Don't you find it odd that this is literally cultural appropriation, and yet no one has made a stink about it?
The same goes for Genji's Bedouin skin, and Mei's Eskimo skin. Roadhog's Polynesian, Reapers Mexican, and Symmetras Kali skins aren't due to them being that same ethnicity.
But Reaper IS Mexican. Because Mexicans fucking love edgelords. Also Symmetra is fucking Indian, and therefore a Hindu goddess costume isn't that out of place on her.
James Barnes
like 3 people give a shit about cultural appropriation, is it really such a surprise?
Alexander Gonzalez
Yes. SJWs and social media in general is very selective with their outrage.
Noah Collins
>Don't you find it odd that this is literally cultural appropriation >it's a Sup Forums cries crocodile tears episode
Brayden Perez
if wearing dredds is appropriating black culture, then blacks are appropriating white culture by using roads, plumbing, and electricity.
Elijah Phillips
I just said that though. Please read it again.
Justin King
you forgot zenyatta's Ra skin and Lucio's Canadian and French skins
James Baker
You dumb fucks keep creating this thread and it keeps getting explained each thread.
1. That's west coast tribal art and they don't wear it as clothing. Nothing is being appropriated. In fact those tribes are proud of how much attention that art gets. 2. It's the headdresses that piss them off because it's a military decoration, same with how war vets would be pissed at drunken frat girls wearing military medallions.
Blizzard carefully avoided both.
Michael Sanchez
Why do we keep having this thread? Why are we searching for things to be offended about? Why is it only bad when tumblr does this? Where is old Sup Forums?
Charles Scott
You think people actually think these things through?
No, it's because people haven't brought it to their attention.
They don't actually play games, they have to have it thrown into their face and be forced to see it before they will even begin to think about it.
It's simply that somehow, no one's brought it before their retarded eyes.
Mason Ortiz
The Native Americans and eskimos directly descended from Asians (which is why they look Asian). I think Mei's is appropriate.
Julian Powell
They'd only give a shit if she was white.
Jason Thomas
Who the fuck are you talking about?
Nolan Butler
>being this far out of the know
I envy you, but don't know how you don't know.
Ryan Edwards
>stink There is that work again Fuck off
Nathaniel Baker
Speaking English is literally cultural appropriation.
Jacob Scott
Who cares if someone wears a military decoration from another culture so long as it is not being done in a mocking fashion? If they like the way it looks, whats wrong with that? Id say thats respecting them if anything.
David Hughes
The kinds of people who would get upset about this stupid shit don't play video games because they spend all of their free time sucking dicks.
Andrew Peterson
Could you at least make some attempt to hide that you want this to be a Sup Forums thread?
Carson Cook
I'm not offended I was just curious why since you'd figure by now Kotaku would have an article about it, but I'm glad it's explained now.
Parker Howard
Thanks for alerting me. I'll post this on my blog right away and get my twitter warriors onto it. Thanks for noticing this injustice.
Gabriel Hill
Native Americans couldn't give a fuck. Much bigger things to worry about.
Ryan Bennett
Old veterans like my grandfather would take it as disrespectful for drunken sluts to wear their decorations as party wear, same with the headdresses.
Come the fuck on, we don't want drunken normalfags touching our shit either. Stop being a hypocrite.
Jeremiah Sanchez
It's not that bad, playerbases are making it seem like it's another GTA or something
Robert Clark
Such as not making enough money in the casino business?
Zachary Hill
>OP thinks he's in Sup Forums
Welcome to Sup Forums we talk about Video games here, not buttravaged SJW topics.
Logan Russell
why would symmetra's Kali outfit be cultural appropriation
Mason Nelson
>Reaper is Mexican meme again
Nolan Jenkins
You're reflexively asking "how is this offensive"? Same as tumblr does. You're also asking a question that's been answered hundreds of times.
Liam Young
Oh man, clearly you don't live in a place with a large Native American population.
Evan Morris
What the fuck is wrong with whites and his white guilty? I don't care if another one use my fucking shithole culture in a character or a videogame ffs.
The mariachi outfit of Reaper looks cool as fuck, pendejo blanquito.
Caleb White
I didn't say it was, I said it was ok He is. His last name is Reyes.
Asher Nelson
>it's a Sup Forums threads that are remotely, tangentially to do with video games go in Sup Forums episode Fuck off, cancer.
Ethan Torres
I didn't see it answered before nor did I see anything about the skin prior.
Lincoln Collins
Because she's not even from California
Ethan Brooks
This. That's just that Haida art shit. They're happy to have that everywhere.
t. Seattlefag
Mason Gonzalez
People have "made a stink" in the sense that I've heard it mentioned by the circles that usually trigger Sup Forums
Maybe your favorite sjw hasnt written an article yet though, I dunno
Actual native americans dont care because they're too busy dying out of underemployment and alcoholism
Logan Powell
>mexicans love edgelords i thought the skull imagery was lifted from a festival
Jonathan Martinez
Then lurk more.
Juan Foster
>cultural appropriation
what even is that
it seems like one of those fluffed up terms people use to sound clever
Liam Anderson
It wouldnt, but it's arguably sacriligious
Ayden Gomez
No
It's already Sup Forums material if you bring up cultural appropriation.
Eli Robinson
>we should expect the natives to whine >we should expect that they don't give a fuck Why don't you clowns take this to Sup Forums and decide on a consensus?
Levi Rogers
Maybe. But Mexicans still love edgelords.
Nathaniel Carter
Yeah. Dia de los Muertos. Day of the Dead. Not really an "edgy" thing.
I'm on Sup Forums practically 24/7 and I haven't seen it answered. If it was then it was probably in a general OW thread I didn't skin through
Lincoln Torres
It's another word for imitation. The sincerest form of flattery.
Cooper Lopez
>Its that guy who always bitches about SJWs even when SJWs don't give a shit about whatever he says SJWs bitch about episode
Ryder Brooks
>indians say they LIKE the red man on that NFL team >SJW say NO YOU'VE INTERNALIZED RACISM AND ARE MICROAGGRESSING AGAINST YOUR OWN CULTURE TRUST ME I'M A WHITE PERSON I KNOW WHAT YOU FEEL YOU DUMB SAVAGE
Oliver Richardson
Then you're shit at reading.
James Rodriguez
First of all I don't think Mei's supposed to be an eskimo/inuit; instead, that's a Himalayan inspired outfit named after looking for Yeti (a specific Himalayan legend. The Inuit or First Nations legends for snow-beasts and demons are very different). She's Chinese and there are a fuckload of different ethnicities in China including those who live close to the Himalayan region...so yeah, its more like someone from the east coast wearing a McCree style western outfit, if anything.
Chase Murphy
:(
Sebastian Jenkins
are you complaining that no one's complaining? what the fuck kind of clickbait hole has Sup Forums turned into
Ryder Perry
The fuck is cultural appropriation?
Joseph Lopez
>indians say Oh, the spokesperson for all the different tribes said they all got together and agreed that shit was cool?
You're talking about a disparate and diverse group of people from across an entire continent. It's fucking retarded to think that they speak with a single voice about literally anything.
Owen Hill
It's tumblr and neo Sup Forums speak for getting offended at portrayals of your culture by people who are not you.
Leo Scott
When one culture takes something from another and applies it to a different context irrespective of what it meant to the previous culture. In this case, taking tribal imagery and possibly religious designs or images and making so sick future armor for a Egyptian woman with a rocket launcher in a video game.
Bentley Carter
Very weird, same goes as how Blizzard made a big deal from a random forum post. Almost as if it's artificially created pronlems.
Jace Gutierrez
"same goes as how"
what do you mean? what is very weird?
Brandon Allen
Would it make it better if it was a native american who thought "yeah I think this would be cool" and did a lot of the work to make it?
Logan Barnes
Except that they don't wear it as clothing, it's not religious or otherwise sensitive, and they're the reason why that style of art is plastered everywhere, at least here in British Columbia. There's no reason for them to be offended by this.
Brandon Rodriguez
Not necessarily. It's a cultural thing, it is definitely insensitive to take important parts of people's culture and recontextualize them and so no one but the people could really respond to if it's cool or not. One Native person who think it's cool doesn't speak for everyone, neither does a Native person who hates it speak for everyone as well.
This stuff is bound to happen in time, but there are more respectful ways to do it than slap it on some woman in a game for zero reason. Personally, I would be okay with this if it had some lore justification, but this is just "looks cool send it out!"
I don't know what the imagery means. I see it a lot in Seattle as well, but I heard someone else share some convincing arguments in the other direction that they were images from multiple tribes. Also mentioned that the names were one of a god and the other of a dance and so also carelessly applied just for aesthetics. I only mean to explain what could be the issue at hand.
John Miller
For me I think as long as one person from that culture okays it, then it's fine. Even moreso if it was actually worked on in some way by someone from that culture.
I mean artists make a career of taking shit from their own cultures and repurposing and recontextualizing them. The very nature of many forms of art is to be controversial.
Chase Perez
Ah, you "heard someone else share some convincing arguments in the other direction" did you? There are several tribes around the west coast but this art in particular looks Haida, and the Haida don't give a flying fuck that their art is popular. They're part of the people making sure it is.
The only issue here is that this thread is in the wrong forum.
Jordan Sanchez
> how Blizzard made a big deal from a random forum post
how so? all they said was that they wanted to change tracer's pose too. Everyone else made a big deal about it
Angel Young
>Mei >Eskimo skin
what are you talking about?
Jayden Moore
The generic explorer outfit that could be anything.
John Bell
>Mei's Eskimo skin ????
Caleb Allen
I can see where you are coming from. But a lot of people see "controversial" art often used as a scapegoat for unintelligent and low-criticism/commentary about something. Similarly why acts like Marilyn Manson, SlipKnot and any other shock- band from the 90s became only hard to take seriously, at least I think is an alright comparison to that.
Why are you trying to mock me? I did hear someone who sounded like they had done the research on Giant Bomb's East-Coast podcast write and describe that aspects of the skin are from differing tribes. You're not winning or losing anything here, so don't act like you have to """""defend""""" your shit """point""".
It's not "Eskimo" it's just clothing. Plus, she was in the Polar regions and Alaska, if I understand so there's lore justifications.
Leo James
>Why are you trying to mock me? Because there are enough fucking Overwatch threads and there are enough fucking Sup Forums threads on Sup Forums. Fuck off.
Nathan Taylor
Uh, I didn't make the thread so take your own advice, bud.
THIS is Sup Forums shit. Keep it out of the thread.
Matthew Robinson
The rest of the thread is too.
Wyatt Lee
I'm 50 percent native. We don't care, atleast not in Cali
Mason Hughes
>Join game >DEFEAT >join game >DEFEAT >join game >DEFEAT
Is this game really forced 50% winrate? it seems to be.
Colton Roberts
No, this is games. It's political but it isn't Sup Forums related. It's close-to but not on-topic.
Camden Gonzalez
Yeah and the American is a fucking cowboy. I notice that you didn't mention the stereotypical American cowboy in your post, you racist sack of shit
Adam Anderson
sjws don't know if it's cultural appropriation if they don't recognize the culture i.e. it's not white people dressed like niggers
Jayden Hill
Sup Forums threads can be about video games, dumb faggot. This is not discussion of video game culture. This is discussion of culture culture.
Alexander Gutierrez
That's clearly Clint Eastwood and not "AMERICAN". This costume is "NATIVE AMERICAN ROCKET GIRL"
Samuel Richardson
You saying that doesn't make it true. If you don't like the thread you should hide it and report it. Let the mods decide, but it seems to be video games to me and the mods so far.
Henry Harris
...What do you think Clint Eastwood is?
Western cowboy costumes have been part of American culture for aeons. It's the counterpart to the Indians in their history.
Ethan Collins
Mods let literal porn threads get bumped to 200+ when they're asleep at the wheel. Read the rules. This is not about video game culture.
Jason Clark
>security chief unlocked >he paid 60$ for overwatch
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Charles Evans
He's just a cowboy. They have cow-folk looking people all of the world.
But, the issue is (if there actually is one) that an Egyptian for some reason has a Native American skin with no lore reason and only seemingly because it looks cool. McCree is a Cowboy so he would look like a Cowboy did look like in the Wild West (sans the robot stuff ofc).