Savescumming Save-state Load Video Games Sony Emulation

Does Sup Forums abuse quick-saving/loading in video games?

"ALL THE WAY ON THE 78th FLOOR! NO MATCH FOR ME!!!"

Depends on the game.
I do it a lot for RPGs for conveniences sake

Savescumming a Hitman level makes me feel dirty though. If I get spotted or someone finds a body I restart the whole thing.

Only before boss when it's tediously long to return after death.

In Max Payne.

Absolutely. If you die, there's no reason to backtrack all the way back to where you were when you can just press a single button. People hate "savescumming" because they're jealous they don't have the mental capacity for saving time.

>abusing a feature that's outright given to you with no consequence
Why do people think like this at all?

Yes.

it was just a spooky scary story? GAY i was seriously hoping for some full story like that it could of gone a step further, with him slowly getting closer. maybe getting stuck in a time loop where right as he hits the ground it forces the wind out him, making him yell replay. so instead of just falling forever, hes forever trapped replaying the sensation of his organs and bones crushing and snapping. then instead of wishing he wasnt going to die, he`d be in the loop of wishing to die

>prince of persia.webm

Only if I'm really feeling the heat.

THROW YOURSELF BACKWARDS

Don't see much reason to care how other people prefer to play single-player games

Do what you think's most fun

Is that the tower in Final Fantasy VI?

>he keeps reverting to his previous time state but does nothing to change the outcome

Jump off and onto the roof? Jump back and down to the platform that isn't falling?

I hate anime.

That's stupid, he has enough time to jump off.

Define "abuse"

If I'm playing a game with a limited amount of lives or continues, I'll save state at the beginning of a level, maybe. If there's an enemy or encounter or boss or something deep into a level and I have to go through the whole level again just to get mollywhopped by him a third or fourth time, I'll probably save state right before it. But I don't save state every 10 or 15 seconds while playing a game.

The platform is breaking away and falling as soon as he's sent back.

There's nothing that stops him from jumping.

There's still plenty of time to, I don't know, take one fucking step to the right and tumble onto the roof, or tumble back down the stairs.

You only need a split second, if he wasn't such a gibbering retard he'd be able to do that.

>chinese construction quality

The platform is falling away from the building as soon as he's sent back. The length of stairs he would fall back on is crumbling away from the building as well.

He can still try to trow himself on the lower platform. He has infinite tries but he's not even trying.

>Abuse
No but I do quicksave like a motherfucker in any modern game because at any point it could bug out or just CTD for no reason.
I also quicksave in porn games to see the lose scene and then reload

That's at least a 15 or 20 foot leap on something that's crumbling and falling away. He's in a no win situation, that's the entire point of the story. You're just a big dummy thinking you'd do any better.

If it's how the game is designed, such as Fallout, TES, or Pokemon, then absolutely. It really kills the experience for me and I usually avoid those games altogether because they are made with savescumming in mind.

Dark Souls games are a perfect example of saving and death done right.

15 or 20 feet down maybe but its not like he can't prepare for the jump before it falls to far to the side. The point is that he's not even trying.

Yes. I try not to do it with emulation though since it's addictive and often ruins the game for me. It's really tempting though. I do it with PC games all the time though, no regrets.

In the first few frames of the webm it's clear the platforms are around that length apart. As soon as he resets the platform falling, making it even more unfeasible to jump such a distance. He wouldn't make it.

quick saving is perfectly fine. if you think 'scumming' is bad then don't use it, that's your choice and you can enjoy the game as you see fit and play and beat the game according to your own standards and practices.

today's autosave is pure trash that further compounds the stupidity of shit like a game with one save slot. all it does is lock you down and if you find a game that has a really cool level or moment you wanna play again you have to play the whole game over again, creating artificial playtime padding developers can brag about.

everyone should be given choices and options to tailor a game to their preferences, instead we're all pigeonholed into limitations.

you know what happens when you jump in a falling elevator? you slam into the ground a fraction of a second later, and die.

if you want some indepth analysis, the stairs collapses while hes standing straight up, feet together. he has no spring. to jump, he needs to lower himself, then raise himself. since the platform below him is falling, he could offset some of the speed, but not the other 99% that kills him

The reset point is right at the start, at the split second before it falls. He could probably make the jump. The landing would hurt but falling 15-20ft is easier to survive than however tall that building was.

Why doesn't he go back the instant he goes back

Quicksaves, achievements, self-imposed challenges.

The only person you have to impress playing a video game is yourself. Because nobody else cares, even about those fucking platinums. Especially them.

savescumming at roulette and luck based games

Depends
I use it for convenience in stuff like a casino in Dragon Quest since I'd be save scumming that the slow way anyways

for gambling purposes or the main purpose is to ultimately save time.

in the end of the day it still "cheating" but i live with it.

for some smt games like nocturne. i would rather not lose hours of work just because some random fucker surprises my team and gets a free mudo on me

Nah. Shitty pride keeps getting in the way unfortunately.

Some games are built around it.

Dumb faggot in OP doesn't realize he can control his fall so that he lands perfectly.

People have fallen out of planes with broken parachutes and lived. Little bitch.

yes.

because we just want to get through one more shitty game in order to move on to the next

He's a kid dude, it isn't entirely common knowledge.

>use save states to quick save
>finish playing a game for the time being
>accidentally press load save state instead of save

are you skipping physic class?

He could even jump back towards the other stairs.

Why doesn't he just jump before he hits the ground

That's why you always have at least 3 separate save states and save every 3 minutes on each of them

Why doesn't he just crash and see how bad the damage is before he replays again? Maybe on time he'll actually survive with a minor injury and live.

sometimes playing old games I used to own, on emulator I'll save state some shit like rng manipulation just to avoid having to grind out some stupid boss for 2 hours for a 0.2% drop in cases of rpgs and stuff

thats about it though

Depends on what's the definition. I usually only use the quicksave as the normal save/load and a standard save file from time to time. That way if I fuck up I have to deal with it or lose an hour or three of gameplay.

Its worse when are playing a jrpg for 3 hours at a time.

>abuse save/load states

That's like saying you can abuse the pause menu or UI options

>Does Sup Forums abuse quick-saving/loading in video games?
What exactly defines the difference between abusing and simply using it?

>abusing
Loading after every miss in XCOM.

>Savescumming
fuck off with your buzzwords autist

>hentai game
>play as female MC that quicksave second before raped
>112312 quickload later

kickstarter this!

>about to die
>press quick save instead of quick load
>last manual save was hours ago

They're the same people who think using an item in a JRPG is cheating or that if you summoned for a boss, you didn't really beat them. Any tools a game gives you are perfectly valid ways to complete any obstacles.

I occasionally abuse savestates/QS, but only after trying something and failing a few times.

I use them in moderation, back when I was a kid I had all the time in the world to spend on one game but these days my time is more limited and my game library is so large that I can't justify repeating a lot of content in one old game.

If the game actually has quicksaving built-in, sure. Good example would be the TES games or Abe's Exoddus. In this case the games are most likely built around the fact that it has quicksaving.

Save states? Fuck no. Games are supposed to be challenging. You're supposed to not want to die because you have to backtrack. Save states destroy good classic games that never was intended to have such features. If you use emulator features like speeding up the game, save states or otherwise fuck with the game because it is hard or tedious you're a fucking pussy and you don't deserve to play those games in the first place. You are supposed to feel the reality of dying, you're supposed to feel like something is tedious and by using save states you completely destroy the intention of the game, regardless if the game is "very hard" or not. Good example here would be Legend of Zelda II: Adventure of Link, if you use save states in this game you are a talentless piece of filth and should shove glass shards in your dick.

He could totally jump from the falling platform to the roof if he was quick enough.

Even if he only had like a .00001% chance of successfully leaping off the falling platform and grabbing onto the roof with a solid grip, if he can replay infinitely he's going to succeed eventually.

99% of the time the intention of the game was to waste as much of your time as possible to pad out the length of the game, savestates and fast forward all day everyday with old games.

Yes, compulsively.
Kills the challenge but I guess I'm just a born casual.

I recently completed Divine Divinity Original Sin and I had to save scum at points because there are quite a few sections that will fuck you up if you are going through it the first time.

Great game though. I don't think that save scumming ruined it.

When i can, always.

I thought Sup Forums claimed to not be casul.

In RPGs sure, having to backtrack an entire section just to fight a boss again kills all the fun.

>saves cumming
LOL hahahaha

Holy shit those kind of stairs are specifically designed to stand up on their own, if the platform was to be detached from the building literally nothing would happen
Fucking gooks think steel is made of paper

What anime is this?

eh there's a few nes-era games that I honestly don't have the time to finish legitimately

and aren't even that good of games, but i didn't beat them as a child so for prides sake i have to knock them off somehow

This webm triggers me, he could very easily jump either onto the roof or back to the part of the stairs that isn't falling.