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ITT butthurt tradcucks seething

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MGTOW is the cure to the cancer that is feminism.

But I think that we need to go even further and fix the cause of feminism.

Can someone explain to me what MGTOW actually is? It looks and sounds incredibly gay.

Men who focus on their careers, their self-improvement and don't put pussy on a pedestal. They don't avoid women nor sex but they don't have long-term relationships. I'd even argue that a MGTOW could be someone who DOES have a relationship but doesn't have it as his main sole goal in his life.

>butthurt tradcucks seething
I'm just saying if you're a real man you will go your own way and not screech so much on the side wile people are getting their fuck on and their family done.
You're like a negative cheerleader.

It's mostly grown men with kids who got divorce raped and are warning the younger ones not to think with their dicks.

The "fat perma-virgin neckbeards" are the whiteknights worshipping the ground women walk on.

Everyone in these threads get the two confused.

Literally why can't you do both? Sex, espeically with someone you love, is an incredibly pleasurable experience. It really is.

In EVERY MGTOW thread you get the same discourse:

1) Inexperienced but horny kiddos think every guy just want to fuck anything that moves and the entirety of social interaction revolves around fucking and MGTOWs are fat autistic virgin neckbeards who can't get laid.

2) Actual MGTOWs who are experienced grown men who are warning about the dangers of women + the state vs you, and how you can be easily taken for all you've got.

3) The "Yes, thats right goy - dont reproduce" jew shills - yes JEW SHILLS. The thing (((they))) want you to do is YES reproduce children to a raving tinder psycho / bar slut who will NEVER grow up and you will be raising her as well as your kids until she bails on you and takes half your shit after dragging you through divorce court.

The jew agenda is NOT to stop whites reproducing, its to produce a WEAKER generation with poor parents so the state can become the new parents. No reproduction means no goy-cows for milking. Why the fuck would (((they))) not want a new generation of tax-slaves? (((They))) own the banking system AND the law courts / judicial process.

(((The agenda))) is all about making money from broken individuals from broken families - NOT stopping reproducing.

MGTOW is redpilled because its men refusing to get fucked over by the jew system - and (((they))) are worried. (((They))) are worried that (((they))) have pushed the feminist "high maintenance woman" meme too far and thought men would become pussyfied slaves to nagging bitches and never thought men would just go their own way.

It's risk vs reward. If I can have all the upside of a "relationship" without risking my assessment, why not?

I just said, I'd argue MGTOWs can have relationships, as long as they set it up so they don't get screwed out of them in the end AND as long as they don't have a woman as your primary goal in life. I mean, if that's you go for it, but you're making a huge mistake.

Also this.

Society is founded upon the family unit for one reason. Women are, by nature, a resource drain. They rear the next generation, they are physically weaker than men, and are coddled due to social and genetic reasons. Men as a whole produce something like 5x the economic growth that women produce, despite the roughly 50/50 split. Men choose to cooperate with society because they know they can get a wife if they do. The natural tendency is for harems to form, with 20% of men taking 80% of women in a high conflict competition.

Society redirects male sexual aggression into cooperation and productivity, which benefits all of us. Society is maintained by productive beta males, not NEETs on here. The incentives for men to contribute to society have disappeared because of women's wage parity and tendency to only marry up. Combined with sexual liberation creating soft harems in college, men are dropping out in staggering numbers.

Men are terrified and insulted by this because mgtows are directly operating against their own instincts, and seeing men capable of that makes the sexually subverted men uncomfortable. They see them as weak(justifiably so, they are by nature beta) but also have some partial envy for them due to their freedom from the game.

Women fear it because they know if the beta males dry up they'll be alone in their 30s. Women cling to support networks and desire individuals or groups to take care of them, and a beta shortage means significant loss of resources for them over the course of their life.

Both genders rationally fear mgtow because taken to its logical conclusion it would lead to complete and total social collapse. Like completely shutting down society. Mgtow is in many ways a logical response to feminism, but it has almost as much potential to subvert and destroy society.

It's playing with fire.

Assests

Here comes this shitshow of a thread again

Thanks for the red pill, sir

Im not MGTOW but i think i have the idea of how its "supposed" to be
Relationships and interactions with women offer me nothing, i have had girlfriends before and now im single but i dont feel like putting myself back into the meat grinder that is the current dating scene

I thought dating was about having fun, getting to know new people, enjoying things and maybe having sex and getting a gf. This isnt how dating has been at all, ive met maybe 3-4 single women during three years in uni and getting dates is not too hard but its work with no reward.
Sex isnt that enjoyable, its more about her enjoyment and while ive never failed at providing this ive come to realize most women orgasm from sex with or without the guys help.

Women dont offer me any of the stuff i want, i would want a relationship with kids but they arent offering that. Most girls i know my own age (29) are childless despite having a bf
They arent offering sex easily either, most single girls are single for a good reason and they are very hard to convince since they get all the benefits of hooking up without hooking up.

You can't really have the same rewards without it. Having a special connection with a woman is bliss. I don't know how old you are, but I'm in my mid 20s and I'm literally worrying about the day my 20s will end because of how great it is. This is both our genders prime. This is the time to fuck and connect. You will not regret it. I have a career, friends, lift 5 times a week, and so on. Would definitly recommend.

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Degeneracy does not fix degeneracy.

How did you extend the boundaries of the image over its boarders with that party hat thing?

Focus on your career, do that, do the other but why say you don't want to do something?
Me I don't want to do a lot of stuff but I'm not listing them on an imageboard to justify my life with that.
MGTOW is pathetic, just go your own way and stfu if you're real men.
NOBODY GIVES A SHIT you guys dropped out of society. Quit bitching cause nobody cares. Ok?!

youtube.com/watch?v=lcB0PoEL4RI

MGTOW has no intent, no social or political aims. It is not a movement or some kind of counter to feminism.

It is the rejection of a bad offer. The rejection of male disposability and cultural misandry. It's taking your ball and going home. MGTOW is an empty chair. It can't be attacked and it can't be stopped. Eventually it will lead to the end of the civilization as we know it.

Have a nice day (smily face).

>Degeneracy does not fix degeneracy.
Artificial wombs would fix women, user. You just claim it's degenerate because you don't like the only solution to our problems.

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Just look at this guy totally not caring.

I swear to god Sup Forums will believe anything if it's a picture with text attached to it.

Watch the first video and see if artificial wombs or women are healthy for society.
Then watch the second for an explanation of what happens (though very surface level).

Today's dating
>Your job?
>Tell me about your job?
>do you have a master's degree
It's like a ob interview.
And the bitches that do that are planning to suck cock behind your back anyway cause if you don't tell her to back off with the interrogatory she'll think you're a tool moron.

But you were not offered anything to being with. Why pretend?

>The white race is dying!!!
>Fuck women

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>Dating thots
>Not finding a woman at church or in your local community

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What does dependency in monkeys have to do with artificial wombs?

I'm not into youtube, so I'd like to hear your arguments from you.

Ok ok, I totally care about what you do with your cock bro.
NOT.
tay back let me get some of this good homecooking cunt while you get STDs in some dark alley cause you're not into relationships.

Why is it dying, user?

See

In the background is mens art.
vs
In the foreground is women "art"

I was offered a 1994 VW Gulf for $10,000. I turned it down. The owner was upset.

It’s jew propaganda to speed up the destruction of the white race.

>>The white race is dying!!!
>>Fuck women
Fucking women is exactly the answer, m8.

>I-I totally don't care
>now watch me keep replying to you for the rest o this thread with seething personal attacks because of how little I care

the system is the jew system. Marriage will cuck you to that system forever.

MGTOW is fucking up the jew system and (((they're))) worried

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Hooktube them then.

>What do monkeys with a very similar societal structure as us have to do with us
The same thing happens with humans, though you can't gather newborn babies to raise in a cage with a mechanical mother.
We can see that it happens because a lot of inmates and generally maladjusted people grew up away from their parents, had their parents die, had their parents abuse them etc and then had to have some form of a surrogate.

There is no replacement for a mother and father. Everything else is inferior and damages society.

>artificial wombs
>Every moron will get an artificial womb SOON.

you faggots don't have relationships, period, because your creep-out factor is off the scale

>feminism: make white women hate white men
>mgtow: make white men hate white women
same shit
same tricks

MGTOW are the eternal man-child who hasn't grasped that adult females will not cater to them like their mother

you'd think they were arab muslims

Bullshit. They’re importing low IQ tax slaves from Africa and the Middle East.
Whites are the only race who are capable of standing up to the Jewish menace which is why they don’t want them to breed, or if they do breed to breed with low IQ shitskins.
Don’t look at MGTOW as it’s own movement, look at the picture as a whole. Borderless immigration, MGTOW, Feminism breaking up the family, big government dependence etc and you’ll see what the end game really is.

Not fawning over women creeps them out.
Throwing money at them relieves any creepyness.

If women don't find you creepy, is because they're made you their bitch and you think your're being "mature about relationshits"

>Hooktube them then.
My issue isn't with the site but me havng to stop listening to music to watch some video because some dunce on the internet can't argue for himself.

>We can see that it happens because a lot of inmates and generally maladjusted people grew up away from their parents, had their parents die, had their parents abuse them etc and then had to have some form of a surrogate.
Most inmates were raised in single mother households, user. The common factor in this degeneracy, just like with almost every other generacy, is the woman.

>There is no replacement for a mother and father.
Weirdly enough, you don't see these horror stories of kids raised by single fathers.

I get it, you're a tradcuck and think we can go back to the days of yonder. When you come up with a time machine, maybe you'll actually be able to argue against the usefulness of an alternative form of reproduction that doesn't rely on known degenerates and nation wreckers.

>I like the way you enjoy singing religious songs, wana go out? I'm also down with Christ.(does a cross with hand) That's all you, lord.
Yea I can imagine that.

>They’re importing low IQ tax slaves
They arent taxing social benefits, m8

In a sense, the whole system / the expectations of the society for a regular guy to work hard, find a woman, have kids with her and work hard some more, are the "offer".

A lot of people still find that "offer" (the way of life, in a sense) to be very appealing, but ever so slightly growing group of guys are searching for something else instead. Or at the very least putting away that kind of lifestyle for the time being until they will feel like trying it (if ever).

>Whites are the only race who are capable of standing up to the Jewish menace which is why they don’t want them to breed
Having an Anglo pretend to be anti-jew always gets a giggle out of me.

It is just a symptom, that is how I see it. Nothing more than a sign something is wrong in a far greater sense.

I don't think MGTOW is breaking up families.
Its the psycho women who are well known to wreck everything. The psycho women have been around for decades already and MGTOW is the natural response.

If anything feminism made women go their own way, and men started finding meaning elsewhere that has nothing to do with women

So you guys are sure that this whole movement has nothing to do with you being undesirable?

That's actually not true.
The (((mass media))) shuns MGTOW and the ones that promote it look like they don't have a significant budget behind.
The jew wants you to keep chasing the cunt, keep spending while chasing the cunt and be busy to not question the jew.

Aren't you that 0 child Norsk LARPing as some alpha from the last thread?

because most mgtows are ex-married men

>Would rather listen to music than watch a scientific experiment and educational video on psychology 101
>Calls me a dunce
Irony.

>Most inmates are raised by single mothers
The videos I supplied you explain how and why relationships break up and why they are the way they are. You're not providing a solution to the problem, you're adding more fuel to the fire.

>Weirdly enough you don't see these horror stories by single fathers
You do though, but there are far less single fathers than there are single mothers in the first place. It's a moot point.

You sound angry user, why?

I disagree, getting married and raising a couple of kids in a stable household will ensure the white race.
There is still good women out there and good men are taking themselves out of the marketplace.
As a father myself I can honestly say that raising a family is the best thing you can do in my opinion.

>Hey, wanna go for a coffee sometime?
Is it really so hard?

Church isn't just sermons anyway. Try it.

Nope, I was the last Norwegian to post.

They're designing a new society and it will be brownish.

GRRRR ITS ALLL WOMENS FAULT

GRR MEN AREN'T FALLIBLE AT ALL

HAHAHAHAHAH!!

Why do psycho men and women occur in the first place? It's part nature and nurture.

Trying to replace men and women with something else that cannot nurture is probably the worst thing you could possibly do if you want to fix people.

>fun flag: check
>kike propaganda: check
>white male castration is okay goyim: check
>justify your comfort zone goyim: check
>Sup Forums anecdotes means reality goyim: check
>the problem is all outside of you: check
Enjoy the trash can jew shills

Your whole life is being held hostage by that (((system))).

The ransom is continually meeting the ever-loftier expectations of women. Women are being marketed to all the time about all the shit they need to keep up with social expectations.

You simply cannot raise kids in a bubble protected from all the degenerate shit our society shoves in their faces.

That's a hell for me.

This is true, there has always been psycho women so be more picky.
As my old dad always said, don’t stick it in crazy.

YOU MADE A MERCHANT SWEAT.

Funny thing is that there are many people who seriously demand something from those undesirables.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Jew was behind both side of that, their usual M.O is to control both sides of society.

The fix is by keeping yourself to yourself, working on yourself and improving yourself.

Become the prize and women will have to up their game. Right now there are hoards of beta cucks worshipping women and putting the pussy on a pedestal and beggars can't be choosers.

>Irony.
There's no irony in me insisting on the guy I'm arguing with to present his own arguments, user. I'm not going to sacrifice my comfort just because you're over your head.

>The videos I supplied you explain how and why relationships break up and why they are the way they are.
Does that in any way negate the fact that most inmates were raised in single mother households?
>You're not providing a solution to the problem
Because there's no solution. It's a problem that needs to be eliminated.
>You do though
Cool, name some.
>You sound angry user, why?
Because I am.

>Women are being marketed to all the time about all the shit they need to keep up with social expectations.
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Women dont need to do shit in society, what are you smoking?

The jew system has created the failure in mens trust of marriage and relationships and MGTOW is fucking up that system

>improving improving improving improving improving improving
MGTOWs are a bunch of lazy faggots, that's why they're in this predicament.

This I agree with. Self improvement is good for everybody, just don't confuse self improvement with hedonism.

Weird thing is that women are the majority. Usually men are competed for, not the other way around.

Women are the main consumers. They buy all the shit. They are the shoppers.

Thats what I was trying to convey

mgtows are all sorts of people. Most are old ex-married men with kids.

The idea that mgtows are lazy fat neckbeards is a pol echo chamber effect.

>Usually men are competed for, not the other way around.
Excuse my ignorance but arent harems a natural form? like many men competing against one another for women?

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They would let it slide on the side like the emos(like it's a fad or mysterious) but they don't, they attack it.
I'm not MGTOW don't get me wrong.
For some reason jews don't like it, they rather you chase the good wife and never getting it rather than just saying fuck it and doing something else with your life.

I don't know.
Women hold the keys to reproduction and they are the choosers.
Men settle for what ever comes along so if we mprove ourselves we get better options, right?

I agree with you there. Society has turned into a degenerate shithole, but that doesn’t mean we should just give up.
I find gentle red pulling my kids helps them to see through the propaganda and will hopefully keep them on the straight and narrow. Having a good compassionate and caring woman helps.

To be honest I’m a bit of an old fag and that could well have a bearing on my attitudes towards this compared to the next generation down.

yes - this again.

This guy was sent in by (((the rebel media))) to discredit mgtows. Have you seen this guy again or can you explain the outfit and lipstick? No. He is rebel media and there to make a story.

mgtows are fucking up the jew system by leaving the plantation.

Why should I write out what has been succinctly put thousands of times before me for your comfort? Why should I sacrifice my own comfort for you? I don't think you realise how much of your personality is coming through your posts.

It doesn't negate it, I didn't imply it did. I'm saying you're looking only at the symptom of the problem. You're not looking for the root cause and how to solve that.

There is a solution, but you don't like it because you are angry for whatever reasons you have.

And like I said, you can't eliminate a problem by having a kneejerk reaction to one of the symptoms of the problem.

>Women hold the keys to reproduction and they are the choosers
You are the chooser cause you're doing the courting.
Women are mostly passive and if they reject you you should fuck off cause it's not hunting.

That’s interesting. The problem worth the Jew is you always end up trying to second guess them.

>turned into a degenerate shithole
>looked at the news, murders and shit 0.01% society
>it's all gone to shit, society is degenerate

>Why should I write out what has been succinctly put thousands of times before me for your comfort? Why should I sacrifice my own comfort for you?
Because for some reason you insisted on entering this discussion.

>I'm saying you're looking only at the symptom of the problem. You're not looking for the root cause and how to solve that.
But that's wrong, user. The root cause is woman. The solution is right there >There is a solution, but you don't like it
So essentially "no u" to what I've said here
Name your solution that doesn't rely on pretending that the current environment isn't real.

>And like I said, you can't eliminate a problem by having a kneejerk reaction to one of the symptoms of the problem.
Women aren't just a symptom, user. Millions of years of evolution made them into what they are now, and what they are isn't compatible with civilization or the goal to maintain it.

Not only is there no real benefit in keeping them around, should there ever be an alternative, keeping them around proves to be a net negative. It's only rational to want to eliminate that factor.

>You are the chooser cause you're doing the courting
Thats not how this works at all
Women select from hundreds of men, she has the power to say yes or no
men need to play this wicked game to have a chance of a yes, she can just say yes and end the game

I see someone rarely went outside

Of course you would say that, you already have a kid.

You appear to have zero comprehension.

Mgtow IS "fucking off". It stands for "men going their own way"

Please read and re-read posts to understand whats being said.

If you settle for whatever comes along you have found your problem I think.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem
This custom persisted until the last century in the West. Families would have a lot of children to try and marry off to other wealthy families.

The girls would try to catch the attention of any male suitor.