>The most powerful weapons man has ever made
>Advanced and sophisticated, unlike primitive chemical based ballistics
>Not weakshit like those shitty red flash lights
>Turns EVERYTHING into fucking goo
>Realistically should be vaporizing city blocks with the energy it produces
>Plasma is green, which is the color of Fallout
>The definitive weapon of the franchise
How can Guncucks and Laseretards even compete?
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Plasma is for fags
No u
Assblasted laserfag detected. Plasma is the fire of the gods.
Too bad the projectule is slow as fuck and you can literally dodge each plasma bolt unlike a milisecond laser beam.
>Being so bad at games you literally need a lightspeed projectile to even hit anything
Laser and Plasma is the same skill so why would you use one over the other?
>Use something so slow you can play a complete game of chess before the green wad of shit moves halfway across the map and eventually misses by moving two inches to the right
Faggot.
What a faggot. Laser rifle is always better.
Plasma weapons are dogshit in Fallout and will never be viable IRL. The main issue with them in Fallout 3/NV is the low projectile speed, because accelerating conductive stuff via magnetic fields is inefficient as fuck (yes, even IRL meme naval railguns waste a humongous amount of energy in the form of useless produced heat). For every plasma bolt you miss due to low projectile speed, I can land a high-velocity bullet in your head.
The other issue with plasma weaponry ever being relevant IRL is the containment of the traveling plasma bolt. Since gasses tend to expand in general and heated gasses tend to expand fast as FUCK, the magnetic field will need to contain the bolt for the duration of the whole flight in order for your bolt to maintain any sort useful shape. In practical terms, this means that you will need to fire a SOURCE OF MAGNETIC FIELD ALONG WITH THE BOLT, because you cannot just expect to prevent the plasma bolt from expanding and losing its shape by a single source of magnetic field situated in your weapon.
TL;DR: plasma weapons are meme dogshit..
>Literally being THIS bad at the game
>Even in Fallout 1 and 2 Plasma was pretty much objectively better as well
Fucking lasercucks holy shit
>2204
>using weapons at all
My problem is that mutants are so high DR after easy that either they don't ever die or die to anything
It's a bad system if these are my choices
wow
a fictional weapon isn't real in real life
good job figuring that out homie
Your the reason why i brush my teeth.
>being this much of a BoS fanboy
>a fictional weapon isn't real in real life and is also shit in fiction
Fixed that for you.
I didn't need t see that things face...that shit is something to give the Master nightmares.
> powder-propelled projectiles
> concentrated red light
> slow-ass hot energy ball
Railguns are the best, ovbiously. I'd like to see you resist an impact delivering an absurdly high ammount of kinetic energy, no matter what kind of protection you're wearing.
Truly, railguns are the best weapons to exist.
Except in fiction you can just make it not shit, like how they did in Fallout
>Institute is supposed to be super advanced
>Institute energy weapons are strictly inferior to energy weapons developed 200 years ago
If fallout was online, I'd happily sniper people with my laser rifle as they walked near the building that was my town.
But just imagine it, Fallout new vegas was suppose to be co op with early bits of code still hidden in the games code today.
Walking around the game, using those skills to help you and your mates into a building..
40K style lore, it gets more powerful with time.
Also institute weapons are fucking YUGE. Did they forget to scale it down? The shit takes 75% of the god damn screen. Fuck Bethesda can't do anything right. And it's a shame because the Institute rifle has my favorite blue color beam.
Nick Bate is in jail for dental abuse
Also being a shit eating pedo
Stop. Posting. It. That fucking freak should stay forgotten in jail.
>Primitive superheated gas technology
>Not killing enemies with hyper advanced hard light
Holorifle best
I'd like to see you fire a "portable" railgun that shoots bullets at velocities, comparable to those of rifle bullets, and doesn't incinerate you on the spot.
Even those naval railguns are dogshit and are literally reduced to coastal artillery/support of your troops on the coast role, because they lack range. A combination of traditional chemical propellant/electrothermal chemical propulsion guns and missiles is the best and none of your shitty meme weapons will ever be able to challenge it.
Except it's shit in Fallout as well. And no, turn based games don't count, because projectile velocity doesn't matter in these games.
Well then, I'd like to see you fire an actual portable plasma cannon, if we're dragging this discussion into the reality realm. I doubt "plasma" or even lasers are used in any lethal way today. Lasers aren't used in offensive domains, excepted for aiming and defense against guided missiles.
There is a real laser sniper rifle, but I don't think it went beyond proof of concept.
>I'd like to see you fire an actual portable plasma cannon
I don't need to, because I can fire my regular chemical propulsion cannon/rifle and it will be superior by a simple virtue of not being a retarded design.
>Fallout will never have "modern" guns like Pancor Jackhammers, H&K CAWS, FAMAS, P90s, FN FALs, etc
T-thanks Bethesda. I sure do love this WW1 machine gun that was horribly mutated into an assault rifle 300 fucking years later.
FUCK!
All the good shit at the Gun Runners is expensive as fuck.
How am I supposed to afford all that sweet sweet dakka?
>I sure do love this WW1 machine gun that was horribly mutated into an assault rifle 300 fucking years later.
Hey, so do I! It's really aesthetic and gives the whole production an otherworldly feel, while at the same time anchoring it in a tiny fraction of reality, so I can feel like it might be real.
I'm happy to've met somebody else who really likes the way they design guns.
Get the gold from the sierra madre
1. Loot good, partially broken guns from the corpses of your enemies.
2. Repair them.
3. Sell them to buy better guns.
That's a DLC right?
How early should I do those anyway?
I'm currently lvl 16 and doing random (non-story) quests around that new vegas area.
I heard that guns are shit in FO4. They don't work realistically or feel cool.
If you're talking about NV, you literally can't run out of money. Get jury rigging and Them's good Eatin'
You can do Honest Hearts or Old World Blues at that level.
Go when level 22 or 24. Also the gold bars are heavy as fuck. You'll only be able to carry 4 max without cheats and you leave completely naked.
>Get jury rigging and Them's good Eatin'
Useless perks. Just useless.
>How can Guncucks and Laseretards even compete?
Availability. What are you going to use to kill things before you get a plasma weapon in mid to late game?
It's not impossible to get all the gold. I got all the bars in the end by just pressing up against the forcefield that Elijah comes through. I fell through it when he switched it off for a second. Elijah was then destroyed by a bunch of mines I left behind and the turrets that Christina hacked for me.
>being able to repair your high class equipment with any crap
>useless
ok
>not punching everything to death with your bare hands
You gay son?
I did that, except Elijah didn't die and then I was stuck there holding all the gold and the elevator wouldn't open.
Do people seriously think projectile speed matters in Fallout or are these just hardcore memers?
>Blow elijah into bloody chunks
>Put the gold on his body
>throw a chunk over the force-field
>run like heck
>grab the gold off the chunk near the exit
>???
>Profit
Ghouls have a tendency to dodge in fallout 4 but other than that it doesn't really matter unless you're trying to snipe.
If you're playing a mad scientisty type character that's acceptable. Otherwise, I'll stick with my shotguns.
Ghouls in fallout 4 fucking piss me off to no end. The eay they throw themselves on you or how they irratically drop to the ground side to side while sprinting and make you waste anmo infuriates me and I always make sure to turn them into fucking piles of gore or ash because feral ghouls are fucking cunts.
Lets be honest. Here, I'll go first.
Plasma weapons suck.
Don't know if it's just me but they always seem to cause fps drops too.
VATS?
I always let codsworth cut them up before blowing their brains out with a shotgun.
Vat's is a waste on Ghouls, it's just fucking ANNOYING that they keep dodging bullets just STOP FUCKING MOVING YOU PIECE OF SHIT! And then they fucking throw themselves onto you and you take unwanted fucking radiation damage.
Don't even start me on the legendaries and glowing ones.
>shotguns
Clearing Vault 34 with my riot shotgun and lever shotgun felt so good.
Too bad I ran out of ammo near the end and died of radiation.
Just shoot them in the legs with a shotgun, dude
I filled a street with flailing, legless ghouls who couldn't do shit
Fallout's guns are so ugly. God they are so ugly.
I always aim for the chest and head though. It's a force of habit. It's just infuriating that the ghouls duck whwn you shoot with automatic guns. Like how the fuck do they know to do that when they have the minds of animals?
>huge ass plasma gun
>most effective way to use it is crawling around and shooting people in the back of the head
bethesda really needs to do something about this stealth archer shit
The word you might be looking for is "brutalistic." There is an overbuilt weightiness to them, which fits the aesthetic of the series quite well. Look at any Soviet-era space craft. Yes, Bethesda did get some things right.
No, the guns are just bad.
They need to stop making terrible AIs and nerf the benefits stealth builds receive, but they never will
>And no, turn based games don't count
>The real Fallouts don't count
Fuck off. Also projectile speed don't matter in 3D either because you can just VATS everyone in it.
Both wrong, they need to ditch the engine or at least re-do how NPCs move around the world.
It's so fucking dumb that everything can run top speed and instantly change direction at full momentum with their stiff animation, so every enemy is a janky ass target darting all over the place
fake and gay
>plasma
Travels 300 m/s
>average rifle
travels 715 m/s
>Laser
travels 1000000000000000000000000000m/s
> god this game is so hard i wish it wasnt
I'd like to see you use a fucking plasma weapon, kek.
Fallout ain't realistic user.
Lasers travel at the sped of light you dumbass.
Red lasers go faster.
And you get this info where
>defending bethesda's incompetence
you forgot your image todd
kek metres is a measurement you retard, light speed = 299799999.998783 m/s
Dumb fucking niggers
the best gun is the Blade Runner gun
Enjoy your goo piles that can never be removed from the game ever if you play on survival. Don't play on survival? Great. Now you get to open the console and ctrl v every time you kill anything and paste markfordelete each and every time. Don't want to? Enjoy a world whose entire ground surface is green.
Because Bethesda never programed a way for them to be automatically cleaned up like other corpses and it's been like this for 10 years.
IT
JUST
WORKS
>revisiting previously explored areas
Why?
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Fallout 2 has all those weapons, kiddie
i think he was implying that we won't ever see those guns in another fallout game as long as beth has the ip