>Cartridge
FUCKING DROPPED
>Cartridge
FUCKING DROPPED
What's wrong with them?
Expensive as fuck
There's also no real reason to use a cart nowadays
The load time argument is null and void with current blu ray technology
SD cards are cheap as fuck and can hold more data tham a bluray senpai
>Expensive as fuck
Then why are Wii U games more expensive than 3DS games
No console game's going over 50gb and even if it does, there's BDXL blu rays
I think maybe it has a lot to do with the fact that Wii U games require more dev time and tech?
>WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
is that what you want over a noiseless media?
Also faster read speed (comparing PS4 bluray to common SD card)
Bluray sucks. Noisy as fuck. I threw away my PS3 because it was so noisy that playing games on it was impossible.
There is literally nothing wrong with NX using SD cards.
>Thinking this isn't just boilerplate legalese they cut and pasted into a filing.
Blu rays are slow as fuck, why do you think consoles have installed games since the PS3?
This. Capcom had cartridge as a format in their trademark Deep Down.
they are small to fit in the portable part of the piece of shit NX
Are they? I always wondered why we stopped using cartridges. Because SD cards are tiny and can hold a lot of data, I assumed there must be something else stopping them, like read times.
No they don't. The new metroid game has been in development for 3ds for over 8 years
PS Vita carts cost 4-6 times more than a PS4 game to print, but Vita games are $40 and PS4 games are $60.
DEEP DOWN NX RELEASED CONFIRMED.
>tfw you may yet blow dust from a carts pins once again in your lifetime
feels like nostalgia
remember the vita's memory cards? I hope nintendo doesn't get any stupid ideas.
but yeah, cartridges are fine by me. works on the 3ds, so why not here. memory is cheap
>Cartridges
FUCKING BOUGHT.
Not as cheap as BluRays for similar sizes.
That actually damages them
Sorry to burst your bubble user but if NX uses cartridges it won't be ones that require blowjobs.
that's sony being niggajews
>It ends up being a gold cartridge
Vita games also cost 1/20th as much as a PS4 game to develop, and they can upscale the game and slap it on PS4.
Though I see what you mean, Nintendos problem with doing this is if THEY will foot the extra cost, and not put it on third party, or consumers. If they do that, it would be nothing but many benefits for the consumer. Unlikely though, Nintendo always likes to make money on everything.
>yfw the carts are extras for 3DS that will connect with the WiiU/NX in some way
literally says discs right there too, what the fuck is the point in both?
aw man, now I'm hyped
Welp that tears it, selling Wii U now. Thanks vee
OP btfo.
I sure fucking hope so. Nintendo stopped doing the gold stuff a long time ago.
Price is about 2x times higher.
>companies have done shit like this for years just in case if they wanted to do something with the property
>people forgot that nintendo did shit like this with pokemon games when they reserved Pokemon Gray
oooh shit
We're talking about nintendo games here
>remember the vita
Nope and no one else does either.
The Wii U version will definitely run on disc, NX is up in the air.
>yfw it's actually getting ported to new 3ds
It says video game discs right after it. That whole line looks like a catch-all category for everything video games.
>uses carts
>third parties avoid it once more
>bombs
They did with WWHD and ALBW, but faggots here thought that was retarded unlike their foreign counterparts.
Knowing Nintendo and how they made bank back on selling cartridges to publishers they won't.
They'll be making money on licensing to even get your game on their system, money on buying the carts through them since only Nintendo can produce them, then money on each copy sold.
Nintendo likes everything to make a profit and not operate at a loss.
I do like the idea of carts especially if both a handheld and home console will use the same ones, but I don't feel like it'll do anything but hurt third party relations.
What if .. the cartridge is inserted into the CONTROLLER and streams the contents from the controller to the console?
ALBW didn't have a gold cartridge and Wind Waker HD had a multicolor disc.
>cartridge
>Nintendo brings back the sexy boxes
As someone who loves buying stuff physically, this is a huge win. I can only hope they do this.
I'm talking out of my ass right now but imagine
>all games for the nx are also released for the n3ds, in fact they're all cross-buy
>you can use your n3ds as a controller as a kind of remote play like the vita
>when you're done gaming at home and you sit on the train/bus whatever, you can continue your game where ever you are
>n3ds synchs saves to nx and vice versa, which you can turn off if you want
units would sell like crazy
>The load time argument is null and void with current blu ray technology
>Null and Void
Last I checked PS4 still needed a game installation.
>Dutch
>loves physical copies
Mijn Neger
Does the PS4 need to install games just to improve load times?
Is it possible installing games is due to needing dependencies that are only accessible from the hard drive?
This is the most accurate statement. Sd cards are very expensive if you use one that are design to last longer than 5 years. The reason why cartridges were great during the snes is because they freed up the 65c chipset and did most the work. Anything other than snes they were useless. Also read times of cards faster then blu ray are also expensive
exactly. sony totally fucked up with the pricing. I'd buy more games for my dust-ridden vita if I had some proper storage. 90$ for 64gb is an insult, no wonder they never sold anything
The Vita was shit for a reason
All physical PS4 games install all data onto the harddrive and it reads it off of that. The disc hardly spins at all after it starts up and it's only really for making sure you actually have it inserted.
didn't skyward sword have a gold wiimote?
I just found that off google, but I am coincidentally Dutch.
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NX is now day 1 buy for me.
It better let you stick the micro SD into a big fat cart you can slap into the system, and have a big thick plastic on/off switch.
Nintendium's coming' back baby, and it's bringing the comfy with it.
This is the real major downside to cartridges. SD cards or similar formats wouldn't be bad but not being able to just mass burn stuff in the same assembly line as every other facility can be an issue. Issue enough, at least, for the lazy ass devs to not develop for it.
Ayy Bruh
Feels good to find a fellow dutchie with surperior taste
they wouldn't be restricted to sd format
there is no reason not to build a custom connector
they do not need to be rewritable
comparing cartridges to sd cards is only makes sense because they're not optical media
that is about where the similarities would end though
it will not be sd, you do not have to think about sd limitations
>not being able to just mass burn stuff in the same assembly line as every other facility can be an issue
Nintendo doesn't have to worry about this because their games won't sell enough for it to matter.
>but I want loading time!
The game fits in a wiiU disk, it fits a fast flash memory easily. the whole "muh cost" is bogus, they already make 80% margin the extra 3$ will not triple the game price like retards literally actually believe.
Devs do not publish games physically. That's handled by publishers. If a publisher doesn't have contacts he may as well screw himself.
WiiU version, retard.
>let me get hyped about a random hypothetical that a random person just came up with
Honestly kill yourself.
you can't do much cheaper than a blueray
sd card are still too expensive
Yes.
But you make no sense. third parties don't print their games to begin with they don't care about anything but the actual available space, and in 2017 flash cards are bigger than blue rays, and faster, and dirt cheap because only a shit eating retard actually believe that flash memories tech is anywhere close to 1990 game cards tech.
>you can't do cheaper than a dvd
>blu rays are still too expensive
publishers outsource that crap to someone that is printing discs every day, for all kinds of different media,
there is no reason to own and maintain a facility for releasing 10 games or less a year
I know man, it still would be a nice touch though
>The load time argument is null and void with current blu ray technology
That doesnt change the fact that you still need to install games sempai
You retards know they just add "cartridges" to that to cover all bases, right?
Capcom's done the same thing with RE7.
>all those fags saying NX is a handheld were right
Apologize.
brand new PC games are on DVD and they ask you to download 40 gb
can you guess why ?
>you can't do much cheaper than a CD
>dvds are still too expensive
RE7 NX RELEASE CONFIRMED
what a retarded post
I dunno man, the macronix order for 2017 had me hopeful back then and then this popped up. I guess I'm just getting excited when I see what I want to see.
Nintendo would totally be the most likely to go back to carts out of the big three the though
I don't want Silent Hill 7 on my system, thanks.
WiiU games and Nintendo published WiiU games in particular never mentioned cartridges. This is the first game confirmed for NX and all of a sudden this is popping up?
Not a coincidence
GAMES WILL RELEASE WITH BOTH A CD AND A CART
THE CD GOES INTO YOUR CONSOLE TO PLAY AT HOME
THE CART GOES INTO THE HANDHELD CONTROLLER TO PLAY ON THE GO
I'm screencapping this
Sounds expensive
at the time it changed, cart were not as good
>they already make 80% margin the extra 3$ will not triple the game price like retards literally actually believe.
This
People suddenly think there's a massive upgrade in prices
At the time carts werent able to keep up with disks and blue ray
But that has changed now, Carts are capable of usage in today's standards
Why? Cartridge is objectively superior in almost every single way. Price doesnt matter as the games released will be the same price as the competitors.
while it's true, the bean counters that tried to cut out more plastic from the boxes and remove manuals altogether are going to be pissed about this
Nope. It's just carts and they go on the controller. You can detatch the controller and play it as a handheld.
Why would you even need a disc when you already got a cart in the first place in this scenario? What's the logic behind this brain fart? So you can have the privilege of longer loading times at an additional cost?
>don't degrade as easily as disc media
>don't rely on a server always being available
>durable
>high capacity
>reassuring feel
Cartridges are great as a secondary option to downloading shit.
Price matters for Publishers. Expect low print runs and digital only for niche games.
>Price doesnt matter as the games released will be the same price as the competitors.
This is exactly why it will matter.
Third parties will have to spend more for the storage, for a generally lower profit too because multiplats historically don't do that well on nintendo consoles.
What this means is yet another no third party generation which will kill the sales of the system. Yes, it doesn't matter if you play multiplats on PC anyway, this isn't the point. Casuals get only one system and they will choose the one system with the most titles.
Or it comes with a cart you can play either on the console or on the handheld, duh.
Why have you disregarded all of the other goods and services listed? It says video game discs right after.
who the fuck cares when we live in the digital age? All vidya can be installed and downloaded. This cart thing isn't exactly an amazing selling point. And this is coming from a guy who likes discs and boxes too
You're a retard that knows nothing about patenting.
this thread is full of stupid young fags who don't know N64 games costed more than $70 because of carts
HD textures being slapped on a disc cause the mobile mode won't use them, but I'm sure they will just be up on the eshop for download instead of printing a whole disc for them