Voting Age

Fact: There is no legitimate argument for the voting age not being lowered to 16

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This country can't even decide if the age of adulthood begins at 18 or 21, so why would we allow 16 year olds civic powers?

it would take mobilizing that demographic, I think it would work in this day and age

>theory of the nation as a family
So they have discussed how it should be racially and ethnically homogeneous? Somehow I doubt everything she has written

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Jeez I wonder if these "teens" are being puppeteered in any way?

>Leftists are more intelligent and better educated
>We need to let kids vote because they vote left

>mentioned aristotle
>the man who says forced multiculturalism is the beginning of a tyrannical rule
they really have no clue what the blather on about do they.

The 16 year olds won't even have their own individual say on which political stance they have, they would just follow their parents

>voting age being lower than the age of consent or the age to buy cigarettes, lottery tickets and guns.

>Lower the voting age
>Get more black votes because they have a chance to vote before getting killed in gang shootings

This, if they can vote, then it should be legal for 16 year old girls to buy liquor and get fucked by 40-year-old men.

>16 year olds dont pay Taxes
>16 tear olds dont own or rent any property
>16 year olds dont work 40 hour work weeks
>16 year olds are not legal adults
>16 year olds are still living at home with mom and dad

Yeah they totally should be able to vote and be able to influence things they have no concept of.

The voting age should be 25.

Wow, they referenced things.

They must be regular Mario Einsteins.

16 year olds are fucking morons

your argument is invalid

The pre frontal cortex isn't even done developing until around the age of 25.
>I submit that the legal age to vote be to 25.
Checkmate, fag.

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I'm going to need a legit source for that.

We can have a compromise.

>Voting age lowered to 16
>Civic service required to vote

Heinlein would be proud.

People with out a high school diploma or equivalent shouldn't vote at all

Leftists have no self-awareness. They think everyone is retarded and can't see through their transparent agenda

When I was 16 I supported the Green Party. A lot can change in 3 years.

The reason for Republicans to never support it is it would advantage Democrats. 16 year olds haven't paid taxes or started families yet, so they'll less likely to be conservative.

So?

...and not a single one of them knows the second amendment

>16 year olds are used to somebody else paying for everything.

You can stop right there.

Should have to own property to vote.

if you have a waged job at 16, you pay payroll tax

and if you are even remotely independent, you pay sales tax

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I don't necessarily disagree with 16, as some 16 yos are already providing for a family and working.

*zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*

The human brain doesn't completely develop until around age 23 in women and age 25 in men. The areas which develop last are those of the prefrontal cortex and areas which involve higher level judgment and perception of consequences.

You are arguing that children should be allowed to vote at a younger age, however 16 year-olds are still not entirely capable of formal operations and abstractions. They lack the forward thinking necessary to determine the consequences of their actions (e.g. look at driving behaviors in teenagers).

Couple this with the fact that a 16 year-old has no applicable experience in the real-world, there is not a strong rational basis for their decision.

Granted, a lot of this applies to 18 year-olds as well, but we are discussing a reduction in voting age.

"Heterogeneity of stocks may lead to faction – at any rate until they have had time to assimilate. A city cannot be constituted from any chance collection of people, or in any chance period of time. Most of the cities which have admitted settlers, either at the time of their foundation or later, have been troubled by faction. For example, the Achaeans joined with settlers from Troezen in founding Sybaris, but expelled them when their own numbers increased; and this involved their city in a curse. At Thurii the Sybarites quarreled with the other settlers who had joined them in its colonization; they demanded special privileges, on the ground that they were the owners of the territory, and were driven out of the colony. At Byzantium the later settlers were detected in a conspiracy against the original colonists, and were expelled by force; and a similar expulsion befell the exiles from Chios who were admitted to Antissa by the original colonists. At Zancle, on the other hand, the original colonists were themselves expelled by the Samians whom they admitted. At Apollonia, on the Black Sea, factional conflict was caused by the introduction of new settlers; at Syracuse the conferring of civic rights on aliens and mercenaries, at the end of the period of the tyrants, led to sedition and civil war; and at Amphipolis the original citizens, after admitting Chalcidian colonists, were nearly all expelled by the colonists they had admitted ... The guard of a [legitimate] king is composed of citizens: that of a tyrant is composed of foreigners ... It is also a habit of tyrants to prefer the company of aliens to that of citizens at table and in society; citizens, they feel, are enemies, but aliens will offer no opposition." From The Politics if I recall correctly.

16 is arbitrary. So is 18. But there has to be some limit. We wouldn't let a toddler vote. Are you just gunna play Loki's bargain here on Sup Forums like a Jew. "Why not 17? You agree? Okay then. Why not 16? You agree? Okay then. Why not 14?" Etc.

Dont be an asshole. Why are we talking about lowering the voting age again? Because actors got killed in school by government ops? Voting age should be 35.

>then it should be legal for 16 year old girls to get fucked by 40-year-old men.
But it is legal, that's even legal in most US states you brain dead faggot. That's legal in all civilized countries, even most of your own.

No legitimate reason for it to not be raised 21.

>implying they came up with any of this on their own
>implying there aren't hundreds of "volunteers" working 24/7 behind the scene to keep it relevant
pic related is what comes out once they act on their own
matter of the fact is i am surprised non of their "mentors" stopped them before doing it
but than again
Heil Hitler

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Who, asshole? Just because a handful of 16 year olds are adequate civilians they all should vote? Give me a fucking break. The goddamn voting age ought to be raised to 30/35.

>30 years old
>property/business owner
>military service
>associate degree or higher

Not just a stupid fucking age standard.

Fact: There is no legitimate argument for the voting age not being raised to 25

should be 21 for everything

>theory of nation as a family
Wow they completely misappropriated actual racist ideology.
First of all the very word "Race" comes from the ancient "Res" or "Substance". A nation is a members of a race organized into a political and economic body, hence the "big family theory". A COUNTRY is a region of land and whoever happens to be living there under the rule of the government, from any background.
>God made of Abraham a great nation. The NATION were all his descendants, a big family.

There is NO SUCH THING as a multicultural "nation". It is an abuse of language to say so. Even using the word "RACE" at all explicitly denotes SUBSTANTIAL (literally) DIFFERENCES between the groups.

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I just thought the same

Aristotles nicomachean ethics about the state are fiercely authoritarian, with society providing little room for individuality beyond the choice of a functionality within said society (and for most not even that - if your father was a fisher you're probably gonna be a fisher too).

The nation as a "family" is not a discussion about a wholesome unity of friendly, supportive individuals, it's a discussion about the state as a well oiled machine, where the life of the smaller parts has to provide a use that carries over into the bigger picture. This is especially true for military service.

What do these idiots think life in ancient greece looked like?

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A similar system was tried numerous times in history, and it always went to the shitter. Lower class, poor people may be fucking stupid, but they are a necessary cog in your country. Making them irrelevant is fated to fuck up.

ahahahaha holy shit they're retards. raise it to 25.

It should just be if you're net positive in taxes vs entitlements. Only the real leeches are disqualified in that system.

this
in most western countries you aren't even fully legally responsible until you hit 21
shit doesn't compute

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Bull. Fucking. Shit.

Voting age should be abolished.

Instead, just bring a pay stub proving you have a full time job.

Retard children, hood rats, or man babies have no place in politics

>some teenagers referenced shit they read on wikipedia
>WOW DEY SO SMARTE!
I can't fuckin believe Americans are this stupid.

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Where?

How can more responsibility lead to failure? Impossible.

Can’t wait to watch vomiting age lowered to 16
> then Army inlistment
> then Relstionships and people 45 openingly fucking 16 year old sluts
Watching the world go full degenerate has been pretty entertaining. I often wake up hoping something to confirm the degenerate natural of people. It’s not like we’re heading down a better path, or 99% of politicans wouldn’t be holding a positions. Hella entertaining

>so far they’ve discussed shit
I’ve seen more interesting shit discussed in Sup Forums in an hours worth of breads but I still wouldn’t let you artists vote for, I dunno, a President or anything

Because having an associate's degree is not proof of responsibility. Same with military service. It just keeps out poor people, the handicapped and hippies from the voting booths.
Not that it's a bad thing for hippies, but you get my point. Keeping 50% of the population from influencing political life is asking for a coup d'etat.

Why 16 huh? Why not 12? Or 10?

>21
*30
and only once they've payed more taxes than they've received gibs

There is no legitimate argument that it should not be raised to 21. Make everything 21

No reason to give gibs anymore.

you forget that these people believe in interracial families

Yes there is. These kids are clearly smart enough to vote.

>you won’t pass unless you vote what I tell you to user and you don’t want your parents to know you’ve failed school, now do you user

>Get drilled by their handlers in the media
>"Th-they know their s-shit!!!!"

Journalists need hanging.

Then explain why police are looking for this guy:

They don't work or participate in the society. Fuck em'.

there is legitimate argument that voting rights should at the very least prefer land owners, but you're too retarded to understand it.

All someone needs to do is read /pol to understand why the voting age shouldn't be lowered to 16.

Okay, I'd get a really good impression of a man/woman who has the criteria I've set forth. It's selective, and that's the point. The only group who'd be exempt from the voting would be the handicapped (because of military service requirement) but we already don't let some handicapped vote. So bam, some demographics are alteady exempt from voting.

My suggestion is kosher.

Democracy is one of the greatest mistakes mankind has ever made.

I like this. But like another user suggested on my post, perhaps money is not equivalent to voting.

They don’t own land. Fuck em.

So how does claiming 16-year-olds are mature, wise and capable of smart voting decisions mesh with simultaneously saying 20-year-olds are too stupid, mentally immature and ill-prepared to buy guns?

Life, liberty, and the persuit of private property

except for 16 year olds being fuckin retarded

>Fact: There is no legitimate argument for the voting age not being lowered to 16
Then you should have no problem with lowering the age to buy firearms to 16.

We need to raise it to 31

With a required test - "Must be able to name 5 supreme court justices"

"Must be able to name House and Senate majority and minority leaders"

I figure this will eliminate 95% of Democrats and 50% of Republicans

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I think it should be raised to 25. The human brain isn't fully developed until that age.

Yes, because then only people who have hit the "real world" could vote. In fact, maybe we should make it so you have to have paid a minimum amount in taxes this year to vote, like how you used to have to own land (that rule would now be outdated as most people are not farmers.)

On one hand, that would encourage the government to favor the interests of people who are already successful. On the other hand, nature rewards right action; there are general principles that people follow to be successful, like temperance and hard work. Maybe it is a good thing for the government to be controlled by and biased in the favor of the people who behave in those ways.

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dude you are on an image board...what the fuck?

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FPBP

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Your generation is confused by signs on the bathroom doors, and eat laundry detergent for fun. You're barely qualified to make decisions regarding the rest of your afternoon, let alone make decisions which would affect the nation and the world. That's why we corral your kind and give you babysitters.

You just kill anyone who doesn't meet the requirements, quit being obstinate.

Yes there is. That's letting kids vote. If anything it should be raised, with a mandatory written test that must be passed to vote

it's a precaution, so that, indeed, there's no more gibs
if some "good soul" someday decides to be generous and to reinstate gibs, the ones receiving it start losing their voting rights, end up sloshing in their own shit like each time savage animals are fed, but can't make it so the situation lasts by voting for leftists
instead, decent people get fed up of the leeches, vote to stop gibsing gibs, and all is well that ends well, thanks to said precaution

>163485601
thatd be stupid
>thatd be like lowering the fuckable age to like 3 or 2 or something
stupid ass, 18 was when you wehere supposed to have your shit together and a house. not living with your parents until 18 going to faggoty high school, which teaches nothing. is no higher education.

Wew, it's almost like they're reading from a script or something?

anddd
16 year olds are dumbasses, in world affairs, havent even got their own shit together yet.
sure you can have kids, SURE. but like, idk your all dumbasses. hows about that

>16 years old can google
> they should be allowed to vote.
Ok bro

Apart from teens being fucking idiots.

>fags spend 2y under a government "community organizer" spreading poz and gibs
Eeeh, I dunno man. If it was military service, maybe.

thats really fucking stupid and if you want trump to win 2020 never talk about this again.

>16 y/o
>knowing anything about politics
LMAO they don't even know shit about pussy why even let them vote anyways?

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lemme know when one of them references the federalist or anti-federalist papers

Make the voting age 26.

She means that we should change the voting age for men to 35 and for women 45, right?

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when 51% of the population is 16 years old. that's sorta kinda how the majority/minority thing works

>Aristotle's theory of the state

So they want an ethnostate?

This isn't one of those things where shitlibs can go "y-y-you just don't understand!" when people say no. I was indeed 16 once, and I was fucking retarded at that age. My parents were 16 once, and they too said that they were retarded at that age. There will be no convincing people that 16 year olds aren't retarded.

easy fix get based children to vote only age 3-6 no one older than 6 years old are allowed to vote

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Giving teens the right to vote.

Yes I do not see this backfiring in any way.

Matter of fact, I think the voting age should be raised instead to 20.

18 year olds are right in the "Oh my god I am a adult holy shit I can do whatever I want" phase and coping with it. It's a time when you really start testing the limits. And still immature with no real experience in life. 20 seems more reasonable as then you have had 2 more years to let it sink in, perhaps found a job.

>santa claus is now president

Voting is fake and gay

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