DBS Episode 81

Thoughts on tonight's Dragon Ball Super fight?
Felt a bit rushed in my opinion, but a good fight none-the-less.

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THIS GLOWING FIST OF MINE

Rushed as hell. Total disappointment.

Why does it seem like the vast majority of posts on Sup Forums are always so negative?

If everyone thinks you're the villain, does that make you the villain?

Fuck off and kill yourself you dumb frogsposter.

>think
If he lost Trillions of lives would've just been saved.

This is the goku survival ark now.

Gods of destruction were scared of Goku's power and Champa said Goku's level is unfathomable.
Goku must be near the strongest mortal level at this point, and GoDs must get a big powerup upon their promotion from mortals as Toppo is considered to be strong enough to be God of Destruction and from the preview we see he is nowhere Goku's level.

>no flying
>knocked off edge and you lose
Can't wait to see evil Goku immediately shit the bed in the last fight so that we get a hamfisted Gohan-arc.

But if he didn't do his best those Trillions would have been instantly erased due to "his" actions. Goku had no choice but to do everything to win without holding back in front of everyone.

Saiyans are a naturally aggressive warrior race who were supposedly striving to be the strongest warriors in the universe.

Saiyan survives a near-death experience through extreme injury to the body, then, when the body recuperates, the Saiyan grows much stronger than they were previously, their body adapting to compensate for the damage dealt, essentially evolving their power, the more they fight.

This what Goku so dangerous.

Goku isn't evil, he just likes to fight, and he will save all universes with super dragon balls probably.

While true, it doesn't change the fact that he was the obstacle to defeat need to save so many.

Hes like a giant storm. A huge problem for everyone else but he has no real goals other than being the biggest storm he can be.

For universe 9 it's less about the universes being destroyed and more about them being ranked at the bottom.

Not to mention super saiyan is hacks.
While we've yet to find out how much stronger SSB makes you, we know that SS3 makes you 400x stronger, and SSB is more than that.

His bass form is already on the levels of high class warriors probably deserving of being in this tournament, so with SSB it's probably just absurd.

Could someone resize this by 828 pixels wide by 315 pixels tall? Or is it too big that it would lose the quality?

Goku is not evil, just reckless.

There is a true villain and it's not Goku

Please state exactly what Goku should have done given the nature of the scenario then.

It's easy to be a critic, it's far harder to come up with a solution.

Pretty hype, goku has clearly been practicing the SSJ Blue Kaio-Ken

I'm glad poses are back

Just open it in paint or the online photoshop?

Who

the hell is going on with the kaioshins

over kaiokend himself to much without rushing his victory with a beam struggle.

Probably Grand Priest

Give it his all while taking a fall at the last second.

maybe show some concern that he is in a dilema where he either loses without being noticed and saves trillions of lives, or he fights to his limit not to be seen as a cheater and hence making zeno erase all universes.
He just doesn't seem to give a shit. thats the problem. The furry was right. he seems to be the villain this time around.

That's deliberately losing. He was told if he deliberately lost, then several universes would be immediately erased.

so next week there will be no episode?

Why is Resurrection F treated as some kind of filler?

>strongest mortal level
Goku has a low powerlevel but he has a low ningen level.

Why is everyone saying that Goku doomed the universes? If Zen-Oh was planning to eliminate all of the weaker universes before the tournament, then Goku is actually a hero having given them all a fighting chance.

He started round by intentionally feeding him damage to make him stronger and no one complained about that.

That seems far more like "intentionally losing" simply fighting normally in kaioken without trying to end it in a single attack.

How destroyed is Chi-Chi's pussy?

Because it's some kind of filler.

Reposting new names

Universe 1
Creator: Anato
Destructor: Iwen
Angel: ???

Universe 2
Creator: ???
Destructor: Jerez
Angel: ???

Universe 3
Creator: Ea
Destructor: Mosco
Angel: ???

Universe 4
Creator: Kuru
Destructor: Quitela
Angel: ???

Universe 5
Creator: Oguma
Destructor: Arak
Angel: ???

Universe 6
Creator: ???
Destructor: Champa
Angel: Vados

Universe 7
Creator: Shin
Destructor: Beers
Angel: Whis

Universe 8
Creator: Iru
Destructor: Liquir
Angel: ???

Universe 9
Creator: Rou
Destructor: Sidra
Angel: ???

Universe 10
Creator: Gowasu
Destructor: Rumoosh
Angel: ???

Universe 11
Creator: Kai
Destructor: Vermoud
Angel: ???

Universe 12
Creator: Agu
Destructor: Geen
Angel: ???

So.... the problem is that he as a martial artist enjoys the martial arts? That's his big crime?

B-but Akira Toriyama wrote it?

>yfw Zen-chan and Zen-chan only pretended to agree with blue furry because they knew Goku was going to win anyway

If Cell didn't try absorb all those people and kill Trunks and try to suicide bomb the world after losing, would he really be a villain?

He's stated later as not really caring about destroying the world, he just wants to get everyone to fight him full power.

Could Goku be pulling a Cell and asking Zeno to pretend to destroy the lost universes?

The plot doesnt make any sense, why wasnt Frieza's soul erased?

>Leave Universe 7 to us
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You mean recycled? Maybe there is a long line.

Probably with a shit ton of staff help.
Guys senile as fuck at this point.

as things stand? probably the grand priest.

remember how the situation stands:

>The GP is the one who talks for zeno, who doesnt say he is the one that gave the yes for the tourney ,and the universe destruction rule.

>four to five universes are exempt from entering, who doesnt say those are the most manipulable and weakest of the universes with the exception of the surviving universe?

>and here's the kicker: we know that when a GoD dies, its assistant angel enters into hibernation, yet here, if an universe is destroyed in the tourney, the angel of that universe's life will be spared.

>for all we know, if all 12 angels and the GP join forces, even the two zenos would be pieces of cake here.

the GP might be playing the long game here and he is trying to conquer the multiverse.

I'm thinkin' Arby's.

Soon.

I know that "Goku is going to be the villain" wont actually happen, but the concept actually sounds kind of interesting, has that ever been done before?

Cell knew what he was doing was Gero's evil will.
He was going to go on destroying the universe and revel in it. Nigga was evil.

Could we see Tien and Piccolo reach god levels since they're always given buffs?

>Tien has his eye described by Akira Toriyama as "God-like"
>Piccolo is literally fused with the first god we met, Kami, and Kami created dragonballs which are made of god artifacts

Leave Hit's donut virginity to me.

You know damned well they're going to have Vegeta win the tournament to protect Bra, request that Zen-Oh doesn't erase the universes because the warriors inside each will be getting stronger if there's a new tournament to look forward to.

And then he'll use the Super Dragon Balls to wish back all the saiyans killed in the past 50 years or so within U7, which also brings back cell to set up the next arc

what if zenou has a dad

In just one series a beloved childish character has turned into an autistic evil douchebag. I feel like Toei stripped Luffy's character and put into Goku's with him forgetting everything. Except Luffy has an excuse because he a 19yr old pirate not a retarded grandpa. Toei ruined Goku's character and people think this shit better than GT let alone the manga? Fuck Toei

Literally last arc...

>Tien
>Given buffs

And Piccolo hasnt gotten shit since he fused with Kami.

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Buu was the only true chaotic evil though.

Frieza wanted to conquer the universe
Cell wanted to be perfect and fight stronger foes
Buu just wanted to kill, absorb, eat, destroy

>super blue kaiokek gokus kamehameha didn't completely disintegrate the furfag
>he didn't even have a scratch, just fell over

why does anyone like this shit again

Reminder to ALWAYS have your dick out for Harmble

>Saiyan Arc 2.0
Whoa, just take it easy man.

Zeno only set up the deal because he knew Goku wouldn't lose. If he lost, he would've known something was up and then destroyed everything.

If he actually gave a shit, he could've asked Zeno to spare the universes if he won like Bergamo did. Or, you know, at all. You can't say it wouldn't have worked, because Zeno said yes to the same request from a guy he doesn't even know, and you can't say Goku hasn't had the opportunity, because he's clearly fine with walking up to Zeno and saying whatever the hell he wants.

For me, it's not so much that he's failed to capitalize on any solutions so much as that fact that he gives so little of a shit about the incomprehensible amount of lives that are going to be lost that it's genuinely hard to tell if he even understands what the stakes are. Like, Beerus explicitly questions that at one point. It'd be one thing if he were treating this as a tragic necessity, but he's not. He's treating it like a game arranged for his personal amusement.

No but the whole "everyone questions if goku is hurting more than helping" thing is pretty common

Cell with senzu been.
Goku not rushing vegeta during buu ark
Goku not rushing buu Since according to him he could've beaten him Honestly I kinda call bs on this
Goku not rushing kid buu
Goku causing pretty much the last arc to happen.
Little diffrent, thats someone evil being goku, not goku becoming evil.

>Implying it wont be Goku telling Zeno to lie about the universal destruction so that everyone would do their best.
>Implying Goku wont use the wish, with all the universes still safe, to bring back king kai to life.

>Can't kill in the tournament
>It's in a void so time might not even flow right there

I-I'm worried about Hit guys...

what if zeno destroys the universes to create a cluster of weak universes that could rival the stronger ones?

Where were for the last few 8 or 9 months

>what if
It's called Akira, you know

Why did hell look completely different in the series and the movie?

does the winner even get the super dragon balls?

Cell was willing to blow up the earth because he got asspained over the fact that he was losing to Gohan

Wow, it's almost like he was fighting the strongest guy in U9.

Everyone knows he's just destined to job to the new stronger rival in order to establish how strong the new stronger rival is. It's the cycle of the rival. Tien, Piccolo, and Vegeta already went through it and now it's Hit's turn.

Ningen level IS NOT POWERLEVELS!


Everyone in the episode said Goku had a low as shit ningen level despite being really strong.

>悪即斬
Is Toppo the Saito Hajime of our generation?

does dragon ball have good enough writing for this

Cell was more than smart enough to know what he was doing was evil.

Did Vegeta deserve to be able to turn into a Super Saiyan God?

Leave Goku to us.

could part of zamatsu have spilled into goku and zeno?
making them partly evil?

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He never becomes one.

Better question is, is Vegeta allowed to skip transformations? He jumped from Super Saiyan 2 to Super Saiyan Blue.

Piccolo was ruled out after Cell Saga but Tien however is useful in every arc

>wins first the tournament
>stalls Drum, uses the Mafuba to sacrifice himself
>fights/stalls Nappa, sacrifices himself
>not on Namek, scratch that one
>fights the androids but gets his ass kicked
>redemption, stalls Cell with tri-beam willing to sacrifice himself so Android 18 can get away
>fights mother fucking Super Buutenks head on, blasts away his attack saving Gohan, stalls him until he's cheap shotted letting Goku save the day

He's the only person who's always trained, he has created the most techniques out of anyone, he has the most unique techniques out of anyone that only he can use, he's the only human who isn't trained under Roshi (he has assassination techniques, he could fight Hit), he has an eye that is called "god-like", an eye that is called "all seeing" (could also probably see into frozen time).

Tien is the most viable character to be brought back by Toriyama of any. I'd like to see him be the one to take down Hit.

It'll be called the Saiyan Restoration Arc, where Goku/Vegeta and probably gohan go to the saiyans and put them on the path to joining the galactic patrol and protecting the universe

And then they were surprised when he transformed into SSB. They were only judging his base form. This exact same thing happened in the Saiyan saga, remember?

>Hillbilly
>Alien
There's a 100% chance your asshole is getting probed

>battle royal
wtf is this gay ass shit

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Much of it comes from him not showing much concern for what may happen. I believe he feels something on the inside, we're just seeing how he acts on the outside. And his mannerisms come og as disrespectful to the gods, at least to the gods that dont know him

HE HAS A PLAN

And that plan is to make Gohan suffer some more, its been a while

>tri-beam

Goku is now Frieza.

Jesus Christ

Kinda interesting that Cell can't use instant transmission to escape from hell.

a chance to see hit just time skip half the people off the edge in the first second

>skip
No

Bergamo said that Goku had a lower ningen level than universe 9 despite knowing that Goku was strong beforehand. He remarked so in previous episodes and no way does he think that he would be weaker than Buu and Gohan who kicks his brothers' ass.

Shallow fuck. You actually believe Goku is evil because all of the other characters in the story oppose him now and call him evil? You should understand Goku's intentions, instead you act just as shallow and clueless as the ignorant crowds at the tournament. You never liked him as a character and are just looking for an excuse the screech "reeeeee character assasination", fuck you, you're the worst fucking type of people to watch this show and shitpost on these threads about it like you have a point or something. FUCK OFF

Then fuck off back to whatever your online hug box is.

He couldn't even touch normal super saiyan goku and he punched him into a giant doubling his ki and he was still stupidly outmatched. He didn't look hurt at all and even his clothes didn't get tattered. I wonder if Toriyama is embarrassed by this soulless garbage

The numbering system is too reliant on Goku. Trunks has that almost useless SSJ 2.5 overly muscled form that's and SSJ3 isn't very conservative of power either. Maybe Vegeta doesn't rush and only adopts forms that are worth perfecting. Vegito never did that stupid shit.

Piccolo trains by meditating, so he's always trained too. Tien's "all seeing" eye became obsolete by the third tournament, when everyone moved on to sensing their opponent's ki rather than looking at them. If he didn't get an upgrade by now, he's not going to. He's just going to fight random losers during the first few minutes of the brawl with the other humans before getting knocked off the platform along with the other humans when the real enemies show up so that the real fights can start.