The Heroes games are on sale, and III has not aged well. What is the current best Might & Magic game?

The Heroes games are on sale, and III has not aged well. What is the current best Might & Magic game?

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>III has not aged well
What?

>What is the current best Might & Magic game?
heroes 7 m8, go for it cuck

III

Get cancer and die.

>buying the incomplete Steam version

Retard.

>What is the current best Might & Magic game?
5.5

>the current best Might & Magic game
Day of the Destroyer.

>III has not aged well
Uhhh

>and III has not aged well

>and III has not aged well.
That's your opinion, and it's SHIT

How bad is Heroes VII?

>Buying the steam version

You moron.

Take off the nostalgia goggles for a second. Fucking Dark Forces has aged better than Heroes 3.

why has it not aged well?

Imagine for a moment if Steam had Heroes 2 & 3 with integrated multi-player support with Steam friends or random players. How successful would that be. I feel like there is so much potential there. Especially because even toaster computers with bad Internet could play too.

>What is the current best Might & Magic game?
Mandate of Heaven

I believe that games can be old and good without nostalgia having anything to do with it.
But that's just my opinion.

Don't buy any of that shit.
Just get Dank Messiah of Might and Magic

hell no

Not an argument.

I played most of them within the last couple years.

They best were Heroes III and M&M6

Art style looks ancient, animations are choppy as hell, UI is horrendous, gameplay is about as fluid as a brick, and it's a TBS we're talking about.

its the best of the bunch. Everybody who has different opinion is a necro cuckmaster.

games don't age. A good game is a good game regardless of what year it is.

V Tribes of the East

It's the pinnacle of HOMM

You're just writing random words at this point.

>III has not aged well
is this nigger serious??

Shit dude, to this day I think its sprites are better than many 3d games.

kys

OP is right, III is one of the games that Sup Forums recommend but it's actually shit.

You're just stringing words together without actually telling us what the problem is. Why is the gameplay "about as fluid as a brick", why is the UI horrendous, why does the artstyle "look ancient" and why is that a bad thing?

...

Not an argument.

To be fair, TotE is damn great.

what? heroes is a timeless game

how the fuck do i make h3 widescreen? the hd patch didnt launch for me

tfw not enough money to buy anything

>why is the UI horrendous
This in particular is just silly. The UI is slick and efficient (not to mention it looks nice, at least I can't see how someone could possibly reach any other conclusion), and HD mod/WoG/HoA/VCMI have polished it even further (stuff like splitting stacks with ctrl-click or exact number of movement points available seen as tooltip, many of which are functionalities I wouldn't necessarily even have thought to ask but that are extremely useful now that I do).

download GOG version and HD mod or install Horn of the Abyss

I much prefer IV over III and still play it once or twice a year. I haven't played VII yet, but I'd say that IV and V are the best ones and VI is okay for maybe only playing the campaign.

It looks like shit

Here's your (you)

And anyhow, its (especially modded) functionality and efficiency is unquestionable.

thx m8

UI has too many active elements which is distracting and it generally looks oversaturated with colors and shapes.

Did anyone else notice there being jews with
homm 7 on steam?
Its on sale right now for 50% off but they removed the standard edition at the same time so you can only buy the deluxe edition for $25 instead of the standard which is suppose to be $15.

Homm V tribes of the east categorically the best. Nostalgia fags are just to upset to admit it.

I'm waiting for a homm that is actually given a budget of a dark messiah 2 desu

>III has not aged well
cwel

>Ubisoft are money hungry faggots

No surprise there.

nice opinion fagtron

Are you me?
I've seen people shitting all over IV, but I thought it was pretty good. I think the don't wait for a whole week to get troops thing is why I prefer it.
III is also good, though I'd much rather play IV or V instead. Can't say anything about VI, I dropped out of there almost immediately.
Going to give VII a go today. Does anyone know if it has multiplayer, by the way?

Why are the steam ones hated?

>there will never be a new good heroes game
>there will certainly never be a new heroes game that takes the series to the next level

VII has local and online multiplayer (the latter only working half the time) but good luck finding anybody to play with.

Steam's Heroes 6&7 are hated because of Uplay shit. Heroes 3 HD on Steam is hated because it's missing both expansion packs with arguably worse looking redrawn sprites for more money than the GoG version that has both expansions.

>bought physical homm collection, 1-5+all expansions
>installer doesnt work
who else fell for the physical meme?

Who Clash of Heroes here

>that succubs in inferno campaign
ooooh baby

Then just pirate it, you faggot

REMINDER THAT UBISOFT IS OFFICIALLY BURRYING THE FRANCHISE

NOT BURRYING AS IN RELEASING SHIT RUSHED GAMES

LITERALLY BURRYING, ALONG SOME OTHER IPS, IN A VAIN ATTEMPT TO SAVE THEMSELVES FROM VIVENDI BUYOUT

MIGHT AND MAGIC NOW FACES THE SAME SITUATION IT DID 15 YEARS AGO WHEN 3DO WENT BELLY UP

EXCEPT THIS TIME IT PROBABLY WONT GET SOLD BECAUSE UBISOFT WOULD RATHER BURRY IT THAN SELL IT AND LET SOMEONE ELSE PROFIT

I CAN PROVIDE SOURCES FOR THIS CLAIMS IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DEBATE

HOMM7 IS THE LAST GAME IN M&M FRANCHISE

Didn't they also cancel Dark Messiah 2?

What am I looking at with those maps?

They did, few days ago.
It has been in the works for over a year now and they cancelled it along with all other unannounced projects they had.

Vivendi is going to rape Ubisoft so fucking hard, these are their last throes. They can't save themselves, they can only delay the inevitable.

Yeah, on one hand, I'm glad Ubisoft is getting fucked over.

But on the other, this is Vivendi we're talking about.

Like, one of those few companies that are actually even worse than Ubisoft.

Mandate of Heaven

this game any fun?

it look like shit from youtube videos

worth a pirate at least?

what the fuck is this mobile garbage

>III has not aged well
I still play III fairly regularly. The game is fucking awesome.

Does it even matter? They weren't producing good games to begin with nor were they using the setting, can't someone just go "oh lets make heroes 8" and just reuse all the mechanics and shit while building enough on it that it's not a complete ripoff but just a spiritual sequel? I don't even need for the towns to be the exact same, I would almost enjoy if they were switched up. They were generic enough that they could capture the feel anyway, "pointy hat wizard town", "good guy knight castle", "asshole demon party house", "gay elf village", "clickety clack bone zone" and so on aren't really that unique that you couldn't keep the feel with another redesign.

of course nobody is doing this shit to begin with, but there's always a small chance that someone will want to ruin their career by making a good video game

Vivendi won't touch M&M and if they will it will be just harmless mobileshit so I don't really care. I'm just glad that Ubisoft is going down. And some franchises are better off dead so new IPs can be made. M&M had plenty of games in both mainline and the HoMM spinoffs, it's time to give it the well deserved rest.

Seriously the concept of endless sequels is why modern vidya industry sucks.
H4 was prime example of a tacked on sequel where they really had no idea what to do next, same with it's tie-in M&M in form of M&M9.

Ubisoft was actually right to reboot the franchise with 5 since the old universe wrote itself into a corner.
And Ashan in H5 and Dark Messiah was actually executed well in my opinion, those two form cohesive overarching story with events of H5 and its expansions leading directly to Dark Messiah.
Clash of Heroes was this nice but very good and addictive simple prequel to 5 that gave some backstory to Godric and other characters who are old farts in H5.
H6 was a tacked on sequel that was completely detached from the story of H5 and Dark Messiah and went the same way as H4 where the had no fucking ideas what to do next so they changed and innovated too much for their own good. And its story is completely inconsequential to H5 and DM.
H7 is quite literally Ubisoft's equivalent of Heroes Chronicles. A slightly simplified version of H5 with unrelated stories set all over the timeline with no big relation to anything outside the Ivan epilogue. H7 is to H5 what HC was to H3, and mind you H5 is the Ubi parallel to H3.

Generally everything after Dark Messiah (with arguably the exception of Clash of Heroes) was entirely fucking pointless and tacked on.

H3 + HotA and H5.5 will forever be the pinnacle of the series.
At least until VCMI gets finished and merges HotA with WoG, then that will be the pinnacle but 5.5 will still be a solid alternative especially since its still being developed and having new features added.

IT'S BURY YOU DUMB NIGGER

If you made a direct clone it would give Ubisoft/Vivendi grounds to sue for copyright infringement unfortunately. And even if the case wouldn't hold, nobody is going to risk it since you'd need a ton of money to survive years of court battle and good luck fighting Vivendi on that front.

I'm not a native english speaker, fuck off autist.
Still, point taken.

wait, what do you mean hasn't aged well?
homm3 is still amazing.
care to explain how or why it hasn't "aged well"?

>H4 was prime example of a tacked on sequel where they really had no idea what to do next,
Yeah fuck off. They wanted to try something new instead or rehashing the same game since 1995 and while it didn't quite work out, I'm glad they did. HoMM 5 was already in the works at NWC when 3DO shut down and they were returning to something more similar to 3. M&M9 suffers from being pushed out the door far too early to try to save 3DO.

>III has not aged well

Heroes III continues to be, as it has been for nearly two decades, one of my favorite games of all time. The only way I can fathom why you don't like it is because you're one of those "ehhh... I don't like strategy turn based games" type of people.

>What is the current best Might & Magic game

That would be III, all others released after that have been a step down from it.

How would Morrowind and Might & Magic mashup would play like?

>yfw JVC buys the rights back

?????

Like Mandate of Heaven?
MM > TES

>Yeah fuck off. They wanted to try something new instead or rehashing the same game since 1995 and while it didn't quite work out, I'm glad they did.
No, they had non-existant budget and the game was rushed to hell, ex-NWC employees even confirmed as such.
The game was a clusterfuck of rushed ideas and 3DO demanding that they soft reboot the series for new audience.
Only 5 unit tiers, mixed towns, removed units, AI dumbed down to worse than H1 levels, ranged units attacking at the same time giving you absolutely 0 incentive to ever attack first and the list goes on.
H4 is a fucking failed mess.

They didn't even have time to include all the campaigns they planned to have in it and as such the H4 campaign storyline is LITERALLY UNFINISHED.
They only added those last two missing campaigns as free DLC in Heroes 7.

So no, you're wrong about H4 not being pushed out the door as 3DO's attempt to save itself.
Chronicles, H4 and M&M9 were all rushed shitfests that resulted from 3DO suits and their decisions.

Oh and don't even get me started on H4 literally using STOCK MUSIC.

Are M&M RPG games actually well done? It always felt like cheap shovelware to me, is there good writing and character progression etc. ?

Mostly: is the combat actually good?

H4 using stock music? I liked city themes, grass, sea, dirt themes and combat themes? What's wrong with it?

ofc it was unfinished and rushed, but people imho give it too much hate

with more $ and more time it would be propably pretty good

>
Oh and don't even get me started on H4 literally using STOCK MUSIC.

because all the music money was spent on those two tracks
youtube.com/watch?v=lrLCLfoxKb4
youtube.com/watch?v=7jSCbUKBqsI

and it was effin worth it

>it's a TBS we're talking about.
yes, so is every entry in HoMM
what kind of argument is this supposed to be?
it's not like TBS has changed significantly recently.

>cheap shovelware
nigger
Heroes is the spinoff series while M&M has brrn around since the '80s. They're solid RPGs with MM6 being my favorite RPG of all time.

it's alright
it's match-3, but it's executed fairly well imo

The music in H4 is entirely stock samples simply slightly remixed by Romero.
Stock as in generic music that anyone can buy from stock services. Such as TV station jingles etc, those are examples of stock music. Entirety of H4 soundtrack is stock music from some celtic inspired stock music album.

H4 being decent as a game still doesn't make it a good HoMM game. It's like people defending DmC saying that it's a good game in its own right (it is really) but shit as DmC.
If it's a shit entry to the series, it shouldn't carry the name of the series.
They should've changed the name to go with the soft-reboot nature of H4.

I want a mod for heroes 3 that let's me play the soundtrack to heroes 4 over it

youtube.com/watch?v=obK-k848Vto

There's is not a single bad track on this OST

Kek good image frend

4 had something going but they certainly made really questionable choices

Well that's just like your opinion man

>trust Sup Forums
>install heroes 5 and 5.5 mod
>start playing
>horrible campaign story
>horrible dialogues
>cliched as fuck

why did you do this to me?

>campaign
Why are you playing them?
Skirmish is where its at.
5.5 doesn't change the story, it vastly overhauls the gameplay including rewriting the AI from scratch.

Why do i always get the "do you want to change this dwelling to your side fo X money wood and ore? and when i click ok nothing happens.
Fucking annoying as fuck.

Also skirmish games are soulless. and i hate the game when it becomes about running around stealing mines and shit and the retarded caravans you make out of heroes transporting units across the map.

Which heroes has the best written campaign lads?

2

What map are you guys playing?

>implying 2d art isn't superior to 3d modelling

i love IV ):