Does God exist?

Does God exist?

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Probably. Doesn't mean any religion on Earth has the right answer about it though.

I'm an agnostic atheist, I see several ways in which there could realistically be sth like a god:
(1) if we are living in a computer simulation, then whoever is running/debugging it has pretty much god-like powers over us
(2) if there exist higher spatial dimensions than the three we are confined in, and if there are intelligent creatures in there, then they are god-like to us (like the 3D creatures in "Flatland" are to the 2D Flatlanders)
(3) ???
(4) PROFIT

I should say that in both case, there could even be something like an afterlife, if you think about it. In a computer simulation, the process that gives you your consciousness could be assigned to another entity, in a different environment (even a sandbox). For the (2)nd case, it could be conceivable that whatever physical phenomena that give rise to our consciousness are bound to our 3D bodies while we are alive, but can be disconnected from it while the body dies (however, since nothing seem to happen when we are virtually braindead during anasthaesia, this seems unlikely).

Adam didn't exist
Abraham didn't exist
Moses didn't exist
Jesus didn't exist (pic related)
John the Baptist actually did exist (pic related)

no

if you can't tell if something exists or not maybe you have schizophrenia

you're talking to him baby, how can i help you

To me, "Does the universe do itself on purpose?" is a better question
My answer so far is yes

Yes. And santa is real.

god exists in the same place that the value of a diamond exists.

whats more valuable, a seed or a diamond? If you said diamond you probably also believe god exists.

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I do yes.

In your mind He does.

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Maybe. I accept the possibility of a higher power but I don't see any evidence for one existing yet. I've got my own opinions on the concept of God but I'm not going to spew my bullshit unless someone wants to hear it.

no one can answer that and anyone who says they can is an absolute pleb.

he exists, but he hasn't and doesn't intervene in worldly affairs. Ever since creation the world has been ruled by natural forces

Does institutionalised pro-white racism exist?

If He doesn't intervene in wordly affairs, how do you know He exists?

Shouldn't he have a smoothe brain since the creases signify intelligence?

hope so

by the fact that I exist which means that there had to be initiation since infinite regress doesn't produce anything

"I don't know why the universe exists therefore God did it"

It's the same as saying

"I don't know why the sky is blue therefore God did it"

No one can say for sure.
Anyone who claims to know for certain is lying or misinformed.
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Its not exactly scientific, but to the layman the argument of a Prime Mover is as valid as the Big Bang. Personally, I can see Pekka's reasoning as sound; just because some greater being acted upon the world doesn't mean he's -still- acting.

It exists inside your own head. In reality? Not really.

No god is a delusion, nothing about him is real, and if he is real he's probably a nigger.

The Big Bang is supported by actual evidence (astronomical observations)

The Prime Mover hypothesis is supported by no evidence at all

I'm well aware, I'm mostly just playing devil's advocate. There does still exist a God of the Gaps for the Big Bang, though, that I doubt science will be able to really explain.

Yes. If He doesn't, then you have to accept either: (a) the universe created itself out of nothing for absolutely no reason at all or (b) that the universal is eternal and there's an infinite regress of casual physical events stretching back indefinitely. Both of these propositions are patently absurd, so the 'unmoved mover' has to exist.

>actual evidence

A theory is not evidence , a theory is the best explanation until we have a better theory .... did we observe blackholes yet

I'm just ITT just to wait and see if BM will appear. I want to ask him something about his playlists.

Yes He exists and He will get really fucking mad if you don't believe in Him and he will send you to hell

No.

Who knows.

Technically, yes, we have. We've more than studied anomalies with gravity in space to put enough evidence behind the hypothesis. There's little else that explains the combination of lensing, gravity that shouldn't be there, and the massive bursts of radiation that come in tow.

Yours doesn't.

Your value judgements aren't god, sweetie

It was real in my mind. LMAO

>did we observe blackholes yet
of course we did, wtf dude

is there any concrete evidence?

FPBP. It's hard to explain. If you watch the recent interviews with Jim Carrey, you can tell he's over halfway there.

That is a no then

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He does. What I don't understand is why people care about Society if there is no God. Why care if your life doesn't exist after you die?

>He does. What I don't understand is why people care about Society if there is no God. Why care if your life doesn't exist after you die?

...and yet majority atheist countries have extremely low rates of crime, which is strong evidence that people don't need Gods in order to care about society

That's called depression. Yes, you heard right. Some people realize the meaning of life and how it is almost completely pointless. Once you grasp this fundamental idea, you begin to realize more and more what it is to exist. It's depressing, but you'll move on from childish things.

That article has nothing to do with black holes. Yes, we're still trying to figure out the relationship between matter and antimatter/dark matter in our universe. No, we don't have the answers - yet. That's what science -is-, you dolt. You can't proclaim that because we don't know something yet, our entire worldview is flawed.

God is life, energy that create every matter. You also are part of and can became conscious part of it. You are minicreator with your mind. Mind is your own Hollywood, it is up to you alone what kind of drama you create. But brain, mind is only in physical level until you became one with everything by being nothing, by shuthing down your senses that gathers data from surroundings.

Watch Sadghuru from youtube.

>your own Hollywood, it is up to you alone what kind of drama you create. But brain, mind is only in physical level

In other words, god is in many forms but in general terms does not exist (the god from religions).

God speaks to others through other people and human interaction. Very subtle.

Stop identifying with your mind.

Yes he does and no he doesn't deserve any praise

ups, i meant you can't control your mind. You can choose what you make out of it. Your life is your Creation

>God speaks to others through other people and human interaction. Very subtle.

How do you know which people are speaking to God, and which people are insane?

I don't know. Do you?

I think if things are pointless the logical conclusion is to chase your own happiness and pleasure. Getting rid of your freedoms in the name of society isn't logical if you won't exist after you die.

No they calculate according how they think the universe works , if it does not work anymore everything falls like a house of cards , the universe not able to exist would be the bottom card

Except that doesn't make sense and relies entirely on assumption. How in the world could you have possibly known that? Typical religious person, barking up unbacked claims with misty-eyes spouting nothing but their imagination.

my mistake, but i did realize it right away.

>very subtle

I read your second sentence, processed it, and immediately threw it away because it's pointless and isn't connected to logical reasoning. You are correct with your first sentence. Purpose can only be found from within. All life is is a response to stimuli; we pursue that next shot of dopamine in every one of our daily actions. The grander scheme just happens to be, finding happiness, yes. Your happiness is temporary, and pointless in the universe, but it makes existing worthwhile.

Idk what to make out of this Sadhguru boi. Is he genuine? Some controversy around him too about some things.

I think this hits the closest to the nail, imo. The concept of "God" - if there is such a higher power, and not just a human rationalization to cope with the unexplainable and inevitable - could very well be some fundamental force that every culture has their own name for.
..Except, no? Science isn't a game of Jenga my man, its the Ship of Theseus. Theories and hypotheses are formed and reformed and worked and reworked until they arrive at the best possible explanation given the evidence. Just because CERN found a hypothetical anomaly given the distribution of matter and antimatter doesn't invalidate our scientific observations.

i do not know, but i don't think that god is some dude in the clouds.

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god is existence and yet god is nothing senpai

It is definitely not a man in the clouds. If religion was to be even remotely precise, they'd at least be referring to vibration, light etc. which actually constitute reality and are universal.

Every religion talks about same thing spiced with own story.

Sins example, things that are subconscious act and push you further from enlightenment

I don't think that he exists and I'm not trying to prove it. Because fighting with religious people is aids and if all religions would dissapear, we would create a new one. For example If you say you don't believe in anything, you still believe in something, but you are afraid to admit it or you are just a nihilist with depression.

You can't know. No one can tell you what the truth is. Even if you choose to believe somebody, you are the one elevating that person to a position of authority. You can't know that they know unless you already know yourself. The only way to know something is through direct, personal experience.

asking other people that question is kind of against the point

i know. Everything vibrates, higher vibration closer to source, or "god"

>Sins example, things that are subconscious act and push you further from enlightenment

I don't see why this is isn't valid. Subconscious behaviors tend to revolve around our primal instincts and merely concern ourselves and our survival. Enlightenment is, in fact, straying further away from that and finding meaning in existence and all things that constitute it.

Occam's Razor would suggest that those stories and concepts existing near-universally can be explained as facets used to curtail undesirable behavior during antiquity. "Thou shalt not kill", "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"; proverbs and ideals that would be useful in keeping an orderly, lawful society.

"i do not know" is stronk and gives opportunity to everything as it is. Believing is death of info and truth.

>God got tired of being alone so he made himself into million parts and is really talking to himself.

>we are part of computing system that dissolves problems like darknes, chaos, negativity into love, joy, happines, light.

Not talking about preach evangelical shit. I’m talking about experience you know in your heart couldn’t have been anyone but God. Nearly every religion holds souls in high regard. The essence of who we are. I’m also in the camp of God having limited interaction with the physical world, but does try to incfluence humans via the soul, hence why every civilization has worshiped in one form or another.

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Why don't you find out for yourself? Even he would tell you not to take his word for anything. What you believe is ultimately meaningless. Things are the way they are. It's not about betting on the right horse
Don't mistake the finger pointing at the moon for the moon itself

yes, i think that at some point spirituality got bad and by ((some)) reason and they became religions, tools to control and mislead people.

You can't really pin that on the juden, every society has used organized religion as a tool of pacification and subjugation. If the people writing the books have an agenda, getting people to believe that a higher power commanded them to do it is much easier than by the sword.

>we are part of computing system that dissolves problems like darknes, chaos, negativity into love, joy, happines, light.

or are we just mimicking it with our computing systems? I hope so, i don't want to be just some calculating equation.

yes

>Does God exist?
That questions cannot be answered.
The questions should be
>Do you think God exists?

hell no

nope, not jude at starting point. By (()) i meant some satanic being that chose judaism and jews to be tools to him/it.

Not every btw, Hinduism and Buddhism are original i think

True, yes, those two were much less overt, but they still were ways to sway people into behaving a certain way. More noble in their approach, but they still used the same methods.

Was thinking lately about this particular question and it always ends in some kind of fear that every single effort and struggle will be in vain

My goal/ daily motivation which gets me going, is to establish a company which at least will live on for some generations after my eternal leave

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so the question is the is spirituality just some controlling method like mostly religions? What I've experienced i can say strongly no.

youtube.com/watch?v=vQ7ZvPghdy8

Spirituality as a whole certain'y isn't, but rather the concept of an organized religion has been historically used that way. You don't need to look far to find examples of high-status theological classes with a lot of influence. I think at some point, the concept of spirituality became muddied and conjoined with religion as a whole. I'm no biblical scholar, but I distinctly remember something in Jesus' teachings about not needing to go to a house of worship to be with God.

i don't think Hinduism and Buddhism can be categorized as religions. They do not have "the god" or "the heaven", every person there can have own god to worship and it is a tool to them.

You're not wrong; they're more formalized belief systems rather than a system of worship.

Redpill me on why God existing before anything else existed makes any more sense than something like the big bang.

>Why don't you find out for yourself?
Well i don't live in India and can't meet him or investigate the criticisms that he faces.

>What you believe is ultimately meaningless
No, what you believe is meaning. What are you trying to say?

>Don't mistake the finger pointing at the moon for the moon itself
Ok you are just parroting Sadhguru now improperly. That is not relative to my post.
Go back to facebook.

yes. don't give a fuck wich one

>baby's first world religions class