When did people even start obssessing over age in vidya?

When did people even start obssessing over age in vidya?

Nobody cared when it was just a nerd thing if a character was 11 or twelve.

What changed?

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normies start thinking they are allowed to enjoy video games.

Normalfags.

that bell on her neck is just weird.

I want to ______ Marie

graphics changed. When games look this good and there are clearly under aged girls getting put in next to nothing clothing people are gonna freak out.

These honestly.

That's a character specifically created as pedobait to target the pedophile audience though.

In other words, put the lolis in the retro-style games with primitive graphics.

it will have to be at least ps1 era graphics or even pixelated if you don't want all the parents to freak out. but that would obviously ruin the point

Because now those 11-12 year old characters are sexualized and are made to attract pedophiles.

t.neo pro SJWs Sup Forums

>"We are a Japanese developer, and we're making the female characters with our common sense and our creative sense. When you take that to countries outside of Japan, it tends to be very misinterpreted in some cases, people considering it sexist or derogatory, etc. For us, within our culture, we're showing women like that, and we're trying to make them look attractive. We can't help if other cultures in other countries around the globe think that it's a bad representation. Within our nationality and within our national borders, we obviously have morals that we create our female characters from, but within our Japanese sensibilities, we've made those characters the way they are and we're not going to stop doing that."
-head of team ninja, 2012 (pre-GG)

>"We do not bring DOAX3 to the west and won't have any plan change in the future. Thank you for asking. Do you know many issues happening in video game industry with regard to how to treat female in video game industry? We do not want to talk those things here. But certainly we have gone through in last year or two to come to our decision. Thank you."
- DOAX3 dev, 2015 (post-GG)

Drawn 2-D cutscenes.

Japan recognizes fictional characters as being actually fictional.

be

real question is when did Nintendo started obsessing over age in video games?

we got do the GG route

make adult characters that are in fact children

nobody gives a shit about dizzy
she is 5

everybody lose their shit about Marie

actually marie is a legally aged blatantly japanese character who was just labeled as swedish by the devs as a big "fuck you" to Sweden for banning the game there.

I don't think they expected her to EXPLODE in popularity the way she did.

so no she was not made to "target the pedophile audience" because a pedophile, by definition, would have no interest in Marie (about 8 years too old and definitely too mature physically)

she's just a fucking gag character that was mocking sweden's medieval attitude towards DOA, and became popular because she is the only non-titty monster in the game

correction she was 3, now she is 8

But user, have you seen how she dresses and heard what she supposedly does with certain types of men?
Now that's a good one. As recently as the Wii Nintendo was pushing exclusives like Metroid Prime and being fine with 3rd party stuff like Madworld. But with the Wii U, which was meant to focus back on the core demographic, they've been trying to keep their image cleaner than ever.

Young Zelda is better as a character design.

Balanced.

>This much make believe to act as self reassurance

Not a single thing I said was wrong.

then show me the developer statement

They've been censoring the ages of DOA characters out of fear of "moral backlash" for years anyway, all 4 of the original games censored the ages for Kasumi, Ayane. Kokoro and even Eliot

>going into moral outrage over drawings and 3d models
Literally idiots. And normalfags.

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>wahh spoonfeed me or you're wrong

Do your own fucking research faggot, your ignorance ain't my problem.

>to Sweden for banning the game there
Fun fact; It was never banned.

Of course they do, they aren't stupid.

Remember when the UN started sperging out and telling Japan to ban all 2D anime tiddies because muh sexualization, and an important woman from Japan told them to piss off and focus on real women instead?

neoseeker.com/news/16498-dead-or-alive-dimensions-banned-in-sweden-on-account-of-child-pornography-laws/

are you fucking serious dude

a 3 second google search

nintendolife.com/forums/3ds/dead_or_alive_dimensions_banned_in_sweden_norway_and_denmark

eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-20-nordic-dead-or-alive-release-ruined

because they weren't meant to be pedobait, and thus a proper cultural compromise was found.

Now this is appropriate response, to something non existing but i want it as alibi reassurance.

Normies obsessing over every little thing to feel like they are somehow making the world better by going after video games.

It was never banned. The local distributor got cold feet because of a legal case going on at the time. You could still buy the game from swedish online stores like Webhallen. Also loli is legal here.

>When did people even start obssessing over age in vidya?
When video games stopped being a niche market made for a niche audience.

All the people calling gamers "losers" back in the day, are playing video games now. But of course they still need to distinguish themselves somehow, so they try to form the market in their own way.

We've come full circle again.

>The local distributor got cold feet because of a legal case going on at the time.
uh no, it's because of their fucking child porn laws and kasumi being underage

>media portrayals of individuals and groups don't introduce/reinforce opinions that can be carried away from said media

>When did people even start obssessing over age in vidya?
>noticing is obsessing
If I saw you looking at gay pornography, my first thought would be that you're gay or otherwise want to have sex with someone of the same gender. Pedophilia is both illegal and looked down upon. Connect the dots.

>What changed?
Nothing changed. This has been a thing ever since society at large started paying attention to gaming. It wasn't a case of nobody caring, it was a case of nobody knowing.

>All the people calling gamers "losers" back in the day, are playing video games now.
no they are still calling gamers losers now, but in between trashing those people on twitter they will indulge in some angry birds or bejeweled and then call themselves an important part of the industry.

>people in this thread shitting on marie who don't know anything about gothic lolita culture

>media portrayals of individuals and groups don't introduce/reinforce opinions that can be carried away from said media
If you seriously start molesting women on the train because you saw it being done in an h-doujin one time, then I think the problem lies less in said h-doujin and more in you.

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>expecting ignorant normalfags to know anything other than the garbage westerncuck trash games they play

how is the OP topic connected to gay porn and/or pedophilia? Shit analogy.

Drawn 2-D loli will always be better than CGI 3-D loli.

>Pedophilia is both illegal
Unless you start using the proper terms, no one is going to take you seriously.

Hint: Pedophilia is not illegal.

>If I saw you looking at gay pornography, my first thought would be that you're gay or otherwise want to have sex with someone of the same gender. Pedophilia is both illegal and looked down upon. Connect the dots.

You know what, you're absolutely right. We should also start imprisoning people depicting rape and genocide in literature or any medium, since incriminating thoughts basically make you a criminal.

Pixels aren't real and don't age.

Attraction to Marie would actually be considered Ephebophilia, the attraction to teenagers.

The concept of the "Thought Crime" is extraordinarily dangerous.

You criminalize thoughts, you can lock up anyone.

>We should also start imprisoning people depicting rape and genocide in literature
The terrifying thing is that this isn't even an uncommon opinion. There are plenty of people who do seriously think rape should never be discussed (or even acknowledged) in any form through media (likely the same people who claim "men can't be raped")

I mean, a good amount of women love the thrill of rape porn. Doesn't mean they want to be raped.

Media doesn't literally make you do the things you see in it and you're looking for an excuse to jump to conclusions if that's how you read it. Read enough molestation doujins as your primary example of social interaction with women, though, and you're very likely to start looking at them more as objects than you would otherwise.

>Connect the dots.
If you seriously need to be spoonfed that showing interest in a product that prominently features something infers interest in that thing or the link between sexualizing a minor and pedophilia then I'm pretty sure it's not the analogy that's shit.

And this is when political correctness threatens to become a form of Totalitarianism.

The seeds are there.

>characters without J-cup tits are pedobait
lol k

Will neo-Sup Forums ever recover?

Hell, "Fifty Shades" was so unbelievably popular that it got a full theatrical release-- despite literally being softcore S&M porn!

There's a huge difference between simply depicting events and glorifying them.

>If you seriously need to be spoonfed that showing interest in a product that prominently features something infers interest in that thing or the link between sexualizing a minor and pedophilia then I'm pretty sure it's not the analogy that's shit.
marie is not a minor. she doesn't even fucking look like a minor (hint: short adult women do exist retard).

at worst liking marie would mean you are attracted to teenage girls (which you can still say is weird, although it is not even remotely as serious an accusation as calling someone a pedophile)

We're already moving there, feminist media is asking for AVGN's head on a pike just for making a video saying "as a fan of ghostbusters i am not interested in the new film and i won't bother reviewing it"

that totalitarianism is already fucking happening

it's not even weird. Men have always been attracted to young women in the ephebo range.

Isn't a lot of he rapey manga made for and sold to women in Japan?

i think shitposters on Sup Forums just see DOA threads as prime romping grounds to post smug, "morally superior" arguments about how marie is for pedos, ignoring the decades of schoolgirl-themed porn that already exists, that everyone in this thread has almost certainly jerked off to at least once in their lives

Which is why the tyranny of the SJW must be opposed, invariably, everywhere.

We must fight this growing Orwellian Double-Speak Totalitarianism.

Yes, Japanese women also loved Dead or Alive back in the day, because the girls were never portrayed as "damsels in distress"

I definitely have jerked it to Marie but she is clearly pedo b8 m8

I'd like this if it was less realistic.

>When did people even start obssessing over age in vidya?
Why are you fags acting like this shit is new? Eroges from the 90s would take a clearly underaged girls and slap 18 on age and call it a day.

Then what is student-teacher porn? Is that all automatically pedobait too? I mean, if you are watching a porn actress dress up as an underage schoolgirl and fuck her adult teacher, that's exactly the same shit

>Read enough molestation doujins as your primary example of social interaction with women, though, and you're very likely to start looking at them more as objects than you would otherwise.
That doesn't make any sense and I doubt you have any sort of scientific research to back it up.

"classic Sup Forums" was just crossposters from Sup Forums. now Sup Forums has retreated into their board and won't leave, leaving only the ultra-insecure people of the post-gamergate world

Americans on Sup Forums are so retarded.

Why the fuck is 2D drawing such a big deal to you normalfags? Literally who the fuck cares?

You mean the ones where the lolis all inexplicably use cocaine?

I'm pretty sure people can tell the difference between fantasy and reality.

>scientific research
>coming from anti-marie shitposters

you are trying to draw blood from a stone, man

So it's pedo b8 then.

if you consider student-teacher as a fetish to be pedobait then i have to wonder how your brain receives any oxygen with such a dense skull surrounding it

What is she looking at that is giving her a boner?

since the liberal jew kike western govts think they have to control everything in the universe

My boner.

She's establishing her dominance.

I agree, but you should be able to glorify whatever the fuck you want on paper, and I should be able to call you out on your bullshit when you do. You still need people to decide what constitutes a "dissenting idea" that shouldn't be glorified.

Obviously, it's a lot more complex than this and I'm exaggerating, since (e.g.) glorifying war in history textbooks seems like a bad idea. But I'd rather not give up the right to defend any argument, however immoral, on paper.

Also, I'm not gonna make a fucking 5-paragraph rebuttal on Sup Forums when I could be playing DS3.

"Wah, why don't people like blatant pedobait"

isn't that true for like all the doa girls, i thought they were mostly teenage girls

Tits too big.

>blaming liberals when banning sex-related things is a known conservative thing

God fucking damn Sup Forums is retarded, and I say this as a conservative.

When normies became waifufags and started thinking that drawings are sentient beings they must defend.

>character has flat chest
>hurr durr derpa derppy derp its pedo!! :^)

please fuck off.

Only a handful of them were ever underage.

Kasumi, Ayane, Eliot, and Kokoro are the only underage characters in DOA, although as of DOA5 they've all probably crossed into legal age

No but see, short women and flat adult women don't exist!! if your girlfriend is 25 and has no tits you're still a pedo who is just "substituting", duh!

no it doesn't have to make sense, i am right and reality is wrong! i'm morally in the right for narrowing the perception of sexual beauty down to just TNA!!!!!!!!!!

"we dont deal with dumb bullshit" japan 2015

be protected by

Honestly if it's fictional, why the angst?

Shut up and fap.

you're a scumbag if you wouldn't defend your waifu's honor

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their attitude was the same before in 2012, they just weren't acting like they got their balls removed like they are now.

and then you see all the retards who commented on articles about the game not coming overseas, saying "Well these games probably never sold here anyway right??" despite a 5 second google search showing it sold more in america than japan in the first place

Answered in the first two posts.

Look at the game of thrones books and tv show if you want proof.
Books
>all the main characters are under 14
Show
>everyone is 16 or older

You'd be surprised how butthurt SJWs and feminists get over sex nowadays.

Muh "sexual objectication".

They should use some of their money they earn working and buy themselves some better taste.