What was his fucking problem

What was his fucking problem

Pope gotta manipulate shit to stay on top of the pile

He's literally the mastermind of the dark souls catholic church hiding behind the reputation of a saint whose legend he crafted himself

Too easy was his problem. Killed him on the first try. Kind of regret it. Wanted to hear that amazing music again.

What kind of build were you running? I can't imagine him being that easy unless your shit's broken six ways to sunday.

Well, he's the hardest boss in the Soulsborne franchise by miles.

Stength. Health and stamina. All you need.

You must have been pretty high leveled to have enough in those stats to steamroll darth sully, my man

Literally worse than Hitler. He's near the top of my most hated character list.

>Harder than Orphan of Kos
>Harder than Defiled Watchdoge
>Harder than Fume Knight

Kek faggot

I don't agree with that guy but he is harder than Fume Knight.
Fume Knight has no pressure at all.

Yes, by far.

What the fuck is Fume Knight even doing on a list of hard bosses?

The only thing I want to know if he's hollow when you fight him.

He hits really hard, i died to him a ton. Ponty is harder tho.

He's certainly not harder than Orphan or an actual purpose-made challenge boss.

I guess it depends on your build and playstyle too.

To me, Sillyman was the hardest boss in the franchise because I tend to play with very slow weapons and rely 100% on dodging, only really using a grass crest shield.

Only boss I needed a summon for. Later on learned that I could parry him

He is still pretty hard to parry, only a couple of attacks are telegraphed enough

Not him but I beat him on my third try pretty easily with a greatsword and I was level 53 ish. Is that high? I never did any grinding.

I didn't find him that hard, but I found that unless you're rocking a late game greatshield like Havel's or Yhorm's, blocking is ineffective again him and rolling is really the only way to go.

He was definitely an obstacle for a while though. until I learned you can circle to your right and almost none of his attacks will so much as graze you and his shadow can be virtually killed while he's summoning it

I beat him on my first try pretty way because I summoned. (What? I wanted the gestures.)
While the two guys were beating on him, I kept my distance and fired arrows because I was doing a ranger playthrough. It was really cool, though. Reminded me of an rpg party.

hi clav

Got him in my first try as well m8

I just used the dark sword and threw all my 30 kurais or whatever the fuck are those long knives called.

Cool design, cool ass boss fight itself, pimpin pope.

What's not to like, this nigga's got it all. Had plenty of that Dancer's ass before telling her to fuck off too.

I don't get why everyone thinks orphan is so hard. Whenever he swings his placenta around there's a huge dead zone like right in front of him so if you stay right up in his grill a lot of his attacks wont even hit. I've beaten BB around 5 times now and I've only died to him a handful of times. I don't think I even died to him the first time I beat him.

Laurence is a lot harder for me. So are the defiled bosses, but that goes without saying. Kalameet is probably the hardest time I've had with a boss in the entire series.

I'm pretty sure Champion Gundyr and Nameless King are objectively harder than him.

What he did to my love.

She's actually royal blood, was supposed to be a princess. But then this nigga came and turned her into a dancer. After a while he had enough of her and sent her away to that place where you fight her.

>he needs stamina

kek, that's one of the worst stat in the game

What the fuck is Dancer, really? She's as big as a fucking giant

Also what's up with the humanoid enemies in the series, Ornstein is almost twice your size

Got him on second try with a great club+6 and no shields

There's nothing hard about him, half his attacks don't even hit you if you're close to him and he's kind of squishy

That's why I fucking hate him. She corrupted the dancer who was supposed to be a goddess. I wish I could save her.

He was just protecting his waifu

1. Pontiff
2. Old Demon King
3. Gundyr

For me

Nameless somewhere around 4-6

They are prolly descended in some way from the lords that found the lord soul. Not sure about ornstein and other non-godly but still big enemies.

More souls=bigger
But you don't grow for some reason. She was royalty, so probably a goddess.

So what's the deal with these niggas? What kind of relationship did they have?

Master and student, one remained loyal to Gwyn, the other defected to the other side

For whatever reason Ornstein later sought out his master and paid for it with his life

Nameless taught Ornstein how to fight. When everything went to shit in Anor Londo, Ornstein went looking for Nameless for help. What's left of their fight is what you see after you beat Nameless

>finally feel like I got gud at Souls games
>beat Pontiff first try
>Dancer and Champ 3 tries
>twin princes first try
>suddenly, Nameless and Soul of Cinder are wrecking my shit, literally impossible, etc.

What the fuck mane, I hit a brick wall right at the end of the series

Did Nameless King kill him? I'm still unsure what happened to him.

wait Firstborn was Ornsteins master not the opposite?

you're just not used to not being able to chug between getting smashed.
and 2 true phases where you deplete 2 actual health bars is different psychologically.

I personally found Pontiff to be the hardest, he's the only boss I stopped and used a sheild for. Still managed to beat him after I figured out his nonsense but I don't really so how people consider Nameless King harder. I got a visceral attack on the dragon and nameless in that fight and both did like over a quarter of damage to them.

It's not 100% sure that Ornie died, all we found was his stuff, no corpse or anything like that.

There's a chance he went crestfallen when he saw that his last glimmer of hope (Gwyn's son) was fucking dragons when he finally found him.

Corruption doujins when?

Never ever

That's pretty fucking cool, I like it. Though I'd really like to know why Ornstein died.

Yes firstborn was ornstein's master, I just worded it badly in that post

So was/is he hollow or why the fuck does he have no eyes and look like a raisin like normal hollows?

Yeah he's gone the way of his old man

My guess is that when Ornstein found him hollowed he decided to end him right there in Archdragon Peak. But, as we can surmise from the evidence, that did not went well at all.

>paid for it with his life
Nice meme. Ornstein's gear is among the very few pieces of gear ever not found on a corpse.

So are you fighting the real Ornstein in Das?

Harder than Defiled Watchdog, and you believe yourself really?

But ornstein's gear is found on a corpse.

>the stat that lets you swing your heavies more than once is useless
Literally kill yourself

Possibly not, since Smough's gear describes him as being the last knight standing in defence of Anor Londo.

Well I did him lvl 37 and longsword +3 so yeah I had a hard time and the fight lasted pretty long.

Dude really was he hard for you? He was fuckin. Easy. Hell get an npc to help if you are that bad. You can cheese his stupid copy in seconds if you can do even a little bit of damage and then bam he's dead. I've seen YouTube vids of kids one shotting this boss

nope

by the time you fight O&S he already left iirc

OK, I suck ass. Need help with nameless king second form. PS4 SL67.

Pretty sure he was into TF.

No, it isn't.

>talking out of your ass

>67

go grind souls. I did him at 90

So hold on a minute. The Ornstein we fought in DaS1 was an illusion, the real one left and searched for his master. He died there, presumably in a fight against him.

So what about the Ornstein in DaS2 then? How came he exists in DaS3 when you kill him in DaS2?

My head hurts.

We killed him in 1
Then we killed him again in 2
Then we found his armor in 3
Don't think about it because the devs sure as shit didn't

Muddied, murky, convoluted.

The point is that there isn't a ironclad timeline for the series, just links.

i can use password. Also I don't want to level too high because I want to invade anor londo.

>The Ornstein we fought in DaS1 was an illusion
No he wasn't.

>So what about the Ornstein in DaS2 then?
That was Ornstein too, abyss corrupted and probably hollowed.

>How came he exists in DaS3
That isn't Ornstein, just his armor that's been animated by the bed of chaos butterflies hanging around the area. Probably the very same one that shoots shit at you during the fight.

Both Illusions.

The one in DaS1 was an illusion to protect Gwyny, the one in DaS2 was an illusion to protect Gwyny because he was already dead by that point. The point in DaS3 is the real one that went off and died.

This, the first Solaire convo in DS1 establishes that time and space is fucked and people from different time periods are phasing in and out all the time. There is no sense in trying to come up with a coherent series of events.

Dragonslayer armor isn't relevant to the question.

Yep and even in DaS3 you fight Anri's Aldritch well before you do yours, so her world is clearly further along than yours is timeline wise.

>bed of chaos butterflies hanging around the area
the what?

*it's a hologram*

But Dragonslayer Armor isn't like Ornstein's armor at all.
It has the same basic idea but the helm and texture is way different. Also the weapon.

I swear to god

Headcanon.
When you enter dragonslayer armor's arena the thing above him.
Dragonslayer armor's soul's item description calls it a pilgrim butterfly

If you don't fight Ornstein in DaS1 how come you get his soul
Checkmate theorycrafters

It's called: reusing assets and disregarding lore because let's face it, DS lore is a pile of newspaper clippings for exactly that reason: to make continuity irrelevant

>Champion Gundyr
>hard

what? I got that fucker on the first try, aldrich was a bigger hassle for me, with all his orbs and arrows making my day very misserable.

OnlyAfro pls stay

>first DLC comes out in fucking FALL
holy SHIT it better be worth it fuck

If you get gwyn's soul in das1 how come it's awakened in 3?

Plot holes: the story

>Mirror Image comes out
>Still beat him first try

meh

...

As long as miayzaki is behind the reigns, it's golden, Dark souls 3 > Dark Souls 2 just proved that.

>FALL
When's fall

2 days from now

like october

Japan has a weird trope of size=strength, I've noticed.

the way I always understood it, Lordran (which 3 takes place in clearly) was as they said, the land of giants. I just always assumed these giants looked like humans, but were much larger in stature. Ornstein is bigger than you, but much smaller than the others, I always just figured he was on the small side, like a manlet of lordan.

All the humans you come across from places like Vinheim and Astora are your size. I thought humans like yourself were descendants of the pygmy.

Dark Souls 2 took the whole Giants thing to the next level.

I don't know, trying to make sense of dark souls is silly, it's just assumptions.

Time is convoluted, they don't have to explain shit.

The creepiest things in the game, made worse by the fact that they were once people.
Lothric's got at least two nasty plagues fucking things up.
>abyssal plague I've seen referred to as the 'pus of man'
>pray as hard as you can and you'll turn into a tree, then an enormous monstrosity with flaming wings
Like, what the fuck.

OCEEEEEEEEEELOOOOOOOOOOT
this boss was pretty good

And I beat the game at 79, where I'm staying until I find out what the agreed upon multiplayer level is. Just got gud, unless the gears bad. Gear>Stats.

He is a lot easier if you kill Yhorm first.

Im lvl 100 NG+. Have no trouble invading any zone

I thought he was too easy, just like Wolnir.
But DS3 seems to have made a point of having a good number of bosses that were more interesting to look at and fight than be ball-busting challenges.
The Dancer in particular hasn't ever killed me on any of my characters, but she's an absolutely beautiful bit of design.