feasible.