Isekai in Another World

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How do we fix Isekai?

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Removing all the RPG elements would be a start.

We get a mecha autist for a protagonist.

MC should be an adult
While the world can be base on video game in the real world, its should not work like a video game
The MC should engage in romantic activities normally and not collected a harem while never pursuing any of its members.
What else?

It's not like anyone here will ever produce or contribute to anything. Most of us don't even buyfag. So no, there's nothing we can do to fix a dumb genre.

A bitter loser gets spirited away to generic isekai fantasy wish fulfillment land. At first he thinks it's super rad, but he begins to have visions of the things that are happening back in our world now that he's gone. The parents he thought were negligent were actually trying to respect his independence, and are wracked with grief over his sudden disappearance. He thought he was undateable, and so he was too despondent to realize there was a cute girl who was interested in him. He has to watch as his old possessions are sold off, as his friends waste their time searching for him in vain, and as his coworkers struggle without him. Unable to cope with the realities of suddenly gallivanting off, he's offered a choice to either stay or go back in time and not get sent to magic land. He chooses to go back, but loses his memories of the time and goes back to being a sad sack of shit spending his time fantasizing about isekai bullshit.

Promote the good stuff over the garbage

Less MMORPG/JRPG shit menus
More truck-kun

Pick a main girl and stick with her

By adapting the good stuff.

Should have gone for a pair of knives instead.

No RPG elements, MC has no special powers aside from knowledge, people distrust him because he looks foreign and doesn't speak their language(he has to learn their language). Make it a bit like that one shield hero isekai, but without the shield. MC needs to rise up through the shitty circumstances and try and better himself in this new world, when he couldn't in the real world. Ending should be he dies of old age, only to reawaken in the old world with only a day having passed. He takes his newfound self-improvements and makes a better life in his old world, a bit like Ebenezer Scrooge.

More HEALTHY brown girls

That is all

there is even a bookworm isekai...

Weak assholes with lizardgirl lolis. This , why would someone translate shitty edgefest revenge porn in the first place?

How about no protagonists who are shitty lardass failures in the previous world?

>MC shows up in alternate world

>discovers he has some cheat skill that lets him get all the skils

I SLEEP

MÄR was isekai

No harems, real girls would get jealous and leave you if you began flirting with another girl.
No stats.
Lots of world building
Multiple points of view from differing characters that have yet to meet the mc and give them some story or plot too. The world keeps on turning with or without the mc being there.
Make characters morally gray, whether they are heroes or villains.
Don't be afraid to kill off well like characters if it gives means to advance the plot without becoming forced drama.
NO FUCKING ONE CHAPTER LONG CHARACTER REACTIONS these are cancer, why the fuck would I want to re read a situation from another character's pov if all they're gonna be thinking of are praises towards the mc or how much they fear and respect them.
Don't over fluff it, some fluff is nice in between events but too much just gets boring, they should be used as a calm in the middle of a storm not cottencandy-full sweetness and rainbows
NO 10+ CHAPTER ABOUT TRYING TO BRING YOUR FOOD INTO THE NEW WORLD

Fuck off, you're worse than the wish fulfillment chucklefucks.

AND THEN THEY ACTUALLY FUCKED
A LOT
EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY COULD
AND THEN SHE GOT PREGNANT
Maine is the cutest book goblin.

Shoujo has had a lot of extremely successful pre-isekai isekai like anatolia story and fushigi yuugi

>Make characters morally gray, whether they are heroes or villains.
No, go away, there's far too much of that garbage nowadays, your gray morality meme is about as much of a cliche as the whole good guys versus clear bad guys thing.

Monogamous MCs

She's so fucking out his league that it's clearly such a pitiful attempt at wish fulfillment. This manga makes me cringe. At least give him a rance body or don't make him act like such a bitchboy.
I'd rather there be no sex then see that waste of air fucking something.

Is this an isekai comic?

>Monogamous MCs
Non-monogamous MCs but no harems. Mistresses, cheating, bastards, etc. Make it portrayed as a character flaw too, no fedora tipping.

>No harems, real girls would get jealous and leave you if you began flirting with another girl.
>real girls
Fuck off, even though I don't like harem either but I don't want it similar to 3DPD

>Make characters morally gray, whether they are heroes or villains.
>Don't be afraid to kill off well like characters if it gives means to advance the plot without becoming forced drama.
>"my cliches are better than your cliches!"

How about a LN about a chosen hero who's found himself out of work because teenage immigrants keep pouring in from Earth and taking the chosen hero jobs? The entire series treats the Earth people as dumb foreigners that nobody likes, but get tolerated because they all have main character powers.

But user the only moral options are black, white and different shades of gray and the different shades of gray honestly add more depth to the character

This is worse than the other isekai stuff.

you can't fix what's not broken

actual focus

have the MC have an important and well thought out goal and make the story all about realizing that goal.

Lot of these series meander a lot, either they don't have a goal and MC just fucks around with his harem or he does have a goal but he ignores it to fuck around with his harem. Of course you need to have the goal more difficult than "he just needs to show up and cheat the problem away" usually the more famous OPMCs are given a goals that is difficult even with their OP powers.

when writing you have to ask yourself "how does this further the goal?"

How about the mc gets taken to a science fiction world and fights space goblins or something

No, I've had enough gray to last me a lifetime.

She just wanted a penis she could throw into a basement and never see again after she's done getting pregnant. And wish fulfillment is why these things exist, complaining about every single comic not being built upon realism is stupid too.

Make yoraikun focus on this again.

I kinda want a cheat OPMC in the 41st millennium

Female MC's only.

>She just wanted a penis she could throw into a basement and never see again after she's done getting pregnant.
I know, the fact that he's treated as anything more despite his fat below average specs is what makes it hard to read.
She should have like 5-7 side guys.

So the Emperor?
I like stuff with female MCs but those come with their own set of baggage.

Do everything the opposite of what would happen in an isekai while still being in a isekai

Ixion Saga DT was too advanced for his own time, it shitted in every isekai cliche.

A fantasy world inhabitant comes over to the real world.

Ed had a hard life.

That's easy, just make the science-fiction world look like medieval Europe.

>tfw wrote a novel
>tfw realized it was isekai
>tfw realized it would be classified as torture porn
What do I do Sup Forums?

people started "deconstructing" and "subverting" Isekai with Re:zero and Re:creators

note that you still hate them, kinda tells that your post is wrong

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So make something that's even worse than the average isekai? Because I've read multiple things like that and they were all awful.

What's it about?

You're not special, there's dozens of gore show isekais at this point.

You can't. Thus, the nips should make everything like Blade Play so I can at least fap to it.

We let the authors run their imagination
make a enticing world unlike anything one would think of, make it beautiful and interesting

actual writing talent

actual reason to care about the MC
actually using the wish fulfillment premise to its full potential
no harem with romantic subplot taking over the series if you have it at all
creatively imagined and interesting world
nuanced morality with even the antagonist having understandable motivations (I would like to see a "literally nothing wrong" in one of these series)
good side characters that are more than just cheerleaders
actual tension

I missed this one what chapter is this?

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Does the torture actually have a point? Does it actually say anything about people besides "all people are self-interested assholes?" Can the torture be avoided simply by NOT having everyone be assholes?

If not then it's probably worse than the wish fulfillment. At least wish fulfillment has a point in that people want to be in that world. Closest thing to a point of the torture porn is revenge fantasy against a strawman.

I fap to torture, so that's also a point.

I will try and summarize:
>main character suffers from sleep paralysis, one day in a really bad session thinks he sees something while paralyzed and makes the cross over
>no one speaks the language
>he ends up becoming d homeless as an illiterate man
>is caught thieving, has his hand crushed for it
>spends six months as a cripple learning the language and eventually convincing the owner of a brewery he can brew far more potent alcohol than the man can
>main character in our world was a food chemist in the early 90s and built a bath tub still
>becomes relatively comfortable, learns the man who sponsored him is a hardcore pedophile
>ends up leaving after stealing a fuck ton of what the man was worth and revealing the sham
>travels for a short while before basically ending up in the middle of fuck all no where, enthralled by a local glass maker
>recalls the means to make batteries (zinc + copper plates & acid)
>decides to basically play the same game again and reinvent electric lighting with the help of the glass blower to impress the local Nawab
>does so
>life is good, he is happy
>actually plans on revealing that he is in love with the glass maker
>on the night of a party thrown by the Nawab comes down the Wicker Men (the party was to show off the electric lighting)
>basically these guys burn everything, destroy the electric lighting, and kill anyone who knows about it
>they take the main character
>glass blower dies
>turns out that him crossing over is not an isolated incident
>the Wicker Men basically police people like him who cross over and fuck up the natural progression of the world
>they monitor this progression through people fed enormous amounts of narcotics to make them into 'oracles'
>the main character is put on a team with a french and chinese guy (the chinese guy speaks a bit of english and the main character speaks french, so he's a communication bridge between them)
(1/2)

I realize, that's the problem.

He has the bloodline of her family, and their nation doesn't sit to well with the idea of a Women being in charge. And then there's him possibly having the bloodline of another royal family as well. I think you're underestimating how important bloodlines are in the setting, and that's before you even factor inherited magic.

As for having side guys, besides the nation being of the patriarchal opinion (which makes the queen having side guys silly), due to inherited magic the first born isn't guaranteed to be the heir. It could easily create a lot of unnecessary strife that she smartly doesn't want to create or deal with.

I agree

turn him female and you got a deal

well i actually like this kind of plot, but light novels, manga and anime recicle the same story: male MC is a NEET that is sent to another world where some dark king is planning to take over the world, but instead of that we focus in the harem and the girls, there is a lot of wasted potential in this genre, i think Gate is the only one that can get interesting due to its themes and Konosuba for the comedy, but if i'm going to make this plot i would do something like this:
-Main character is an average japanese GIRL, very kind and heroic, preferable blonde with blue eyes.
-one day our MC find a sword in a park in the night, she uses it to defend a friend who is molested by a band of thugs who want to rape her.
-due to her heroic action her newfound sword start glowing with a holy light and transport her into our usual isekai world with elves and shit.
-after walking in the forest she enter a village that is constantly harassed by the soldiers of the "Dark Lord" with high Taxes and the treat that they can take the villagers as slaves if they don't pay.
-she decides to help the people to get rid of the soldiers.
-before they could celebrate that MC save them from the guards, the Dark Lord make his appearance, everyone is terrified because NOTHING can damage him... except for one thing.
-when the DL is bragging about his invincibility and taunting MC she atack him using the sword, and that actually hurted him.
-result that the sword once belonged to a former warrior powerful enough to confront the DL but he was killed and his soul was sealed in the sword, then the sword was sent to our world so there were nothing in the other world who could defeat the DL and he could take over, making the sword the only thing capable to kill the DL.
-after partially defeat the DL (he run away) MC vows to use her power to help people and that she won't go back to her world until she defeat the DL for real and free everyone.

>be reincarnated in fantasy world

>be sword used by cute catgirl

I could live with this

Yeah, guy is living the life.

Have two series be published simultaneously. One is a grimdark one, the other is a light-hearted Isekai. Whenever anyone dies in the grimdark one, they end up being new characters in the isekai.

>french guy is from the napoleonic era
>chinese guy is from the 70s
>turns out the Wicker Men are part of an enormous organization that basically plays international force that burns and destroys shit that comes through
>main character when he first crossed over wanted there to be shit like magic, realized it didn't exist
>turns out it does and relies on things the Wicker Men hide, mainly the Oracles who can see the future/pass
>besides that the 'magic' is interactions through what allows things to pass over, which is poorly understood and not really used by humans
>the Wicker Men keeps guys like the main character because off worlders serve as basically null points, they don't get warped through a second time so a distance around them remains stable when things are crossing through
>the Wicker Men have a bunch of people from multiple other worlds who are assigned to combat units
>the Wicker Men have a Cold War era soviet military depot that crossed through and have modern firearms and a strange assortment of future tech and other stranger stuff that passed over in an armory
>first thing they do is fix the main character's fucked up arm
>the rest of book one is dealing with his first real 'mission' and his imprisonment in the Wicker Men's main fortress, a flying citadel held up by a glowing orb that passed through
>for reference one of the characters that become important is a young girl oracle (all oracles are female) who he tries to get to do a 'viewing' of the moment he passed through, she eventually does and has a stroke while trying to (they're not supposed to look directly at things passing over)
>his first combat mission is basically a termite infestation with termites the size of dogs where he, the chinese guy, and the french guy have to survive and get back
>main character is now driven by a desperate need to get back home or at least discover what happened and a hidden hatred for the Wicker Men for taking away his happiness

I'd want a trapped in an MMO that's written like LMS

instead of being the pro-gamer with a OP build or a timeskip that shows him getting all the broken equipment and levels, but a starting gamer at level 1 that spends the series working his way up the most legendary player

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Increase brown catgirls by 100%

We write our own?
can't be that hard to get those drawfags organized, right?

yeah but what would it be about?

The latest one. I think 18.

>getting people on Sup Forums to get organized and do something productive

Fuck this manga so much why is Maybe disgracing themselves with this blueballing cuckqueen-fest?

Local fa/tg/uy here and I actually did something similar to this with an isekai campaign. I debated between having a bunch of sweaty grognards being transported to a world that worked off of mechanics they knew and being able to exploit them or a bunch of sweaty grognards being transported to a world with mechanics they didn't know or with mechanics not easily exploited. I settled on the second.

In character they knew something was wrong/artificial so they basically decided on 'Gather Information, Discover Why We Crossed, Get Home" as their prime directive. It degenerated into one member going 'I was a loser in the real world, here I can be someone, you can't fucking take that from me' and maximum suffering as events conspire to try and fuck the main party over so hard that they simply can't survive long enough to gather information.

the fuck is this. image search gives nil

>It could easily create a lot of unnecessary strife that she smartly doesn't want to create or deal with.
Controlling and conquering her political opponents with her pussy is smarter and has historically worked very well for queens.

You know what, fuck it, let's make our own isekai. What's the worst that could happen? A shitty Sup Forums VN?

Fucking put in your suggestions, I'll be the first:
>technology level equivalent to the 1850-60s (before widespread adoption of electricity, but after the railroad revolution)

konosuba already did it

it's actually more common than you think

>Weak assholes with lizardgirl lolis
Well? What's it called?

>Katawa shoujo was 5 years ago

The name is literally on the cover but here you go anyways

>primary inhabitants of the world are not humans, but rather dwarves (yes the females are all lolis)

Ah, so it is. Thanks bud.

>there is a race of humanoids where the vagina is located at the back of the knee
>the MC is obsessed over it

>humans are the slave race

>disease and poor sanitation is a thing
>MC gets dysentery
>reincarnates and dies 12 times before he can get past age 3

>AND THEN SHE GOT PREGNANT
Pic or it didn't happen.

I like this idea. Continuous reincarnation where he keeps getting sent back to new kids.

sauce?

>reincarnates and dies 12 times before he can get past age 3
Afterwards mc struggles to get past measles and pox in his lice infested hovel.

No RPG Mechanics
MC doesn't have some secret hidden power
No Skill Absorption/Stealing
World building
Good Side Characters that aren't just waifus.

I'd literally write an entire basic idea but I'm tired. If this thread is alive for 7 more hours I'll write this shit up.

>MC is reincarnated as pantsu

Twelve Kingdoms already did the useless cuck protagonist right

>tfw died 12 times
>tfw really liked family #9
>tfw #13 you're the fucking poorest of all
>tfw somehow survive
>tfw in a complete destitute shithole as a human slave
>tfw dwarves use human slaves for agricultural labor & on the railroads
>tfw #10 was reincarnated as a wealthy dwarf, thought it was time to live, got butchered by political dealings in a bullshit cultural revolution
>tfw now at #13 I know a bunch of bullshit I shouldn't about dwarven political wheelings that could fuck over everyone
>tfw just want to be comfortable and to have a decent meal

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