How do we fix it?
Apparently some Republicans want to increase spending on opioid treatments as part of Trumpcare.
Funny though.
Blacks have a crack epidemic, and we lock them up in droves.
Whites have an opioid epidemic, and "he dindu nothing. you see, his economic anxiety and outsourcing has disenchanted him from life. he needs our help. totally not his fault!"
marilize legaljuana
>/thread
War on drugs shouldn't be legal, anyways.
Why did alcohol require a constitutional amendment to ban, but no other drugs do?
How can the federal government make drugs illegal despite it not being an enumerated power?
Why did it not fall into a reserved power like it should?
Legalize recreational McHeroin
That's because the whites are white and the blacks are black.
It will fix itself.
Darwinian laws no longer apply to developed countries as we subsidize their self-destructive behavior through the modern welfare state.
Have doctors prescribe it less and limit the supply. In addition legalize marijuana if it helps things a bit. Otherwise let them go. 500,000 people will die from it over the next decade. The government wants to commit billions upon billion of dollars to solve the "epidemic". Honestly it isn't worth it. Just let them die.
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Sell it over the counter to adults 21 and over.
Let them die of drug overdoses, poverty and crime.
crack down on the nigger-tier doctors who overprescribe the shit, instead encourage them to prescribe less potent but less addictive painkillers like tramadol. i think this step alone, if performed effectively, would greatly reduce the impact of the opoid epidemic.
on a personal note though, every pill-head i've ever met was a terrible, terrible person both before and after they got addicted. i frankly couldn't care less what happens to most of them.
1)Stop reviving ODfags
2)No more state funded needle programs "rehab" or "treatment"
3)Mandatory minimum sentences of 10+ years for illegal possession
4)Drug testing for all recipients of government aid. Detection of opiates without a prescription and medically sound reason to be on opiate medication results in permanent ban from all government aid
Anyone that disagrees is a junkie or an enabler.
Fake history - blacks were never locked up for crack per se. That was a reaction to the extreme levels of violence in ghetto areas. Black politicians like Charles Rangel supported tough crack penalties in the hopes that it would also lock up the most violent and chaotic individuals, making ghettos safer.
It didn't work out that way, but that was the intent. And it wasn't white people alone who carried out those policies - it was local black city and police officials.
It's simple. Kill anyone who deals opiates. Cost of doing business goes through the roof, less people deal, more people seek help.
NB: this deal is a non-transferable offer for White problems only. We all remember how the darkies responded when Baltimore PD put down the local crack dealer.
Lost me at minimum 10 year sentence.
>t. Junkie
High functioning alcoholism.
>Mc heroin
> we an only dream
We have unlimited codeine in Australia which has been a great ride but it ends next year :(
>How do we fix it?
Obviously treatment, etc.
However what we really need to do is go hard against the source of this shit. Go completely medieval on dealers, drug cartels, etc. Declare a state of emergency and deny the people who are selling and dealing this stuff their constitutional rights.
Keep prescribing people opiates so people don't have to go elsewhere.
Most of the problem we are seeing are patients being cut off my doctors turning to heroin laced with fent/carf because it cheaper than buying the pills they used to take.
If they can pay for their prescription oxy who gives a fuck. Junkies don't OD in pills, they OD on jammed smack.
Why do we allow tobacco, alcohol, marijuana and benzo addicts continue their degeneracy, but for some reason coke and opiate junkies aren't given the same freedom?
Marinate iguanas!
You realize tax dollars pay for prisoner upkeep right? You really want to pay for thousands more people to neet it up on the taxpayer dime for at least 10 years guaranteed? I sure as hell don't. Let the fuckers take their pills and be degenerates. The problem solves itself. Someone on opioids is just laying around the house lazy. They're not as much of a problem as crackheads.
Stop prescribing opiates for "muh back pain", stop saving the elderly from their 4th stroke, stop allowing retard babies to live, stop allowing junkies to shoot up, stop allowing non-citizens to get emergency care in any hospital in which they are not a citizen, stop giving free healthcare away, healthcare is not a right it is a privilege for those who deserve to live.
>Why do we allow tobacco, alcohol, marijuana and benzo addicts continue their degeneracy, but for some reason coke and opiate junkies aren't given the same freedom?
why do we allow people to fuck 18 year olds but not 14 year olds? why do we allow driving at 60 mph but not 90 mph? just think for a minute dude.
>Ancap
>wants drugs to be illegal
>government aid
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Let people get high flaggot
Better society.
Lock them both up, the whole drug addiction is a disease meme needs to die. You are prone to alcoholism, you should know not to drink. This is a self discipline issue, something unfortunately frowned upon.
don't worry. it will fix itself.
The difference is prescribing Vicodin or oxycodon is legal and they aren't doing it man. Doctors aren't even suggesting there might be an alternative. People are just getting cut off. I'm trying to look at this issue objectively. I don't have any personal experience. I've just know many people on both sides.
Addiction or legitimate pain is a serious issue. The solution isn't as simple as most people think. Maybe using a shitty analogy, from another perspective as objectively as possible, imagine opiates are firearms. So many people have them. Banning them outright is impossible.
It costs far more to keep these people in and out of rehab and on government aid. And junkies are in and out of jail and prison anyway. Harsh penalties discourage drug use.
Just like it did in Russia in 2012. Poof, and it's gone.
Stock up.
why do you think that issue is that people are cut off from opioids once their prescription runs out? you don't think it's an issue that doctors overprescribe opioids (some doctors, especially in shittier states like florida, are known for basically being semi-legal opioid dealers) and/or don't provide their patients with information or resources addressing the issues of drug dependence and addiction?
Dont revive them.
>They're not as much of a problem as crackheads
They're the niggers of whites. In my town an entire street full of homes had their furnaces stop working because pill poppers cut the copper fuel lines from external fuel tanks to sell the metal for scrap. Both of them got a slap on the wrist because this retarded state thinks opiate addiction is a disease, even though they cost several families hundreds of dollars in lost fuel, the cleanup, and the repairs.
remove our military from afghanistan
I agree there are a bunch of doctors out there that are probably enabling junkies or even creating new ones. The problem is when that same doctor actually treats a patient with legitimate pain issues. The next doctor they go to has been so cucked at this point they refuse to help. It's happening more and more unfortunately.
We also have another unfortunate problem with big pharma telling the uneducated patient to tell the doctor what to prescribe. Fucking commercials are like perfume commercials these days. Every other commercial is some cougar sitting in a bathtub in the middle of the woods because she can't shit right and he can't get hard.
Funny that big tobacco can't advertise almost anywhere any more, but you can buy their shit almost any where. Meanwhile big pharma can push the latest and greatest pain killed on the TV, but you have to get a doctor to give it to you, and that same guy can cut you off any time.
>How do we fix the opioid epidemic?
This is actually easy but read and think before replying
1)Give it to the users for free flood the market. As much as they want. Simultaneously execute ten dealers a month for a year. Find an island and build a simple cement structure full of cells. Place one plastic bucket a matress and a gallon of water in each.
2)The entire dealer network collapses and anyone who is going to be an addict now is.
3)Make them now register to continue getting their free drugs
4)Under imposed media silence round them all up and dump them in the cells. A sheet is pushed under the cell door. Cold turkey. We have your name and know who you are. If you are caught with opium in your blood again you will be shot.
Problem solved. Through them one bottle of water and one hardtack k ration a day. After a month release the ones still alive.
my state would be bereft of heroin dealers if we deported all the niggers who come up from the city
t. Vermonter
>The problem is when that same doctor actually treats a patient with legitimate pain issues. The next doctor they go to has been so cucked at this point they refuse to help.
i addressed this when i said "you don't think it's an issue that doctors...don't provide their patients with information or resources addressing the issues of drug dependence and addiction?" the solution isn't to legalize opioids. it's to provide patients with the resources they need to not become addicted during the course of their treatment, or to safely deal with the effects of addiction if they do become physically addicted from their prescription.
>We also have another unfortunate problem with big pharma telling the uneducated patient to tell the doctor what to prescribe. Fucking commercials are like perfume commercials these days.
this is part and parcel of the overprescription problem i described earlier. better scrutiny and oversight of doctors proscribing opioids can resolve this.
why how does not matter. you want to eliminate junkies you got to know who they are and where they are, cold turkey them and crash the illegal dealer networks hard.
i agree, but the pussified american public would never allow something like that to happen.
All of these things sound great when you say them, and again I do agree with you for the most part, but these things are easy to say. Real addiction is mental, emotional psychological. Physical addiction can be overcome.
Try telling someone to stop taking their fent patches and oxy they've been using for the last 5 years because that new back surgery they just got should solve all their problems. You can just take a toddlers blanket away and not expect them to withdrawl. That's basically what's been happening for years.
>i agree, but the pussified american public would never allow something like that to happen.
Its the only way. The only way to destroy dealer networks which are complex and relatively fragile is give the product away for free and make it punitively dangerous. This lets you ID every single junkie too. What I am saying sound ludicrous but is in fact the solution to any drugs crisis. The element of surprise is critical. Given the harm opiate junkies do with thieving and spreading disease actually dealing with it is the only moral option or efficient use of tax money before you wind up with a war on drugs industry that achieves nothing and rips genuine liberties to shreds..
>disabled
>have torn shoulder cuff
>bladder spasms daily
>kidney problems
>pee out of a hole in my stomach
>have hernias
>have to act like a retard and ask about pain medicine or they won't give me any
>mention dilaudid one time as a reference of the pain meds they have to give me in hospital
>been through 30+ surgeries
>everytime I go there since
>"IM NOT GIVING YOU DILAUDID"
>never even asked for it
fun feeling like a dirt bag just trying to get meds that help me live a decent life. I'm legit disabled on SSi and get treated like I'm trying to Dr shop.
Have to ration my meds so I have enough to last. "is this pain worth it? Maybe I should wait until it's REALLY bad.."
thanks druggies for ruining it
>Real addiction is mental, emotional psychological.
Don't care. They are thieving disease spreading scum. Who they were does not matter. If you gave a shit you would realize that the soft touch and junkies and dealers does not work.
legalize all drugs to be sold without prescription
>legalize all drugs to be sold without prescription
On a permanent basis with drugs like crack, meth and opiates that would be a nightmare existence...you ony do that and in fact give free supply to bankrupt the dealers. You literally bankrupt them overnight. This gives you a chance to get all the junkies on a list and deal with them, relatively charitably cold turkey the fuckers and change the law to make it a death sentence to test positive for those substances, not for their good but to preserve the rights of non junkies to live without thieving disease ridden zombies . Soft drugs no one gives a shit about. It is addictions that drive theft and dealer chain violence that need to be smashed.
not necessarily. For example, methamphetamine was available over the counter in Nazi Germany and widely used, yet there was no nightmare existence. I don't think humans are naturally prone to addiction; it only comes about as a result of their life circumstances, especially whether or not their country is degenerate.
Please God let Trump do this just to show that this shit CAN be stopped because it can. The DEA industry does not want it to end. The 'rehab' industry does not want it to end but this is how you end it. Bankrupt the dealers and supply chains by making it free, id and round up the junkies. Cold Turkey and introduce execution for subsequent consumption If junkies dislike this then they may leave to wherever else they want they prefer to be.Fair warning to all. Cheap. Effective. Doable. Ten years later the junkies who survived that you cold turkeyed would be thanking you.
Must have been a shit childhood for you man. I'm sorry dude. If you're not trying to be edgy it must have been rough.
>not necessarily. For example, methamphetamine was available over the counter in Nazi Germany and widely used, yet there was no nightmare existence. I don't think humans are naturally prone to addiction; it only comes about as a result of their life circumstances, especially whether or not their country is degenerate.
Answer honestly have you ever worked with opiate junkies in particular heroin addicts or meth users?
not an argument.
>If you're not trying to be edgy it must have been rough.
I started working in Dublin in the middle of a heroin epidemic that was widespread, disgusting and tragic.
>not an argument.
That's it...that your reasoning fro selling heroin and crack in corner shops. So when johnny stabbyneedle breaks into your home desperate to get something he can sell for a fix and stabs you with a hiv filled syringe you can tell him its not an argument huh?
Rampant drug abuse is more of a symptom of a sad society rather than an individual or availability problem.
Psychedelics are proven cure for many forms of addiction.
>Majority of opium poppies in Afghanistan
>Taliban prohibits the cultivation of opium in 2000
>US invades the country in 2001
>Heroin and opiate related start to surge shortly after
>Army still in the country after 16 years
Really jiggers the neurons
This did not occur in Nazi Germany which had legal, over the counter methamphetamine.
Taliban didn't stop heroin, thats been their main source of revenue up to today
>Kill all drug users
>Torture all drug dealers to death
>Empower police and citizens to have free reign on drug addicts and dealers unless they turn themselves in
Educate whites in the dangers of drugs and push for a non degenerate and clean society
>This did not occur in Nazi Germany which had legal, over the counter methamphetamine
Yes Nazi Germany was a roaring success you idiot.
opiate addicts seem almost un-recoverable, so I don't relaly have an answer
mass executions.
Why are perfect societies like this frowned upon by the majority of public?
They banned poppy seeds and the cultivation of opium in 2000
It wasn't lifted until 2002 when the US overthrew them
You don't have a pain management doctor?
Anyway, I'm a physician myself. I rx opioids about once every three months. Otherwise, I rx Tylenol under a different name, or some obscure nsaid and tell the patient it is the good suff.
Listen, no one ever died of pain. And if you require to be doped up all the time, maybe euthanasia would be a better option.
Good luck to you bud.
Inogsine
To prevent an "outbreak of morphinism, as occurred after the last war," Professor Otto Wuth, a master sergeant and consulting psychiatrist to the military's senior medical command, wrote a "Proposal to Combat Morphinism" in February 1941. Under Wuth's proposal, all wounded who became addicted as a result of treatment were to be centrally recorded and reported to the "District Medical Board," where they would be either legally provided with morphine or routinely examined and sent to drug rehabilitation treatment centers. "In this manner," Wuth concluded, "morphine addicts will be recorded and monitored, and the entire group will be prevented from becoming criminal."
Gas the kikes who push the shit
Ihogainen
legalize weed. I want to quit opiods because I can barely get a boner. Even if I do I cannot ejaculate which sucks.
hydromorphone doesn't even take away my pain 60% of the time so I pay but loads of money for nothing. Weed works all the time every time.
Fucking normie niggers
Inogaine
You know how many fiends i've Narcan'ed?
The only recourse is to let them die, it just increases recidivism in b4 edgy
No pain managment doctor, dunno what that is. I'm not 'doped up'. I take 2 7.5mg percocet and it allows me to actually live a decent existence without being miserable, not wanting to go out, mostly just sit around if I don't have the pills
Yes pain won't kill me but it doesn't make it easier to try and live a normal life
Just because I'm on disability doesn't allow me to get the surgeries I need, in the mean time this allows me to get out and live
Inogaime
1.Communists
2.muh freedoms, evil state stopping me from cooking meth
3.Degenerate Stoners who's only joy is coming home after work and using drugs since they lack the intelligence to find entertainment and produce happiness themselves,
4.Smelly cuck hippies
5.Jews pushing for the destruction of the middle and lower class whites though drugs and other sneaky means
>not for their good but to preserve the rights of non junkies to live without thieving disease ridden zombies
totally agree with this, i've had the displeasure of living around junkies (thankfully no longer) and they're a fucking menace.
>legalize weed. I want to quit opiods because I can barely get a boner. Even if I do I cannot ejaculate which sucks.
>hydromorphone doesn't even take away my pain 60% of the time so I pay but loads of money for nothing. Weed works all the time every time.
Until you are off opiates what you think is irrelevant. Literally drug addled
Free market medicine would fix the problem. Physicians over prescribe opioids because they are a quick fix. Doctors are overwhelmed by patient loads.
Female doctors won't give you shit for pain meds. They think that physio cures all. It helps, but for very short periods and you can't get relief on demand like pills.
You should try to get codeine pills (not t3) or hydromorphone or hydromorphone cotin
>totally agree with this, i've had the displeasure of living around junkies (thankfully no longer) and they're a fucking menace.
Never ever trust a jubkie
Wew. Those are all just symptoms of the diagnosis, scalywag. If you want the source of the problem it's big pharmas legal drug dealing via oxycodone. People get hooked on painkillers first and then they realize that heroin is pretty much the same thing, but cheaper, and bad shit starts happening in communities.
Personally, I think their should be a national policy adoption that is like Ohio's, but better. Three strikes before no one is sent to help their ODing asses? Fuck that. ONE strike. Fuck the ridiculous spending on narcan. They get one time. One.
Legalize and regulate their use.
Or you could just do nothing
>human filth killing themselves in record numbers
Seems like it will solve itself.
>Free market medicine would fix the problem.
No it would create millions of thieving zombies with blood bourne diseases.
>No pain managment doctor, dunno what that is.
What the actual fuck? Listen to me, because you seem like a trainwreck patient. You need to see a pain management doctor, someone who can help shepard you with your treatment. What state are you in? And what type of hernias do you have?
You can't fix it, fixing it would require a multi-trillion dollar industry to collapse.
>>human filth killing themselves in record numbers
>Seems like it will solve itself.
Not before they have ruined hundreds of other lives.
Diet. Self enforced discipline . Prayer and meditation on the word of God.
Nuke the brown / yellow skins . If the actual drug is not from that location . The chemicals to manufacture are ..
>You can't fix it, fixing it would require a multi-trillion dollar industry to collapse.
That IS EXACTLY why you bankrupt the dealer chains by giving it away free for a year. It would ruin them.
> All the dumbfucks ITT who think you can actually WIN the war on drugs
you guys are fucking morons
>that image
thanks captain obvious.
care to tell me the odds of the sun rising tomorrow?
Bullshit. Docs just need some damn balls. I spend 10 min more with my patients to explain a care plan, I have good yelp reviews and more patients than I know what to do with. I hardly ever rx narcotics or abx or other bullshit.
You know how to spot a bad doc? Zpack for a dry cough, narcotics for a sprain, etc. Most of my colleauges here suck.
I literally don't know anything other vicodin percocet and morphine/dilaudid
I'm in FL, i've been on disability for about 6 months and I've been going to my doctor for about 5. i know we have a crazy problem down here with opiates. I have two hernias in my upper abdomen from having been operated on so many times
Number 3 is a poorly thought out exercise in social vindictiveness. I have no interest in paying to house junkies for a decade, knowing they're going to score and shoot as soon as they get out.
Keep them out of prison, they'll croak in a couple of years.