Devs Nov 18 >Conflicting reports that Hawijat Kati was surrendered, or that the fight is still ongoing >ISIS car bomb kills 20, injures 30 at site for displaced families near DeZ >NE Hama; Free Idlib Army takes out 2 govt tanks with US made TOW missiles >Most recent batch of Amaq images released from Abu Kamal depicts SAA approaching the city >Joint mechanism of the UN and OPCW has formally ended its activities, UNSC failed to adopt new resolution on its extension >Nikki Haley; US ready to ‘fight for justice’ in Syria without UN approval >'Israel shouldn't go to war with Lebanon, as we will surely win' – Lebanese FM >Saad Hariri has arrived in France from Saudi Arabia, Lebanese TV reported on Saturday >Trump admin threatens to shutter Palestinian office in D.C. unless it enters into serious peace talks with Israel >Iran UN Rep; KSA “birthplace of lethal poison of Takfirism, cannot underestimate toxic danger that is the Saudi-born ideology” >Egypt-Gaza border opened under control of Palestinian Authority for 1st time since 2007, 5 buses loaded with passengers crossed to the Egyptian side
=== NGO’s and hybrid warfare: youtu.be/ro1byfe5vUM === WikiLeaks: Turkish oil minister links to Isis oil trade - wikileaks.org/berats-box/article Top aide to Hillary Clinton: :Al-Qaeda is on our side in Syria - wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225 === /sg visits Army 2017 - myalbum.com/album/seYvACY7CtIm Aleppobro takes pix for /sg - drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9sFK8tMo4H7LW56WWlpdDRIRnc muh gas - pastebin.com/cDL3mv0w === Thread reminder to watch Threads. vimeo.com/18781528
huh, so they are going for the kotel. What forces do you suppose ISIS has in the desert, i cant imagine much, most of them got back to Abu Kamal i suppose
Bentley Turner
yeah I guess they'll be crushed relatively fast >inb4 "sleeper cells in Sukhna"
Owen Watson
Tiger Desert Benis
Oliver Walker
There are prbly few underground complexes to be cleared. Also, map.
Gavin Hall
Weird
Jose Edwards
In Sukhnah ? Why would they have sleeper cells there, sukhnah has been liberated for long enough to screen the entire population, its not that big anyways
Joseph Reyes
Tiger confirmed to browse /sg/. Doing this in padre's honor.
Nolan Watson
Seems to me most of the forces in the desert were actually in the towns in the Euphrates and only went into the desert when they were going to raid, not camping out in facilites and stuff in the desert. Besides the presumed spotters in dugouts and the small villages in the desert.
John Gomez
thanks lad also, about the area controlled by ISIS in Iraq how many towns/villages are there and how much is it desertic\?
And /ptg/ is making fun of us again. ;( >you will never pilot Ah-64 and chase ISIS leftovers Feels bad.man.
Austin Lee
>most of the forces in the desert were actually in the towns in the Euphrates and only went into the desert when they were going to raid Yep, think the same.
Luke Green
Assume deserts as open seas and ISIS fighters as pirates. To supply themselves, pirates needs at least either friendly ports or ports they could enter with bribes. In our contexts, these ports are towns and villages of Euphrates banks. If those towns and villages are captured, their raids will be useless and at best short fused attacks. It is pretty much too late for them.
Regarding bribes, i would assume most will go for friendly ports, in our scenario this will be Idlib. If i were ISIS fighter and had my family, i would bribe FSA in Azaz, they are notoriously corrupt and have great links with smugglers. They can also arrange safe passage among SAA and SDF routes. Price would be heavy, but this would be safest way for this.
Josiah Gomez
>mfw I realize we will never do it IRL
Ayden Miller
When everything went wrong?
Isaac Davis
>Assume deserts as open seas and ISIS fighters as pirates. To supply themselves, pirates needs at least either friendly ports or ports they could enter with bribes. In our contexts, these ports are towns and villages of Euphrates banks well someone gets it at least
Joshua Johnson
In the 60s
Cameron Sanchez
Was there a thread comemorating Issam today ?
Asher Harris
Well the decline of american millitary might and politicall influence began in the early 2000's i presume
22 people were wounded in Damascus on Saturday as militants opened fire with grenade launchers from the region of East Ghouta, RIA Novosti has reported. By shelling the central parts of the city, the terrorists in the eastern suburbs of Damascus are violating agreements on de-escalation zones that were reached in Astana, the Syrian military has said.
Zachary Hernandez
they are playing a dangerous game with this
Kevin Thomas
>it starts with T and end with n (4 letters) and that's where encirclement relief will come from if you don't capture it
Angel Kelly
I still remember the time when everybody viewed US of A as greatest country on earth even in Russia youtube.com/watch?v=W7hAo28NCXc
Eli Martinez
Yup
William Roberts
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Wyatt Rogers
do you know some popular songs in ussr during the 80's?
Isaiah Taylor
>starts with T and end with n (4 letters) >encirclement relief will come from if you don't capture it But what is it?
Nicholas Butler
This vid is from a houthi channel that got completely deleted, several top tier videos
also don't get so easily exited hans. >pic related
Hezbollah places forces in Lebanon on maximum alert
Hezbollah said to instruct forces not to transfer weapons from Iran via Syria for fear of Israeli strikes
Hezbollah has reportedly placed its forces throughout Lebanon on maximum alert fearing threats from multiple countries, including Israel, as it finds itself caught in the middle of the latest round of tug and war between regional rivals Iran and Saudi Arabia.
The KuwaitiA-Rainewspaper reported Saturday that chief among Hezbollah's concerns are potential strikes by Israel, despite the Jewish State indicating that it has no intention of engaging in a conflict with the group.
The newspaper said that Hezbollah has issued instructions to its forces not to transfer any weapons being sent from Iran to Syria, where the group is fighting alongside President Bashar al-Assad’s regime forces.
Israel, which has long claimed that Iran is using its Lebanese proxy to assert further influence in the region, has carried out several airstrikes against Hezbollah weapons caches and convoys in Syria.
Hezbollah and Iran have accused Saudi Arabia of pressing Israel to launch such attacks against Hezbollah in Lebanon.
In an unprecedented interviewwith the Saudi-ownedElafnewspaper on Thursday, Israel Defense Force (IDF) chief-of-staff Lt. Gen. Gadi Eizenkot said that there is a "complete consensus" between Israel and Saudi Arabia on the issue of their mutual arch-rival Iran.
CONT........
Ryan Turner
IS attacked Paki police in Kashmir Where's that Poo claiming there's no IS there?
Ethan Gonzalez
>Stay christian.
Chase Roberts
Eizenkot argued that Iran wants to take control of the Middle East by creating a Shi'ite crescent, "from Lebanon to Iran and then from the Gulf to the Red Sea" and expressed Israel's willingness to share intelligence with Riyadh in order to prevent this from happening.
At the same time, he said, Israel has no intention of initiating a conflict with Hezbollah despite "Iranian attempts at bringing about an escalation."
The rare interview by Israel's top general raised speculation of joint military action against Iran and its allies, thoughanalysts say it appears unlikely.
Meanwhile, Saudi Foreign Minister Abdel al-Jubeir said that Riyadh was in the process of consulting with its allies aboutplans to disarm Hezbollahand oust it from its stronghold in southern Lebanon.
“Consultations and coordination between peace-loving countries and Lebanon-loving countries are underway to try to find a way that would restore sovereignty and reduce the negative action which Hezbollah is conducting in Lebanon,” Al-Jubeir said.
Speculation about a formal Israeli-Saudi alliance has been fueled by the election of US President Donald Trump, a vociferous critic of Iran.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has also spoken repeatedly and with pride about growing rapprochement with "moderate Arab states" without naming them, although he is assumed to be referring to Saudi Arabia and other Gulf monarchies.
Saudi Arabia's ambitious deputy ruler, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, threw a match onto the tinderbox of Lebanese politics on November 4 with the reportedly engineered resignation of the country's prime minister, Saad Hariri, who was on an official visit to Riyadh.
The announcement -- in which Hariri cited Hezbollah and Iran's "grip" on the country as the driving factors behind his decision -- and his subsequent failure to return home to quit officially in person, fueled claims that he was acting under orders from his Saudi patrons
>Over 60 Syrians Return Home Over Past 24 Hours The Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement Saturday that more than 60 Syrians, who have been living in camps for internally displaced persons, have returned to their homes in the country's provinces of Homs and Aleppo over the last 24 hours.
>(EXCLUSIVE & URGENT) - a video recording from a civilian in #Gharaneej village (Shaitat Area) saying that an #SDF commander "Abu Talha" have successfully negociated with #ISIS to hand over all of the Shaitat Area while #ISIS retreat towards #Bukamal twitter.com/SyriaGeneral/status/931996189188415489
Landon Lee
>Influx of casualties in Eastern Ghouta amid reports of gas attack
Doctors and relief organisations working in Syria's Eastern Ghouta, near Damascus, reported an influx of patients wounded by intensifying attacks that targeted towns in the besieged area on Saturday.
>A medical centre in Eastern Ghouta said that two patients appeared to have been targeted by a chemical gas attack.
The reports were corroborated by the Syrian American Medical Society's Turkey Advocacy manager Mohamed Katoub, who told MEE that at least 37 people were being treated in Eastern Ghouta for injuries from an unidentified gas attack.
alright i'm doing this because it's you snus town in modern warfare when you want to secure a territory you need to have control over strategic chokepoints (which can come in different form, in this case it's cities that form a projection base from where raids and assault can be launched) as a general rule, when an fighting force is encircled, it should either try to breakthrough or if not possible due to low fighting power, should dig in in order to save resources (because assault are very costly) while waiting for a relief force to create a corridor for them to evacuate the thing is by posing parsed troops in order to secure any gap in the soon to be kotel you're exposing yourself too much and have a very weak defensive line (that is barely dug in) that can be breached by a concentrated force (and guess how close projection bases are located) so by rushing like this without securing the projection bases SAA is risking a reverse DeZ if ISIS deems it worth the ressource cost (ressources are scarce but manpower is too) to bail out the surrounded forces (granted they are in their way toward the east of the pocket) tl:dr basic modern warfare 101
Liam Gray
Now that move by the SAA at Ghraneej you and I were talking about yesterday makes sense.
Cooper Campbell
Interesting. They have been attacking police units in Baluchistan now they are attacking police in Azad kashmir too.
Joshua Hughes
some OC
Jordan Adams
>Did the Iranian general-Sulaimani get out of an assassination attempt in Syria while his deputy was killed?
>Today, it was reported that a senior Iranian officer, Khirallah Samadi, Khirullah Samadi, one of the senior Revolutionary Guards commanders, was killed in the Albuqmal area in a battle against Aldash.
>According to further reports, the Iranian general was injured in unknown circumstances about two days ago in the Albuqmal area, and today he died of his wounds. According to Iranian media, a mortar shell of the Da'ash forces landed in the area where the Iranian general was located, and from the shrapnel wounds he was seriously injured.
>According to the reports, at some time, close to the time of the attack, Suleiman was also present, according to open reports.
>“We must consider [i.e., think carefully about] ‘repaying atrocity with atrocity, violence with violence!’ - Clausewitz
in regular peace time there is no point when the monopoly on violence should turn the other cheek. but do you think there is such a time in counterinsurgency after an invasion? revenge begets revenge and so on. You are trying to create a viable society, to be a part in a political solution, so that your new-caught prey can turn into a functional ally. Is it possible you may have to take a softer approach, even if it means some of your people die? I suppose you'd have to have enough of a cooperation with the locals to be able to stage an investigation, and you'd have to be able to keep everyone on base so that your men don't take matters into their own hands. You'd probably need MPs. Say you have 100-200 such sites to build trust in. That's a lot of MPs.
do you think these things were considered before the recent american wars? I remember reading on pol (probably not sg) an afghanistan vet who talked about his work. His view on it was that they did good, helped out and burned the poppy. But then one night one psycho among them snuck out and killed 12 locals. And then that was that, trust was gone forever (they should have stuck his head on a pole, that might've saved it imo, but he dissapeared into the military justice system without any tangible justice for the locals).