Game is complete shit

>game is complete shit
>"But it's good if you play it with friends!"
Yeah well the game doesn't get credit for something my friends did.

If something is only fun "with friends" then it's not actually good yeah.

Playing absolute trash is fun if you have good friends to play it with

Some games are either designed for co-op with sp bolted on as glorified tutorial, or have public community so bad you will wish you were playing p2w moba with hues and slavs instead.
Or both. Have you ever played Payday 2?

yeah it sucks

Have you played it with people who are gud?

probably not, don't care to, it's a bad stealth game

I don't think this is a good counter argument, Games like borderlands and resident evil 5 is completely unplayable without a friend to me, but i personally don't think "anything is fun with friends" i disagree, i've played games like monaco that i thought was just complete garbage, even with 3 friends, i felt like i was about to fall asleep

RE5 is fine solo, the AI is retarded but there's only 2 parts where they can fuck up (the first wesker fight and that part with the lickers on the walkway while you push the carts out of the way)

Anything below professional difficulty is perfectly soloable while playing normally. I wouldn't say those two parts are any worse than playing as Sherry in RE2

Fuck off. Some games were deliberately designed to be played with others, despite having a single player option (which is only there to stop fags like you from bitching about something else).

How do you expect to get the most out of a game intended to be played with someone, with even the option to play with someone, by yourself? That's like trying to evaluate a game based only on half of it.

Triforce Heroes

God you must be lonely

>This two man bike sucks when you ride it by yourself!

Kys friendless loser

the quality or state of being different or diverse; the absence of uniformity, sameness, or monotony.

OP was comparing playing with friends to playing with random strangers.

>itt people with no friends

me

OP never said he was playing alone. OP was comparing playing with friends to playing with random strangers.
Most online multiplayer games are designed to be played with other people who are not your friends. It's why they have matchmaking.

New topic is there a single game that wouldn't be improved with Co op or multiplayer?

Co-op with rando shitters who are too autistic to use their mic is hardly the ideal multiplayer experience.

4 player NSMB. Imagine if that shit had random matchmaking. I wish they would introduce asymmetrical play in that game already

It is the only multiplayer experience you can honestly say was DESIGNED into the game, because the specific people who are my friends are not part of the game.

I think it's like watching bad films with friends. It can be more entertaining than watching an absolute masterpiece but it doesn't change the fact that the film is utter shit in the first place.

Why can't games come with friends?

Payday 2 at release was very enjoyable. Then they started shoveling so much god damned dlc for the game I couldn't keep up. Not just that, some of the dlc was just really fucking stupid and was just cheap cash ins on popular things.

>It's fun with friends
>It's a good X game, just not a good Y game
>it's fun with mods

Video games aren't movies, they have an interactive aspect to them. So no, it's not like that at all. It's closer to this analogy Sounds like backpedaling to me, OP didn't mention anything about friends vs. strangers.