The ESRB has always been reasonable about this shit. It's why I always hate when publishers/developers censor things and then throw the ESRB under the bus because "boohoo they're totally going to come down hard on us".
>NISA, Atlus, NoA They aren't even the ones that make this argument, it's mostly idiots on the internet that defend them. They mostly just make vague statements about it and leave it to their fanboys to elaborate and make up crap.
Jaxon Brooks
>it's mostly idiots on the internet that defend them >mostly idiots on the internet
I'm certain that idiots on the internet are to blame for most of the redundant bullshit, infographics and repeating threads that get people comfortable without researching shit about what they are reading.
William Peterson
NISA and Atlus both specifically claimed they had to censor Criminal Girls and Dungeon Travellers 2 to get them through the ratings boards.
Robert Gonzalez
>Game with actual explicit sex scenes can pass through the ESRB just fine >"N-No really guys, our comparatively tame panty quests would be AO!"
Levi Barnes
I agree. They make some weird decisions sometimes but they have let pretty extreme stuff before. Most AO games are straight up porn or extreme gorefests and a lot of them actually aimed at the clasification for publicity. If a company sits down with them I don't see any reason for them to refuse to give non porn fanservice games the M tag.
Landon Allen
they better make a PC version or RIOT
Carter Thomas
why aren't porn games allowed on consoles again? PC doesn't give a shit but consoles go apeshit even if you can literally use the internal browser to watch fucking porn on it, what's the deal
Ryder Moore
Soccer moms
Isaac Cox
consoles are still marketed to under 18 shitters. Porn on consoles would make lazy parents riot
Camden Campbell
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Ayden Cruz
Did that ridiculous free-roaming upskirt photography game for PS4 ever get localized too? I forgot the name..
Andrew Evans
Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft all dole out licenses to publish on their hardware. They all have a rule which requires an ESRB rating under AO. PC doesn't give a shit because PC is an open platform where you don't have to pass an inspection to release something.
Brandon James
>rockstar has shown nipples and thrusting in multiple >rated m
Anyone who ever believed that the esbr was the culprit are the gullible ones they're selling to.
Jackson Mitchell
>shipped It will probably be another disappointment like DoAX3, I need to stop buying games and buy more figs.
Matthew Mitchell
No. Also, it was supposedly hard as balls because the players had to figure out everything on their own with essentially no hints..
Jack Kelly
>don't have SJWs and cucks in your company >suddenly no problems localizing
Mason Lewis
>pandering to gators PQube sure knows how to make games sell
William Lopez
>gators
Gabriel Myers
I'll reserve judgement until they release S;G0 and not butcher the script
Kevin Harris
In FEAR 2, a naked woman rides you while you fight a dream - magic battle. You can't see it all though.
Liam Ward
Stuff like this makes me wonder if they actually tried to pass shit uncensored or if they straight up went with cuts before submitting. The NoA case is more blatant since their censored games weren't even that risky
Alexander Myers
Summertime High School. A Young Man’s Notes – How a New Exchange Student Like Myself Ran Into His Childhood Friend On The School Tour, Then For Some Reason Became Super-Popular With The Girls For His Daily Scoops On The School Photography Club Even Though He Only Takes Panty Shots, And What He Thinks As He Goes On Dates During His Summer Of Island School Life.
I don't think anyone could accurately remember the whole title.
Carter Jones
NISA didn't bother submitting it to the ratings board before hand, just applied their subjective standards.
Cooper Jackson
NISA made a big explanation post after announcing CG2 where they confirmed that they don't submit to ratings boards before making the changes because that would cost them money if they had to submit it again and they're not willing to spend that. Atlus also don't submit shit first either, they said regarding DT2 that they "consulted with a member of the board" about it and made changes based on that.
Of course if they actually did submit it it'd go through fine, but why let that stop them from imposing the changes they themselves want to make?
Caleb Baker
Natsuiro High School?
That won't get localized. Actually bought the Japanese version recently since I've decided to start learning Moon.
Easton Phillips
Well Atlus got told that they had to do something about the four CGs when they submitted the game
Adam Wood
I think it's pretty obvious they just decided shit on their own.
Connor Richardson
>when they submitted the game They never did this.
Nathaniel Johnson
It shouldn't get localized for being absolute garbage
Juan Perry
One of the employees said 5pb or Mages is doing the translation.
Isaiah Phillips
Consoles were made closed platforms where the platform creator has to endorse every game released because when anyone could release any piece of crap and get it shelf space the market was flooded with so much absolute dog shit it sank the industry.
As such because they take that responsibility they also self regulate themselves when it comes to content so some pissed off cunt can't successfully lobby the government to ban anything remotely violent or suggestive.
Cameron Kelly
Oh yeah, they made consultations. I'd say that's still being told something.
Hudson Howard
Being unofficially told something by some person who is not named and probably doesn't exist, along with the supposed conversations.
Jack Allen
It looked quite fun when they we're fucking around with it on Tokyo Encounter...
Aiden Turner
That doesn't sound reassuring
Carter King
Well NISA submitted CG2 to the German board and they denied it even though they censored it while GalGun made it through the German board even though it was uncensored so I don't think a blanket statement of "of course it'd go through fine" really works.
Joshua Morgan
Is every episode subbed yet?
Aaron Sullivan
was their release of the first game butchered?
Nathan Torres
I read that as >all panties involved
Kevin Hernandez
Referring to the ESRB. Censoring the game for the entire world because one area (Germany) might not accept it is also bullshit. Idea Factory International did the right thing with Labyrinth of Death: They left it uncensored and when Australia refused it they said "well that sucks, guess you guys will have to import it" instead of censoring it.
Adrian Cruz
JAST localized the first game
Noah Gomez
IF respect +1
Though in a more ideal world, everybody would tell Australia to go fuck themselves.
Liam Lee
It has never been about SJW
It has been, is, and probably always will be about money and publicity.
If the ESRB says a game is okay and it still gets censored that is likely the result of a company being concerned about their bottom line. Afraid that if they release the game and it causes an outcry that leads to bad publicity that may lead to retailers and such suddenly deciding they don't want to be affiliated with that company anymore.
The post from above about NISA not having the money to submit something multiple times also kind of proves the above point. Alternatively it's a case of these companies being too niche.
I'll admit though that censoring the shackles and voice acting in one scene of Criminal Girls 2 that I saw didn't seem to do anything about the fact that you're hitting two girls all over their bodies with a riding crop. In fact the lack of pleasure in their voice arguably makes it appear worse to the average person, as if the girls know to just lay there and take it without making a noise.
But the next episode airs in japan tomorrow though (no idea how long they take for subbing once the raw is out..)!
Andrew Reed
Oh gotcha, thought you just meant a blanket statement in general. I think for these games they should just assume that it'll be banned in Germany and Australia, but if it gets through then it's a happy surprise. I still don't understand what the Australia's rating's board problem with MeiQ is though. That really makes no sense to me but whatever.
Gabriel Harris
>They left it uncensored and when Australia refused it they said "well that sucks, guess you guys will have to import it" instead of censoring it. Wait, really?
Holy shit, I didn't there was a publisher out there with balls.
Luis Lee
As far as I am aware there are physical copies in some German electronic store, I think mediamarkt
William Cox
>Summertime High School. A Young Man’s Notes – How a New Exchange Student Like Myself Ran Into His Childhood Friend On The School Tour, Then For Some Reason Became Super-Popular With The Girls For His Daily Scoops On The School Photography Club Even Though He Only Takes Panty Shots, And What He Thinks As He Goes On Dates During His Summer Of Island School Life What the actual fuck
Wyatt Brown
how is that ballsy when they can't release the game in Australia
Nolan Allen
If NISA don't have any money to rate the game, how the fuck do they have money to even localiz- I mean, censor it in the first place?
Carson Ward
b a s e d
do your duty weebs, buy gal gun for a censor-free future
Jonathan Ramirez
It's not that they don't have the money. It's just that they don't want to waste it doing multiple submissions. Why would anyone want to drive up localization costs like that?
Caleb Wilson
>we want a family friendly image even though the people buying this are overwhelmingly teenage or twentysomething khv
Jaxson Baker
don't forget to buy DLC to get a boob slider
Ayden Turner
Multiple? They'd only need to do it twice.
A pre-rating after doing everything to see if it's okay, then a second when the ERSB tells them (read: they wouldn't) to edit shit.
Jason Mitchell
>They'd only need to do it twice. This is NISA we're talking about
Angel Cox
The Australian ratings board is generally a problem of the submission process rather than what content is within. Atelier Totori is the perfect example with the infamous HIGH IMPACT SEXUAL VIOLENCE debacle.
The Australian board requires submissions to be in the form of a paper that summarises the game and provides an outline of any objectionable content in each category (violence, drugs, etc.), with script excerpts where applicable. Anyone who actually played Atelier Totori knows that the Legendary Drunkard scene is some lighthearted comedy, but if you strip away the voice acting, music, CG, and sound effects, and you're just left with the script for the scene, it sounds significantly worse. And that's how Totori ended up being rated R18+ in Australia for high level sexual content and violence.
If publishers want to appeal these decisions they can do so and in that case they'll go in to provide a presentation and explain why the rating should be revised, and had KT done so with Totori it undoubtedly would have been dropped down to a PG. The problem is that the appeal costs money when the Australian ratings board is already notoriously expensive, so few publishers have ever bothered. IFI likely could get MeiQ's rating lowered if they appealed it, but they're reasonably not willing to invest in such a small market.
People need to understand that the Australian ratings board is severely flawed, but not out of some vendetta against sexual content as is often said.
Isaac Gomez
I still say vidya are too good the likes of those uncultured people who call themselves Australians.
Luke Clark
>HIGH IMPACT SEXUAL VIOLENCE It will always make me kek.
Aaron Foster
>Implying rabid weebs wouldn't eat this shit up
Christian Nguyen
Holy shit, finally. I stopped watching because I hated seeing them out of order. Time for a marathon.
Daniel Brooks
They're just trying to exploit the people who are really desperate for this stuff, what's wrong with that?
Jaxon Scott
Because they didn't censor it to appease them, idiot.
Anthony Cox
I wonder which slider sells more in each region.
Noah Harris
Just makes it harder to take them seriously, is all
Lucas Collins
Haha, I just did the same last week. I didn't realize that the stupid livejournal page actually got edited all the time so I thought the last episode was from 2012. Then I scrolled through by accident while cleaning my bookmarks and found a whole season I had not seen...
Best show ever!
Nathaniel Jenkins
Look at it this way: They know that only really desperate faggots would buy DLC like that, so they jacked the prices as a test to see if they'd actually buy it.
Jace Torres
You can't submit a game until it's already done. So it's done at the very end of your localization so if it comes out too high then you just screwed up your timeline since you need to change stuff, get it re-certified, schedule production at a later date, etc, all of which will drive up costs.
That scene was in Vanilla Totori too so it makes even less sense to me. Thanks for the answer though user.
Ayden Clark
Atlas has only agreed with censorship over TMS. Have you never seen the demon designs in SMT? I do agree on the rest though. Especially NoA.
Michael Edwards
What kind of fucking retard scheduled production before it gets rat- oh, right, NISA.
Hudson Bell
>That scene was in Vanilla Totori too so it makes even less sense to me. That's just a matter of different people at different times. The board has a group of some 20 people from different backgrounds at any time and for each submission four or five of them are randomly picked to discuss and decide on a rating. This is the big reason for the board's perceived inconsistency.
Aiden Wilson
First game in english when and does anyone have a OST rip of Double Peace?
Christopher Mitchell
Never, yes
Camden Hill
Never Too old and it's on PS3/360 Maybe if they ported it on PS4
Brayden Wood
Fuck okay then
gimme please
Josiah Richardson
I think PCube said they would if there was enough demand for it.
I might be wrong, though.
Matthew Harris
>Loli Aoi Oh my, would probably play a Vita version but maybe not because it would feel less polished and lacking in content compared to Double Peace.