Bigger Bitch Than Anthony Burch

>I don't hate love in game stories; I just hate reducing love to shallow, masturbatory fantasy indulgence. Maybe that's all love is to some people, but I think that's a pretty narrow view. Ego-stroking is very popular in CRPGs, which is one reason I don't feel comfortable doing CRPG writing anymore.

>I appreciate that people wanted more romance options in NWN2, but sometimes I think that people want there to be romance "victory" conditions for all companions. I think that can diminish some characters. For instance, if Shandra and Qara had their own romance plots, I think some people would still want Neeshka to be "romance-able", regardless of how Neeshka's author felt about the character's place in the story.

>That bugs me. I don't like the idea that you can "win" everything or get everyone on your side. I'm also not fond of the idea that romance always has to resolve with a "fade out" to implied coitus, but that's another issue.

>I'll re-state what I wrote before: I want romance to receive either less or more attention in games. Anything worth doing is worth doing well, especially when it's something with so much emotional potential. But I certainly don't want to go the route of harem anime, which is total fantasy indulgence and gross pandering.

This guy is a bigger cu-ck than Anthony Burch simply because at least Burch enjoys writing for video games. SJeWyer is literally complaining about doing his fucking job like he's some kind of Bernie Sanders supporter that posts #refugeelivesmatter on Twitter

Anthony stop pushing this meme already fuck.

He's right and you're pathetic for making this same thread over and over again

All of that is very reasonable

i don't see why his argument isn't fair and reasonable. can you explain in non-Sup Forums speak why this is objectionable.

nice try burch

>yfw you're not Josh Sawyer

what is this called??

OP is a retarded kid and had no idea what cuck is or why people dislike burch.

Being a tremendous faggot

I get what he's saying, but waifuing is fine too. It's just a different kind of power fantasy where you can get any girl you want to like you as long as you say and do the right things, unlike real life where sometimes they just aren't into you.

He's right, you're just mad because if he got his way weaboo retards like you would need to find a new hobby.

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I agree with him.

The only thing wrong with his whole rant is calling pandering gross, instead of just calling it out as pandering. Sometimes I want a good story, and sometimes I want pandering.

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This is completely factual and well said.

Romance should naturally flow with the story, if it doesn't you get shit like DA2 "I'm hungry." garbage. Also you should either ignore romance or make the major focus of your game romance. Getting little 10 sentence romances sucks shit, especially when it ends in sex for such little effort.

If you're going to put romance in your game, you need to put at least as much effort and branches into the romance alone as the entire rest of the development and marketing. It is either all important or entirely unimportant, there should be no attempt at middle grounding it.

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anthony go to bed

Oh hey, it's this thread again. I wonder who's behind this...

sounds ok and healthy, fuck off
he gay tho
like you

>You're an impossibly powerful hero capable of taking on swarms of enemies.
OK
>All of the choices in the narrative rest on you
OK
>Your health is represented by a single HP value, and you operate as if uninjured until it hits zero, at which point you instantly die.
OK
>Sleeping at an inn for a night heals all injuries.
OK
>That's the only time you ever sleep. You don't experience fatigue.
OK
>An affection-point system represents how much NPCs love you.
Hold up, that's an unrealistically oversimplified representation of what in real life is a complex and nuanced subject.

Explain this you hypocritical cucks

This, I don't know why people feel compelled to perform moralfag posturing about absolutely everything these days.

You're right, calling it "gross pandering" is redundant.

They can't, and they won't

Sup Forums like an SJW is pick and choosy about what's acceptable and not acceptable

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>yfw you didn't buy into Sup Forumseddit CRPG renaissance hype

Don't have to. Maybe one day you'll be able to separate game mechanics from story narratives.

This is still being posted? What the fuck, man?

I like how you skipped a story related one cause you can't argue with it

Stay faggoty, faggot.

Because there's no point in simplifying it, dipshit. If you simplify it, it has no meaning. It's just a game element equivalent to getting a cheevo, totally worthless. Romance is all about feels and shit, not gameplay. Games should either not include it at all to focus on gameplay, or focus almost entirely on it. To do less ruins the enjoyability of a possibly otherwise good game by making a segment of the dev team focus on some half-assed unimportant trite romance.

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You mean how all the choices in a narrative rest on the player character?

Maybe that could use some reworking, too. Who says you always have to be the chosen whatever prophecized to beat the bad thing and bring peace to (insert land)?

Hes not wrong
I mean, just look at any Bioware """romance""" which are pretty much exactly what he's talking about.

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When you get to be as old as John Sawyer is, this sort of thing stops having as much of an appeal for most people. They've lived life and want something more realistic and less fantastical than your typical harem anime. Harem anime has an appeal when you're on the top of your sexual prime, ie when you're interested in fucking many of the girls you see. When you're 40, you're settled down. You've likely failed romance many times. Being able to fuck any girl you want in a video game doesn't represent what life is really like to you.

OP, do us a favor by stop wasting Sup Forums server and take a dose of 9mm to your brain

This doesn't make me disagree with what he said in the OP.

At least he's not Jake Rapp

>Who says you always have to be the chosen whatever prophecized to beat the bad thing and bring peace to (insert land)?

Cause Fallout 3 and Oblivion happen when the player character isn't the most important character

It's actually not SJWs who get mad about boobplate but history/realism-nerds.

Please kill yourself OP.

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Holy jesus, fuck off Sup Forums. Stop spamming this shit.

Doe's he look up porn edits of his sister, if the answers no then he's not Burch tier, I bet he's not even had his wife divorce him over a failed attempt to get extra pussy.

tl;dr: Because he sucks at getting women in real life, he wants his characters to be as big of losers as he is

>Sup Forums is not one but two people

Reminder that this is what people that agree with Josh Sawyer look like

This changes fucking nothing about the OP. What he said there's entirely logical.

>I don't hate love in game stories; I just hate reducing love to shallow, masturbatory fantasy indulgence.

Old Sup Forums would've supported this

Reminder that Sawyer would rather suck tranny cock than make a good game