Other thread is very bloated.
Total War Warhammer comes out very soon and I'm quite excited but I feel like there's some big giant change that is gonna put me off.
I remember hearing about how you can't expand over the whole map, and that expansion is actually limited as fuck. What's the story there, do we know?
painting the map sucks and I'm glad it's dead
Vanilla on release limits it that:
Vampire Cucks and Empire can conquer eachother's territory but no other [I assume they mean playables. Both would be able to conquer Norscan, Tilean, Estalian, Bretonnian territory. Basically any standard city]
Orks and Dorfs can conquer eachother's territory but no other [basically mountain holds/dorf fortresses or once dorf fortresses now ork shithole]
Chaos I dunno if they can conquer at all.
Mod on release or close to it by someone in the community CA gave access to (or will give access too early) will make it so everyone (except Chaos due to their different play-system) will be able to conquer any territory
Dwarf or empire? I usually play pretty defensive.
There will be a mod for that
I'll wait for the GOTY version at 20$ on sale
I'd say dwarf
Painting maps is the biggest motivation to play grand strategy
>he dont like to make pretty borders
Faggot
Nevermind warhammer
Where is Totalwar:ARENA ?
>how you can't expand over the whole map
Lore reasons, and it makes perfect sense.
>expansion is actually limited as fuck
There hasn't been any word on any expansion aside from their initial DLC plans.
>some big giant change that is gonna put me off.
Devs have had 2 hour streams almost daily from every faction ever since last monday. You can find them on youtube where they play through the campaign on Normal. It shows exactly how the game plays and what to expect.
>streams
Oh snap, didn't even know. I'll go check it out. Thanks user.
Posting this again for new people unfamiliar with warhams.
Warhammer does have some pretty interesting aspects. For instance while it's usually said "Norsaca is chaos" there are Norscans that don't follow chaos, they're stilly horn wearing Vikings who rape and pillage they just don't do it for chaos and can ally with the Empire though usually they are allied with Kisliv or hired by Kisliv.
Generally the Empire can engage in diplomacy with Bretonnia, Kisliv, The Dwarven Holds, Estelia, Tilia, The Border Princes, and the High Elves. Also maybe Cathay but I can't remember.
Some other neat stuff. Several Tomb King Lords have human cities and their ruled over like any other human land. They consider them as their subjects and only really go out to get back their rightful clay.
Ork mercenary bands are a thing and can be hired by giving them teeth or weaponry. Generally a double edged sword but if you point them in the right direction they can be useful.
Kisliv is a nation that is half Novograd and half Poland-Lithuania commonwealth with Hussars, and Bear riding Hussars. Led by a literal Ice Queen who can freeze men's blood in their veins.
There's a pirate ship run by an insane vampire lord who basically fucks with shit for fun because he is immortal.
Lustria home of he lizardmen is South America and the lizardmen are the Mayans except made up of velociraptors and giant mummified toad men.
The Dorfs built a giant airship, a derigiable loaded with cannons.
There's a cannon in Middenheim in the wall with a barrel width of a 4 story house that's loaded by Giants in the Emperors service.
The Skaven have an underground Empire that stretches the world and everything about them is both hilarious, terrifying, and cool.
This guy...
>youtube.com
... has uploaded every stream so far.
It's about 8-10 hours of total gameplay of every faction.
There might be one right now
I think they start at 8 AM CT
Pretty sure they confirmed regional occupation was only for the first release since anything involving the new world is going to be about colonization. Except for chaos. Chaos exist to burn everything to the ground.
>lore reasons
your campaign is not canon and WHFB is kill anyways, replaced with age of seigmarines
S-stop, user. Don't remind me.
Age of Sigmar is not canon in my world.
Why you do this ?
>finally a total war with unit variety
>warscape engine
What a waste
...
It trivialises everything and makes mid/late-game a tedious slog.
The AI can't compete with a large player empire with neat borders and an interior under zero threat.
SHUT UP
Then they should get better at AI, but we all know they never will.
>Total Warhammer and Overwatch coming out on the same day
fugg
Just get both
That's what I'm doing. Total War all day until buddies are online for Overwatch
I will, I just won't have enough time to play both as much as I want to.
>tfw Total War probably has a better tickrate than overwatch
>playing total war until friends wake up or come back from their wage job to play overwatch with
L-living the dream
That's why I like the much hated realm divide mechanic from shogun 2. Seriously having the entire remaining section of the map go to war against you was hard as shit.
FOTS was incredibly hard if you went Republic. Having to fight off both the Imperial and Shogunate forces was fucking hard and fun. Rome 2 needed something like this, or a guaranteed opposite Empire to go to war with when you select a faction.
>Overwatch
Who cares?
Idk 9 million people played open beta
So maybe half of that?
>9 million casuals playing shitty waifu shooter
Who cares? Overwatch release won't be an issue for anyone with taste.
Who vampire counts here?
I don't think anyone will argue it isn't a casual arena shooter.
The game is very fun with friends though. The netcode is really the only major issue that bothers me.
Apparently theres a stream goin on right now if anyone's interested
twitchDOTtv/totalwarofficial
what movie was that
>denuvo on a total war game
this is gonna run like shit
Me, mainly because none of my actual armies are in the game
GoT I think.
Unfortunately it's not the two regulars doing campaigns and battles. This is just multiplayer battles, but no complaints
It's pretty much a habit for me to roll necromancers in my first playthrough when I pick up a fantasy game that has them.
Episode from game of thrones.
I don't remember that scene. Has the show surpassed the books by now?
day 1 dlc
Last two seasons are the ones that deviate the most from the books and also the two worst ones, if you aren't watching out of habit then don't bother starting again.
fuck
Yeah, in some parts. In others it's still following.
For example, the big battle between Stannis' army and Bolton's happened
Love watching bookfags rage that the show isn't 100% following the books
It's truly funny
Wasn't sure who I was going to play first but after reading a couple of Gotrek and Felix novels recently, it has to be the Dwarfs.
Just hope the Slayer King has a good questline.
I didn't like it because it didn't make sense at times. Some small, no resource faction that was built out of rebellion really wants to go to war with me? They don't even have enough gold to rebuild their capital and refused vassalization. It's suicide but they do it anyway and get scraped.
>fucking spies and shit everywhere
It was entertaining as fuck but sometimes equally tedious. Fun game though, I should re install.
>MA BOOKS
GoT has only gotten better since that dripple of a series of books got dropped
Humans aren't going to live in a dwarfen hold and dwarfs aren't gonna go live in altdorf. They like their mountains.
Season 5 was a bit fucking slow and the dorne plot was weak.
Season 6 has done a much better job of being faster paced when it can and slower when it needs to be. And I think they're taking full advantage of the fact that for the first time, bookfags don't know shit so they're teasing shit all the time.
>TV sandsneks
>good
The only stuff TV has handled better is the threat of the white walkers and possibly Dany's plotline (because that was unbearably slow and boring in the books).
>got popular with the story told in the books
>"NO THE BOOKS ARE SHIT IT'S SO MUCH BETTER NOW THAT IT LEFT THE BOOKS BEHIND!"
I'm hyping for the lizardman/skaven DLC
...
>Skaven
Even if he's not technically the best choice, I really hope Thanquol is a legendary lord. There should be some representation of Skaven 'politics' too as their backstabbing nature is half the fun.
Sigvald is pretty great
>all his warriors carry mirrors so he can constantly check himself
>mid charge he might have to roll to see if he needs to check himself in a mirror so the charge stops
>hovers over ground because it's beneath him to walk
>destroyed a whole providence because they made bad wine
I'm just happy Slaanesh is represented as something beyond a tentacle dick.
I heard the fair lady is actually an elf man that the Bretonnian knights mistook and started worshipping
Any chance of Best (i.e; Dark) Elves?
I wonder if they can make skaven work. I mean, they don't really have cities, just underground hives/nests.
Maybe they'll do an expansion that adds a subterranean element to the overworld.
Is there not one of those already? I thought Dwarves had underground layer
Well Sup Forums?
Not sure. I know there are cave maps, but idk about an underground layer
Honestly I was suprised when they announced Sigvald as the third legendary lord for Chaos, seeing as Slaanesh was effectively removed in AoS and toned down heavily in WH40k. And yeah I agree, Sigvald is baller
Gork
Or maybe Mork?
I was planning on them or chaos, i might do siege tank empire or goblin spider archers mounted archers at some point if i can make it work
This made me too happy.
how is the performance compared to Attila. I get like 25-30fps on Attila.
Is the engine any better? should I pull the trigger
Gork. Best to shout for brutality when you're charging the enemy. Mork is what you shout while you're planning in the war room.
jesus, this is fucking grand
I really don't believe Overwatch and Warhammer or Total War would have the same fanbase.
I'm getting both
Has Teef always been Warhammer Orc currency?
I thought it was just a 40k thing
Nuthin' ta worry 'bout!
Maybe Mork?
Or Gork?
I was worried that they wouldn't know how to do orcs right.
My worries are put to a rest.
>I was worried that they wouldn't know how to do orcs right.
You're thinking of Games Workshop, they're the ones who tend to lorerape Warhammer, fanfiction stuff tends to be pretty on-point.
Beyond on-point
YES
This pleases me greatly
>Sod it!
We don't say "sod" in bongistan much anymore. Bit unfortunate, really.
DEM ORCS, MAN
DEM FUCKIN ORCS.
>seeing as Slaanesh was effectively removed in AoS
Excuse me?
>toned down heavily in WH40k.
What? Slaanesh is the reason the Eldar have been split into two.
Slaanesh has been captured by Smegmarines in AoS. So he's heading for a squatting.
Is cursing haram now?
they've still been toned down.
Look at the old daemonette models vs the new ones
>fuck up the stream in the middle of a trailer
>repeat the trailer from the beginning after starting a playlist
>let people chat for 5 minutes after stream is over
>people start talking about Chaos DLC being cut content
>whiteknight saying "noo! its not!!"
>mods wipe chat
>chat continues about cut content, people agreeing that it is, by definition, cut content
>they set chat to subscribers only
>clear chat again
Yeah, if how they're handling the stream is any indication, I immediately just got put off.
SHINY HELMET SOUNDS GOOD BOSS HE'S A PROPER LAD
It's not even trying anymore though lol
I can't remember but might have started in Gorkamorka then spilled over all other settings where Orks are. Either way it's pretty good.
What's the point then off fighting? Will it be conquering between different Chaos factions then or what?
This is brilliant.
Might have to play orcs just for the events.
look up gameplay, Chaos are basically nomadic armies that erect camps wherever they go, they don't occupy cities. Because they don't occupy cities their main source of income is combat and destruction, they basically need to be on the move, raping and pillaging just to make ends meet.
It's also how they recruit new units.
WHAT
NO
NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
THEY CAN'T DO THAT. SLAANESH IS MY FAVOURITE CHAOS GOD.
Age of Sigmar is not a replacement, it's a different game. Warhammer had a proper ending, even though it was a very bleak and not really happy ending.
Along witht the two better elf factions, in the future, I hope.
>SLAANESH IS MY FAVOURITE CHAOS GOD.
Plebs for the Pleb God
I like Nurgle.