Imagine you are in a group. Then the group wants the complete opposite of what you want and want many things to ruin your life. Now what is the point of cooperating with the group?
You may say other groups judge you for being a part of the group you're in but still if you fight with your group for things you don't personally want you lose even if you have the numbers.
Grayson Hernandez
>individualism is pragmatic No it's not.
Gavin Gomez
>Now what is the point of cooperating with the group?
Sometimes, the group will make others do what you want.
Brandon Perez
It is pragmatic if the group wants the opposite of what you want and is willing to hold back your life in its name. You may say well other groups will judge you and hate you but in that case isn't my group just as much my enemy if it's willing to hold me back so much? If the outcome is bad either way it makes sense to side with myself
Ian Morgan
>The group wants to opposite of what yo want You form a new group. This how nations have been formed since the dawn of time retard, how are you going to stand up to a group that wants you dead alone?
Mason Lewis
Not if you are born having almost no status to the group.
Josiah Rogers
Your frame of world view is wrong. Get over it.
Thomas Ortiz
How is it wrong?
Liam Cruz
Because groups will always win over individuals
John Reed
Most people are retarded and don't understand the difference between collectivism and community. What the average retard here wants without realizing it is a system of individual rights with a strong community. That is not collectivism.
Hudson Roberts
If your group wants to ruin your life and wants to form hostile policies and other groups are hostile towards you, what is the point of joining a group?
If you're well prepared you can win against the groups and get away with things over and over again.
Andrew Brown
Yes exactly. You can have both.
Jace Nguyen
Okay, so go against the group if you want. The group will win against an individual.
Dylan Adams
The individual can covertly break the rules or laws of the group The individual can also organize other individuals who are disatisfied with the status quo and want individualism
Christian Moore
I don't know what else to tell you, m8. I'll let my previous straightforward comments stand on their own.
Jackson Bennett
If the option is lose happy and doing what I want and lose sad and doing what the group wants, I choose lose happy doing what I want.
Jordan Hernandez
Which confirms everything I said. Enjoy losing happily
Bentley Gomez
If the group wants the opposite of what I want how is that a win?
Adrian Rivera
You grow up and get with the program
Cameron Sanchez
If the program is against me why should I?
Luke Jenkins
if if if if if if if i f sage. You dont have a single specific anything. Obvious bait is low quality and obvious.